RE: Audi S6 Avant: Spotted

[BFleming]

Water Fairy said:

You should try the throttle response on a sports bike then....................

When I rode bikes, they had clutches, and you could control the amount of beans given (ZX6R & SV1000S previously owned, R6, GSXR 750 and a few more borrowed on occasion, so I get the responsiveness); the S6 is an auto and very overresponsive. Yes, it would be a case of getting used to it, but first impressions were not good (in town).

[akashzimzimma]

It's a nice engine, but they're just that fast for all the expense in fuel, and there far too nose heavy to enjoy properly on a twisty road as well.
A later 3.0 TFSI with stage 2 and down pipes, would be a lot more fun, quicker and much less nose heavy.

[ZX10R NIN]

Scabutz said:

soad said:

Detuned, one would assume? No sense in upsetting Lamborghinis...

It was turned down a bit so as not to upset the S8 which had almost the identical engine and had to have more power.

You do know this & the Lamborghini engine are different, back on track I'm pretty sure there's a readers car thread on one of these.

[Shaun-zht0g]

I drove this generation of S6 for 4 .5 years. Comparing it to a diesel is missing the point, the noise is thunderous under load. Tunnels are fun, cold starts are an event.

The throttle response was ridiculous it could only lurch/launch, but fun once your right foot got a bit lighter. The engine didn't need revving out at all, my short commute rarely saw 1500rpm or 18mpg. Torque from idle was immense certainly even better than a modern diesel.

I really really miss it. It did spend half its life in the garage though...and the other half at the pumps.

[Cupramax]

Shaun-zht0g said:

I drove this generation of S6 for 4 .5 years. Comparing it to a diesel is missing the point,

Except the very minor point that the new S6 is a diesel...

[Dynion Araf Uchaf]

I thought I had seen this car elsewhere today, and lo and behold it was in my timeline in twitter. How lucky can one person who happens to be the PR for Volkswagen be, to have his car picked up by a very large motoring enthusiasts website when you're trying to sell it.

[lord trumpton]

Ive just got no love for big NA lump cars.

Thirsty, complicated, expensive to run, nose heavy, not as fast as you'd think, old fashioned out of date approach to propulsion, difficult to work on due to lack of space (usually), sky high road tax, extremely polluting - I could go on.

For me a v/straight six with some form of charger is the sweet spot.

[Genuine Barn Find]

[quote=Dynion Araf Uchaf]I thought I had seen this car elsewhere today, and lo and behold it was in my timeline in twitter. How lucky can one person who happens to be the PR for Volkswagen be, to have his car picked up by a very large motoring enthusiasts website when you're trying to sell it. [/quote

You scratch my VAG and I’ll scratch yours?

[cerb4.5lee]

lord trumpton said:

Ive just got no love for big NA lump cars.

Thirsty, complicated, expensive to run, nose heavy, not as fast as you'd think, old fashioned out of date approach to propulsion, difficult to work on due to lack of space (usually), sky high road tax, extremely polluting - I could go on.

You are certainly not on your own with this view either...hence the new S6 switching to diesel.

I get torn about it though because I do like old school N/A engines, but they are usually not all that fast and also very thirsty...so I can understand why they have mostly died now.

[Scabutz]

ZX10R NIN said:

Scabutz said:

soad said:

Detuned, one would assume? No sense in upsetting Lamborghinis...

It was turned down a bit so as not to upset the S8 which had almost the identical engine and had to have more power.

You do know this & the Lamborghini engine are different, back on track I'm pretty sure there's a readers car thread on one of these.

Yes, I never mentioned a Lambo engine. The S6 engine was turned down so that the s8 engine would be more powerful is what I said.

[Cold]

Dynion Araf Uchaf said:

I thought I had seen this car elsewhere today, and lo and behold it was in my timeline in twitter. How lucky can one person who happens to be the PR for Volkswagen be, to have his car picked up by a very large motoring enthusiasts website when you're trying to sell it.

[carinaman]

Shaun-zht0g said:

I really really miss it. It did spend half its life in the garage though...and the other half at the pumps.

For the benefit of PHers what were the three biggest bills? What went wrong with the car?

[barryrs]

I had mine for 7 years and circa 50k miles and still miss it.

With the exception of front discs and fuel it wasn’t especially expensive to run and was pretty much bulletproof. The most frustrating issue that kept throwing random faults turned out to be the battery failing.

[Scabutz]

carinaman said:

Shaun-zht0g said:

I really really miss it. It did spend half its life in the garage though...and the other half at the pumps.

For the benefit of PHers what were the three biggest bills? What went wrong with the car?

Butting in. Brake pads and discs it are like I eat chocolate. 500 notes for the fronts. I live in MK so a lot of accelerating then breaking and went through a set a year.

Suspension. Same multilink as all audis. Once one arm goes they all start to follow.

I had an injector fault and a throttle body fail. The TB was going to 1000 from audi but I got one from a breakers for 50 quid.

Biggest cost was petrol. It took premium and on my commute I'd be lucky to get it above 14 mpg.

[carinaman]

Scabutz said:

Butting in.

Thanks, it's good to get the benefit of someone that's owned one.

Is the TB shared with other engines like the 4.2 V8?

[Shaun-zht0g]

carinaman said:

For the benefit of PHers what were the three biggest bills? What went wrong with the car?

Tyres, brakes and suspension. They just become quick consumables on such a heavy car.

Getting ready to sell the car I had the garage track down a persistent oil leak which cost around £2k. I saw the car in bits, if you need to get to the back of that engine it's a lotta work.

[carinaman]

Shaun-zht0g said:

Tyres, brakes and suspension. They just become quick consumables on such a heavy car.

Getting ready to sell the car I had the garage track down a persistent oil leak which cost around £2k. I saw the car in bits, if you need to get to the back of that engine it's a lotta work.

Thank you. I saw a review saying the V10 was less problematic than the BMW V10.

[Mike 83]

I remember reading somewhere my old xjr of the same vintage got to 60 in 5 seconds I always thought these where around the 4 seconds still a beast of a car though.

[Scabutz]

carinaman said:

Scabutz said:

Butting in.

Thanks, it's good to get the benefit of someone that's owned one.

Is the TB shared with other engines like the 4.2 V8?

No, I think that was part of why it cost so much. It was only for that engine.

Not sure if it's a common fault or I was just unlucky.

Luckily I found one in a breakers. Took about 30 mins to fit then coded via VCDS.

[scottygib553]

Midgster said:

13 years ago, £56k bought you a S6 V10 monster
Today £56k buys you the A6 S Line 50 TDi with Leather Seats, Metallic Paint, Comfort and Sound Packs.

I know inflation blah blah blah, but crikey!

There is no crikey about it. £56k in 2006 is touching £80k today.