RE: Megane Trophy-R = £72k
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kmpowell said:
Good video - worth the watchkmpowell said:
Great video and does a good job comparing it back to back with the R26.R. Thanks for sharing that.SarGara said:
kmpowell said:
Great video and does a good job comparing it back to back with the R26.R. Thanks for sharing that.50k for a low volume car that's a lot faster round the ring than a similarly priced RS3 / A45 but will be vastly more fun to drive
72k with carbon rims and brakes seams about right, but as harry said they only expect to sell 2 of those with 1 being the demo
i would still pick the R26R thou
anonymous said:
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I doubt the Meg is going to suffer any depreciation; as per Harry's video a mint R26.R is the same price now as it was when it first released. The Trophy-R is a halo car that will suffer maybe single-digit depreciation at most. Also the only reason you need the rear doors on the Megane is so you can store away the £18k worth of CF wheels.
slowcars1 said:
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What makes you think the Megane will depreciate to 25K considering only 2 will make it to the U.K?Love the ignorance!
HTP99 said:
slowcars1 said:
anonymous said:
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What makes you think the Megane will depreciate to 25K considering only 2 will make it to the U.K?Love the ignorance!
I know part of the answer is going to be 'crumple zones' / NCAP.
But...I really don't see why 1,300kg for something with only 2 seats and an I-4 is anything to be proud of!
The (normal) Megane Trophy is a 5-door C-segment hot hatch, fwd with a turbo'd I-4 motor delivering 276bhp and 0-60 in sub-6s. 5 seats and just under 400 litres of boot space - practical but not huge. Yet it comes in at +/- 1,420kg as standard.
Wind back 10 years and Honda Japan were selling a pretty-comparable car - a 4-door C/D-segment hot small-saloon, with an I-4 motor driving the front wheels putting out 230bhp (naturally aspirated) and 0-60 of under 6.5s. So slightly down on performance but pretty much on-the-money for it's time, and nothing a small blower wouldn't fix handsomely. Oh, and it had 4 genuinely adult seats and a larger (c.450 litres) boot. And it weighed 1,270kg. As standard. Despite being 170mm longer / 100mm narrower. And cost £23k imported at the time. (inflation-adjusted £27.5k now, so call it sub-£35k after allowing for exchange rates to screw us over)
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/spotted/honda-civ...
...so how the fk have Renault, previously renowned for lightweight hatches, managed to :-
(a) create something as lardy as a VW, and
(b) dared make such a fuss about stripping it back and fitting carbon goodies so it's still heavier than a stock FD2 Civic Type R which has its rear seats intact and doesn't have carbon anything?!?
Don't get me wrong - I love that they've gone and done it again. I just think they've turned it into a marketing exercise more than something they were serious about from the start.
But...I really don't see why 1,300kg for something with only 2 seats and an I-4 is anything to be proud of!
The (normal) Megane Trophy is a 5-door C-segment hot hatch, fwd with a turbo'd I-4 motor delivering 276bhp and 0-60 in sub-6s. 5 seats and just under 400 litres of boot space - practical but not huge. Yet it comes in at +/- 1,420kg as standard.
Wind back 10 years and Honda Japan were selling a pretty-comparable car - a 4-door C/D-segment hot small-saloon, with an I-4 motor driving the front wheels putting out 230bhp (naturally aspirated) and 0-60 of under 6.5s. So slightly down on performance but pretty much on-the-money for it's time, and nothing a small blower wouldn't fix handsomely. Oh, and it had 4 genuinely adult seats and a larger (c.450 litres) boot. And it weighed 1,270kg. As standard. Despite being 170mm longer / 100mm narrower. And cost £23k imported at the time. (inflation-adjusted £27.5k now, so call it sub-£35k after allowing for exchange rates to screw us over)
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/spotted/honda-civ...
...so how the fk have Renault, previously renowned for lightweight hatches, managed to :-
(a) create something as lardy as a VW, and
(b) dared make such a fuss about stripping it back and fitting carbon goodies so it's still heavier than a stock FD2 Civic Type R which has its rear seats intact and doesn't have carbon anything?!?
Don't get me wrong - I love that they've gone and done it again. I just think they've turned it into a marketing exercise more than something they were serious about from the start.
Same reason as every other company , the regs they have to follow .
Look at the clio 172 cup from the 2000's , no abs , thinner glass , lighter seats all to get the weight down and improve the performance without doing any more to the engine .
Can you imagine a company now releasing a car with no abs , we're in a different era .
Look at the clio 172 cup from the 2000's , no abs , thinner glass , lighter seats all to get the weight down and improve the performance without doing any more to the engine .
Can you imagine a company now releasing a car with no abs , we're in a different era .
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