RE: Porsche Cayenne Turbo S E-Hybrid Coupe | Driven
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ROSS-ncbaf said:
Excessive car weight needs taxing. A lot. A 2500kg car like this wears out the road 5.76x more than a typical, 1600kg car.
Blame potholes on tw&ts in SUV's.
Any proof?Blame potholes on tw&ts in SUV's.
Anyway, my question is, if you are going about your business in electric only, then floor it, does a cold engine fire into life and have to perform at maximum revs without issue?
I love the car, personally I couldn't care less about the weight of a car in a daily, heavier probably makes it better in some aspects.
ROSS-ncbaf said:
swisstoni said:
ROSS-ncbaf said:
Excessive car weight needs taxing. A lot. A 2500kg car like this wears out the road 5.76x more than a typical, 1600kg car.
Blame potholes on tw&ts in SUV's.
Roads are designed to take vehicles several times the weight of these things (not that I’m saying that weight is a good thing).Blame potholes on tw&ts in SUV's.
Potholes appear because of cheapskate repairs and maintenance.
https://streets.mn/2016/07/07/chart-of-the-day-veh...
grrr that's not proof - there is no evidence cited, no basis for the assessment - just a table of numbers that someone made up. If they are to publish something like that then it needs evidence of the basis - along with evidence and logic for the tiering. That link has neither!
and the number of potholes is related to poor maintenance, volume of traffic and the style of repair and build of the roads - it's not as simple as just looking at any one factor (weight) and plotting a spurious (or potentially spurious) correlation!
see here for other equally well evidenced links ! https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations
/rant mode off/
neil1jnr said:
DonkeyApple said:
neil1jnr said:
Any proof?
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Proof, just look around, there are thousands of potholes. Each one is caused by rich people who pay shed loads of tax and will be shot just as soon as Emperor Farridge is in charge. .
neil1jnr said:
DonkeyApple said:
neil1jnr said:
Any proof?
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Proof, just look around, there are thousands of potholes. Each one is caused by rich people who pay shed loads of tax and will be shot just as soon as Emperor Farridge is in charge. .
And172940 said:
This just highlights the bulls
t of supposedly trying to save the planet.
Since the popularity of turbo-diesels and now hybrids, we've had ever increasing efficiency. But instead of using it to lower emissions we just get bigger and heavier cars with greater performance.
yeah it's complete non-sense and not been thought out properly t of supposedly trying to save the planet.Since the popularity of turbo-diesels and now hybrids, we've had ever increasing efficiency. But instead of using it to lower emissions we just get bigger and heavier cars with greater performance.
And172940 said:
This just highlights the bullst of supposedly trying to save the planet.
Since the popularity of turbo-diesels and now hybrids, we've had ever increasing efficiency. But instead of using it to lower emissions we just get bigger and heavier cars with greater performance.
Nail. Head.t of supposedly trying to save the planet.Since the popularity of turbo-diesels and now hybrids, we've had ever increasing efficiency. But instead of using it to lower emissions we just get bigger and heavier cars with greater performance.
NicoG said:
And172940 said:
This just highlights the bullst of supposedly trying to save the planet.
Since the popularity of turbo-diesels and now hybrids, we've had ever increasing efficiency. But instead of using it to lower emissions we just get bigger and heavier cars with greater performance.
Nail. Head.t of supposedly trying to save the planet.Since the popularity of turbo-diesels and now hybrids, we've had ever increasing efficiency. But instead of using it to lower emissions we just get bigger and heavier cars with greater performance.
However, taxation on weight is likely to be the core solution down the line once we have enough consumers switched to various forms of EV power.
So, like big cc ICE we should enjoy these big heavy cars while they are legislatively permitted as it won’t last.
Quite like it, bet its an amazing bit of kit.
It is heavy but those types of cars always are, its a tonne heavier than a normal car, it isnt going to eat the roads, that is more down to trucks and other massive stuff as mentioned, but also just the sheer volume of traffic. Perhaps also poor quality surfaces, lack of maintenance and bad weather cause more damage than the odd pretty weighty hybrid SUV.
It is heavy but those types of cars always are, its a tonne heavier than a normal car, it isnt going to eat the roads, that is more down to trucks and other massive stuff as mentioned, but also just the sheer volume of traffic. Perhaps also poor quality surfaces, lack of maintenance and bad weather cause more damage than the odd pretty weighty hybrid SUV.
pb8g09 said:
TartanPaint said:
Why? The Porsche warranty can be extended up to 15 years. I think it's about £1,800 every 2 years. Hardly terrifying.
Not many people that buy 10+ year old, heavily depreciated used vehicles tend to purchase a £900 a year warranty from Porsche though?TartanPaint said:
I've got an old diesel Cayenne as a family bus. It came up for sale when I was thinking about a Touareg.
I've been eye-openingly impressed with it, and have been obsessed with thoughts of a newer, faster petrol/hybrid/V8/turbo Cayennes ever since.
This isn't helping. What a beast! You can keep that "coupe" shape though.
Much the same for me... I bought an old 2005 Cayenne Turbo (princely sum of £3,500) as hack car and occasional tow car for my track car, and I've been so impressed by it, I'm considering a new or near new version... This didnt happen with my L322 v8 range rover...I've been eye-openingly impressed with it, and have been obsessed with thoughts of a newer, faster petrol/hybrid/V8/turbo Cayennes ever since.
This isn't helping. What a beast! You can keep that "coupe" shape though.
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