RE: Megane Trophy-R = £72k

RE: Megane Trophy-R = £72k

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terryb

976 posts

244 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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kmpowell said:
Harry’s just put this live...

https://youtu.be/k4wmG59E1y0

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Good video - worth the watch

ZX10R NIN

27,598 posts

125 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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That exhaust note on the R26 R is great.

terryb

976 posts

244 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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Top Gear test at Portimao vs 718 GT4

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/tg24-2019/tg24-po...

SarGara

365 posts

176 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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kmpowell said:
Harry’s just put this live...

https://youtu.be/k4wmG59E1y0

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Great video and does a good job comparing it back to back with the R26.R. Thanks for sharing that.

Dave Hedgehog

14,550 posts

204 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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SarGara said:
kmpowell said:
Harry’s just put this live...

https://youtu.be/k4wmG59E1y0

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Great video and does a good job comparing it back to back with the R26.R. Thanks for sharing that.
enjoyed it alot, and the price kinda makes sense

50k for a low volume car that's a lot faster round the ring than a similarly priced RS3 / A45 but will be vastly more fun to drive

72k with carbon rims and brakes seams about right, but as harry said they only expect to sell 2 of those with 1 being the demo

i would still pick the R26R thou

parabolica

6,715 posts

184 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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anonymous said:
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I doubt the Meg is going to suffer any depreciation; as per Harry's video a mint R26.R is the same price now as it was when it first released. The Trophy-R is a halo car that will suffer maybe single-digit depreciation at most.

Also the only reason you need the rear doors on the Megane is so you can store away the £18k worth of CF wheels.

epom

11,513 posts

161 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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anonymous said:
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Maybe you might not want a GT4 ??

egor110

16,860 posts

203 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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slowcars1 said:
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What makes you think the Megane will depreciate to 25K considering only 2 will make it to the U.K?
The old r26 still sells almost for what it cost new .

HTP99

22,546 posts

140 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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slowcars1 said:
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What makes you think the Megane will depreciate to 25K considering only 2 will make it to the U.K?
Because it's a Renault and French so is bound to depreciate heavily, just look at the Clio V6 and R26R.......... errr maybe not.

Love the ignorance!

Leins

9,467 posts

148 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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anonymous said:
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What if you’ve already got a garage full of rare performance cars, and just want to add the most hardcore hot hatch on the market to it?

Although if I could get a fully specced one of these for £25k in three years I’d be delighted

egor110

16,860 posts

203 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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HTP99 said:
slowcars1 said:
anonymous said:
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What makes you think the Megane will depreciate to 25K considering only 2 will make it to the U.K?
Because it's a Renault and French so is bound to depreciate heavily, just look at the Clio V6 and R26R.......... errr maybe not.

Love the ignorance!
People are just pissed that a chav as fk renault is able to be that good wink



egor110

16,860 posts

203 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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anonymous said:
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if you needed 4 doors why look at the meg ?


corozin

2,680 posts

271 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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That is a shedload of money for any Renault, no matter how good it proclaims to be.

nickfrog

21,140 posts

217 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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corozin said:
That is a shedload of money for any Renault, no matter how good it proclaims to be.
That's very true if badge rather than function is of prime importance to you. Nothing wrong with that BTW but just remember that different people have different priorities.

egor110

16,860 posts

203 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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anonymous said:
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For someone who doesn't give a flying fk why bother replying ?

130R

6,810 posts

206 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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slowcars1 said:
anonymous said:
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What makes you think the Megane will depreciate to 25K considering only 2 will make it to the U.K?
And only 32 in that spec in the world. So the idea that they will be 25K in 3 years is laughable.

nickfrog

21,140 posts

217 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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anonymous said:
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Can you get a new GT4 for £50k with a track use friendly warranty?

havoc

30,062 posts

235 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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I know part of the answer is going to be 'crumple zones' / NCAP.

But...I really don't see why 1,300kg for something with only 2 seats and an I-4 is anything to be proud of!



The (normal) Megane Trophy is a 5-door C-segment hot hatch, fwd with a turbo'd I-4 motor delivering 276bhp and 0-60 in sub-6s. 5 seats and just under 400 litres of boot space - practical but not huge. Yet it comes in at +/- 1,420kg as standard.

Wind back 10 years and Honda Japan were selling a pretty-comparable car - a 4-door C/D-segment hot small-saloon, with an I-4 motor driving the front wheels putting out 230bhp (naturally aspirated) and 0-60 of under 6.5s. So slightly down on performance but pretty much on-the-money for it's time, and nothing a small blower wouldn't fix handsomely. Oh, and it had 4 genuinely adult seats and a larger (c.450 litres) boot. And it weighed 1,270kg. As standard. Despite being 170mm longer / 100mm narrower. And cost £23k imported at the time. (inflation-adjusted £27.5k now, so call it sub-£35k after allowing for exchange rates to screw us over)

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/spotted/honda-civ...


...so how the fk have Renault, previously renowned for lightweight hatches, managed to :-
(a) create something as lardy as a VW, and
(b) dared make such a fuss about stripping it back and fitting carbon goodies so it's still heavier than a stock FD2 Civic Type R which has its rear seats intact and doesn't have carbon anything?!?



Don't get me wrong - I love that they've gone and done it again. I just think they've turned it into a marketing exercise more than something they were serious about from the start.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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anonymous said:
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Can you rewrite in English please?

egor110

16,860 posts

203 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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Same reason as every other company , the regs they have to follow .

Look at the clio 172 cup from the 2000's , no abs , thinner glass , lighter seats all to get the weight down and improve the performance without doing any more to the engine .

Can you imagine a company now releasing a car with no abs , we're in a different era .