RE: Renaultsport Clio V6 | Spotted
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WCZ said:
how much can they be tuned? can you make them properly fast and handle nicely?
Not sure you can. Have a superchips map on mine, but I’m not sure that makes much difference (I bought it with it on years ago). Never heard of one being heavily tuned. The Mk2 handles fine. It’s actually pretty difficult to get the rear moving under power, but much easier lifting off - which is a no no on a rear engined car, especially when the engine is relatively high up.
dom9 said:
Is that a 924 Carrera GT/GTS? Low miles and £40k? Found one here: https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1139250
You'd be a special kind of fool to import one from Australia....WCZ said:
how much can they be tuned? can you make them properly fast and handle nicely?
There was a supercharged one on YouTube a long time ago. Not sure what ever happened to or how much power it made etc. https://youtu.be/zZvcQ27aWmw
Phase 1s weren't built by Renault , TWR built them and did an appalling job. Badly fitted bodykits, dynamically awful and worse than anything built in Dieppe in the last 40 years. Hence Renault took them back in house for the Phase 2 and made loads of changes. Phase 2s are a much nicer car, need leather and Recaros to lift the cabin though. Look and sound great and I get the sense of occasion thing but there are so much better cars out there at 30-40k.
blade7 said:
You'd be a special kind of fool to import one from Australia....
Yeah, silly me. How about this one? Looks lovely, local to me too!https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Only ~10x the mileage and £30k more than the car being discussed.
Notanotherturbo said:
Phase 1s weren't built by Renault , TWR built them and did an appalling job. Badly fitted bodykits, dynamically awful and worse than anything built in Dieppe in the last 40 years. Hence Renault took them back in house for the Phase 2 and made loads of changes. Phase 2s are a much nicer car, need leather and Recaros to lift the cabin though. Look and sound great and I get the sense of occasion thing but there are so much better cars out there at 30-40k.
Not all Phase 1s were created equal. Cars such as my old Illiad had some Phase 2 parts e.g. subframe, from the factory as the 'colour' cars were very late builds.Better cars? Plenty! Porsche Boxster for £5k? Mid engine, 6-cyl, badge, handling, etc - it's 'better'. I don't think you buy these because they're better than anything, really. It's the X factor and as our special friend has shown; you'd be hard pushed to pay less for something more special.
Sticking to the Porsche theme - look at what is being asked for a Cayman R because they are so 'special' (vs a 'standard', equivalent 987).
I simply couldn't work out what to replace my first one with. I wanted to keep a hot hatch and looked at 205 GTis, Clio Williams, etc but the real value is in the V6. What would be asked for a less than 5k mile 205 GTi/Williams... probably ~£40kish?
There's just nothing quite like a V6. They really get under your skin. I'd love to try an R5T2 but the entry point is way, way higher.
I think the wayward handling comments is just forum spaff from people who've never driven one. As an aside, when I had my R26.R I remember having a great TF tussle with a lunar grey (I think) swiss registered one for a whole lap. Now I could peddle my car a bit back then, around 8:15 BTG and this thing was with me all the way.
Whenever I've driven them they've always felt completely fine, if you can handle a 911 for instance one of these will be no problem.
Still wish I'd bought one..
Whenever I've driven them they've always felt completely fine, if you can handle a 911 for instance one of these will be no problem.
Still wish I'd bought one..
dom9 said:
blade7 said:
You'd be a special kind of fool to import one from Australia....
Yeah, silly me. How about this one? Looks lovely, local to me too!https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
ukaskew said:
They said that at £20k, and £25k, and £30k.
I was offered a decent Ph1 for £9k once upon a time, decided it was too risky for such an impractical car!
Also funny to think that a bunch of us use to abuse these on an airfield in Devon every few months, we had 7 or 8 lined up once along with the 172s.
This 30k mile Phase 2 model went for £34k at auction on Saturday. It was black with a gold fleck in it.I was offered a decent Ph1 for £9k once upon a time, decided it was too risky for such an impractical car!
Also funny to think that a bunch of us use to abuse these on an airfield in Devon every few months, we had 7 or 8 lined up once along with the 172s.
Edited by ukaskew on Wednesday 7th August 14:36
https://www.classiccarauctions.co.uk/2005-renault-...
WCZ said:
how much can they be tuned? can you make them properly fast and handle nicely?
There was a Trophy Cup race series using Clio V6s so I assume copying some of the modifications done to those cars or just starting with the Trophy version would be a good place to find the best handling versions.Courage LMP car used a Clip V6 engine, slightly bigger 3.2l and twin turbocharged at 650hp.
