RE: Toyota Land Cruiser | Spotted

[ChocolateFrog]

I've seen ones with rust holes big enough to put your fist through still sell for good money.

I've been looking at facelifted 100 series but good ones start at £10k, £8k if you're lucky and that's a 16 year old 200 000 miler. I do wonder if their reputation precedes them a bit too much, especially as they seem to rust as well as any other Japanese car.

[snowandrocks]

Wonderful old trucks - had ours for 14 years now and it just keeps on rumbling along.

As a previous poster mentioned, I can't think of anything else that would still be providing reliable service after, in our case, 28 years of daily abuse on the salt laden roads of rural Aberdeenshire.

It's had the front wheel bearings replaced, some brake pipes replaced and could probably do with some new dampers but other than that it's been nothing but routine maintenance.

I bought it after getting completely fed up of various Land Rover products. I enjoyed the Defenders when they worked but they really are unbelievably badly built and poorly engineered in comparison.

It's getting a bit rusty now along the bottom of the doors but the chassis is rock solid. Half tempted to throw some money at a gentle restoration as I'd be genuinely gutted to have to replace it.

Edited by snowandrocks on Wednesday 14th August 22:43

[Ritchie335is]

I'd love one of these for the engine alone, the 4.2 is a proper lump. If only they weren't so bloody thirsty, I'd daily one.

[NITO]

loveice said:

Wish we could have the proper Land Cruiser here in Europe (beside Russia). Ever since the last V8 Amazon, Toyota Europe has been trying so hard to convince us Prado is Land Cruiser, but it is not. Hopefully, when the 300 series is released, it will be officially re-introduced in Europe.

Exactly this, but I wouldn't hold your breath!

We had an 80 series, still running our 100 series. Toyota are trying to convince us of a lot of things really, reality is they have sold out and are producing vehicles that are well below the standard of what went previously, successors should develop not regress. New 'Landcruiser' cough Prada, is not a proper Landcruiser, the woefully performing new 2.4 Hilux, is not a proper Hilux like the outgoing 3.0 model, and then there's the new Supra!!

In the meantime, we continue with our 160k+ Hilux Invincible 200 and 190k Landcruiser Amazon until someone builds a worthy replacement, currently Toyota are NOT EVEN CLOSE! They need a good shaking, particularly as the vehicles exist and other markets get them, I wonder if the new EU trade deal with Japan might improve things and if we exit, maybe we can also get some decent Japanese models again. They're not the only ones, Subaru also screwed their target audience and loyal following.

[soad]

Hmm, seems pretty expensive? Limited market for these, don’t care what anyone else says.

[Sparky137]

soad said:

Hmm, seems pretty expensive? Limited market for these, don’t care what anyone else says.

Excelent attitude!!!

Unswerving confidence in yourself even though you are completely wrong. I bet you have climbed high in your chosen field of work purely through a confident attitude and the ability to sprout fluent bullst.

Well done to you sir!

[warch]

soad said:

Hmm, seems pretty expensive? Limited market for these, don’t care what anyone else says.

You've got a point, they've never been a big seller over here. The old VX was pretty handy for heavy towing back in the day but looks fairly old hat compared to the current crop of crew cab pickups.

[Pintofbest]

I prefer the older generation - this was my daughters prom car a few weeks back. 40 years old and with 4K miles on the clock, friend of a friend owns it and even got it detailed before taking her and didn’t want anything for doing it. Amazing generosity, he also did 20x his last years mileage just on the round trip for prom!

[Walter Sobchak]

soad said:

Hmm, seems pretty expensive? Limited market for these, don’t care what anyone else says.

You'll never struggle to sell a half decent Landcruiser, demand for these, the 100,200 and even the 120 Prados outstrips supply, well for decent ones anyway as they rarely come up for sale, people tend to keep them.

[jason61c]

Landrover owners talking about rust. Defenders normally have corrosion from new and get worse quickly.

Not even talking about chocolate build quality.

[snowandrocks]

Walter Sobchak said:

soad said:

Hmm, seems pretty expensive? Limited market for these, don’t care what anyone else says.

You'll never struggle to sell a half decent Landcruiser, demand for these, the 100,200 and even the 120 Prados outstrips supply, well for decent ones anyway as they rarely come up for sale, people tend to keep them.

I get no end of people leaving cards and asking to buy mine.

The residuals also tell a story - decent full size Land Cruisers hold their value incredibly well - 10+ year old high mileage 200 series are still worth £30-40k.

[llcoolmac]

warch said:

soad said:

Hmm, seems pretty expensive? Limited market for these, don’t care what anyone else says.

You've got a point, they've never been a big seller over here. The old VX was pretty handy for heavy towing back in the day but looks fairly old hat compared to the current crop of crew cab pickups.

Not really, we have a brand new D-max which I reckon is a much better vehicle than the Hilux and is actually quite good to pull. But there is no comparison with the 4.2. it is an immensely better vehicle to tow a heavy load with. Even once you are up to speed it just isn't upset by anything. Towing three 2 year old bulls in a pickup is a scary experience. In the landcruiser its just a bit of rocking around.

[warch]

llcoolmac said:

We have a brand new D-max which I reckon is a much better vehicle than the Hilux and is actually quite good to pull. But there is no comparison with the 4.2. it is an immensely better vehicle to tow a heavy load with. Even once you are up to speed it just isn't upset by anything. Towing three 2 year old bulls in a pickup is a scary experience. In the landcruiser its just a bit of rocking around.

Ironically, given the context of this discussion I used to work with cattle circa 1993-94 on a large estate. We used a Land Rover 90 TD (with about 80hp) to tow the cattle trailer, although I doubt we ever had such a heavy load as three bulls on board at any one time. God that thing was impressive, it would go anywhere.

VXs were and are a bit rare where I live although there is one in my village and one on a nearby estate. They were quite popular with heavy plant operators but are now too old to be commercially viable. D Max's and Defenders/Discoverys are the default vehicles of choice for the heavy towing brigade where I live. I think a long wheelbase and evenly distributed weight are the main characteristics you want for towing.

[Walter Sobchak]

snowandrocks said:

I get no end of people leaving cards and asking to buy mine.

The residuals also tell a story - decent full size Land Cruisers hold their value incredibly well - 10+ year old high mileage 200 series are still worth £30-40k.

Agreed, they have incredibly strong residuals, even an early 200 series with a lot of miles seems to be about £25k. The smaller 120 series seem to have a following too, I had no trouble selling mine at all, I’m not surprised people often leave notes on yours.

[soad]

Sparky137 said:

Excelent attitude!!!

Unswerving confidence in yourself even though you are completely wrong. I bet you have climbed high in your chosen field of work purely through a confident attitude and the ability to sprout fluent bullst.

Well done to you sir!

Perhaps my judgement was clouded by a few drinks...night shifts to blame.