Snails said:
They may not have been much quicker and handling may have been a little unpredictable in certain conditions, but having owned Clio 172's and a Clio V6, it was the Clio V6 that was an overall better driving experience. It was far more than the sum of its parts and there felt like a sense of occasion every single time i went out in it.
If i had the money, I wouldn't buy this one at 40k as i'd want to drive the thing and not worry about the miles being put on it
When I read this article I thought you might have posted! If i had the money, I wouldn't buy this one at 40k as i'd want to drive the thing and not worry about the miles being put on it
Edited by Snails on Wednesday 7th August 12:32
It sounds like you still miss your one.
Sometimes I still wonder why I let you buy my E86, but 3 years on I've still got it's replacement!
Anyway I hope all is good with you.
i love mine, not the fastest car by today’s standards and the handling can be a bit odd but it’s still great fun to drive and that v6 sounds amazing on full chat, got it in 2011 with 18 thousand miles on the clock and less than 10 thousand pounds, it’s just turned 24 thousand miles so it’s turned out to be a bit of a bargain I had two phase 1 V6’s over the years.
I replaced my last one with a SLK55 and immediately regretted it.
As mentioned by others the V6 gets under your skin in a very infectious way. Not particularly amazing to drive and massively flawed, but an absolute sense of occasion every time you look at it, get in it, or drive it.
My second was the one car I really regretted selling.
Since shipping the SLK55 I’ve not run a second car - family life took priority.
However, just recently purchased a Smart Roadster Brabus for occasional use. Early days yet, but it certainly has a similarly infectious, characterful way about it like the V6 does.
It’s a shame that we’ll unlikely see anything like the Clio V6 again.
I replaced my last one with a SLK55 and immediately regretted it.
As mentioned by others the V6 gets under your skin in a very infectious way. Not particularly amazing to drive and massively flawed, but an absolute sense of occasion every time you look at it, get in it, or drive it.
My second was the one car I really regretted selling.
Since shipping the SLK55 I’ve not run a second car - family life took priority.
However, just recently purchased a Smart Roadster Brabus for occasional use. Early days yet, but it certainly has a similarly infectious, characterful way about it like the V6 does.
It’s a shame that we’ll unlikely see anything like the Clio V6 again.
Edited by CraigV6 on Thursday 8th August 07:08
Notanotherturbo said:
Phase 1s weren't built by Renault , TWR built them and did an appalling job. Badly fitted bodykits, dynamically awful and worse than anything built in Dieppe in the last 40 years. Hence Renault took them back in house for the Phase 2 and made loads of changes. Phase 2s are a much nicer car, need leather and Recaros to lift the cabin though. Look and sound great and I get the sense of occasion thing but there are so much better cars out there at 30-40k.
Like a TVR, you mean? I fully agree.
jhayward1980 said:
What is with PH obsession with referring to car maufacurers by their location? "Dieppe is doing this and that", "Hethel's latest offering"....
Yes I've noticed it too. It strikes me as a slightly lazy way of avoiding using the manufacturer's name too much.Matt-il77s said:
Harry's Garage just did a video on this which is a good watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9OD7ZvBuMg
Watched that. I'm sure it's sacrilege to some but, while his passion for cars is obvious, I just don't find him that engaging in videos.MikeGoodwin said:
Funny back in the day when the Clio 172/182 was about they were considered to be not much better than the 2 litre coupled with some odd handling traits.
And now we wear rose tinted glasses they are commanding this sort of money. I wouldn't have bought one when they were £15k never mind £20k or £40k
Isn't that kind of how the classic car market works though? A car doesn't have to be objectively brilliant to be sought-after later. A lot of the most collectible and expensive Italian exotica isn't actually that good, but it's evocative, so appeals for a number of reasons other than how technically good it is.And now we wear rose tinted glasses they are commanding this sort of money. I wouldn't have bought one when they were £15k never mind £20k or £40k
Yes there are "better" cars out there for the money, but that's missing the point.
Re: the price, remember this is an ultra low mile concourse car and not an average example. You can easily get a straight ph2 for under 25k) I did it myself. Some have sold at less than 20k recently. Many cars sell “under the radar” through the owners rather than in the public domain.
It is exceptional for a v6 to sell over 35k in today’s market and not the rule. Only the rare colour and ultra low mileage ones go for big money.
It is exceptional for a v6 to sell over 35k in today’s market and not the rule. Only the rare colour and ultra low mileage ones go for big money.
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