RE: Ford Fiesta ST Performance Edition | Driven

RE: Ford Fiesta ST Performance Edition | Driven

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IanJ9375

1,468 posts

216 months

Sunday 18th August 2019
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Court_S said:
I quite like the colour, but I’m really not a fan of the price! Jeez.

I wonder what the discounts will be like on these?
Probably slim if any at all as I expect the demand will match if not exceed the supply.
There was zilch to be had on the Focus RS when it came out and to be fair that pretty much stayed true with the RRP going upwards, think I only saw pre-reg cars being softened for sale.

The price once you accept inflation isn't that bad....says the guy waiting on a 330e build that booked at £46k to turn up!

df76

3,627 posts

278 months

Sunday 18th August 2019
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Court_S said:
I quite like the colour, but I’m really not a fan of the price! Jeez.

I wonder what the discounts will be like on these?
Given that you can get a good £4k off an ST-3 Performance Pack, you'd have to really like orange to buy one of these near full price.

ToothbrushMan

1,770 posts

125 months

Sunday 18th August 2019
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that side profile pic. the guy looks like he has a tiny pin head sat in there. that or the car around him is huge.......go back and have a look and youll see what I mean. sorry for digressing so far......

spikyone

1,450 posts

100 months

Sunday 18th August 2019
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ToothbrushMan said:
that side profile pic. the guy looks like he has a tiny pin head sat in there. that or the car around him is huge.......go back and have a look and youll see what I mean. sorry for digressing so far......
Someone already pointed that out. And the (entirely accurate) reply was that this generation of Fiesta looks like a C Max.

It really is a dull as ditchwater piece of styling. Even the colour can't save it from blandness. It wouldn't get my money; I haven't liked the steering on any of the recent Fords I've driven, and the looks put me off finding out whether they fixed it for this one.

Jon_S_Rally

3,400 posts

88 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Lemming Train said:
And it's in a terrible colour that no-one will ever buy.
No one? Really?

blade7 said:
With less power than the Ford approved Mountune Fiesta ST or ST200.
But a limited-slip diff, adjustable dampers, lighter wheels and a much, much, much better interior. I would wager that this car would be faster round a track than a Mountune MK7.

spikyone said:
Someone already pointed that out. And the (entirely accurate) reply was that this generation of Fiesta looks like a C Max.

It really is a dull as ditchwater piece of styling. Even the colour can't save it from blandness. It wouldn't get my money; I haven't liked the steering on any of the recent Fords I've driven, and the looks put me off finding out whether they fixed it for this one.
Given how many are starting to appear on the roads, then it seems many disagree with you.

Escort Si-130

3,272 posts

180 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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jon-yprpe said:
Wrap the rear window in the same colour and add a ‘British Telecom’ logo...
Specsavers I think you need to pay a visit.
The BT van colour of the 70's/80's were "yellow" way complete different shade. I miss those days. I also like the British Telecom logo back then.

Escort Si-130

3,272 posts

180 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Initforthemoney said:
Are the lights on the tailgate supposed to line up with the ones on the rear quarter?
I was wondering the same thing

Escort Si-130

3,272 posts

180 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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sicasey said:
Mini JCW for me please.
Yuk @ Mini, far too many knobs drive them which is a turn off

Escort Si-130

3,272 posts

180 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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IanJ9375 said:
Lemming Train said:
Just keeping up with the tradition I guess. Did you ever see the giant bonnet gap on the mk3 Focus's that were big enough to get half of your hand in with the bonnet fully closed? Ford QC is non-existent.
You must have one of those Jeremy Beadle hands...
FPMSL, damn! that was hilarious at Jeremy Beadle. smile

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

72 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Escort Si-130 said:
jon-yprpe said:
Wrap the rear window in the same colour and add a ‘British Telecom’ logo...
Specsavers I think you need to pay a visit.
The BT van colour of the 70's/80's were "yellow" way complete different shade. I miss those days. I also like the British Telecom logo back then.
Not a million miles out imo. The Dodge and Sherpa vans seemed to get a different shade which was much more yellow.





davyvee

295 posts

135 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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I thought this was going to be the Clio Trophy of it's age but that seems like a lukewarm review in all honesty.

Be interesting to see what's it's like on softer damper settings.

Edited by davyvee on Monday 19th August 12:22

Jon_S_Rally

3,400 posts

88 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Lemming Train said:
Not a million miles out imo. The Dodge and Sherpa vans seemed to get a different shade which was much more yellow.




You definitely need to go to Specsavers. The Fiesta is orange, the vans are yellow.

spikyone

1,450 posts

100 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Jon_S_Rally said:
spikyone said:
Someone already pointed that out. And the (entirely accurate) reply was that this generation of Fiesta looks like a C Max.

It really is a dull as ditchwater piece of styling. Even the colour can't save it from blandness. It wouldn't get my money; I haven't liked the steering on any of the recent Fords I've driven, and the looks put me off finding out whether they fixed it for this one.
Given how many are starting to appear on the roads, then it seems many disagree with you.
There are a lot of Nissan Jukes on the road too.

The reason there are a lot of Fiesta STs on the road is that we (in Britain, collectively) buy a lot of hot hatches, and a lot of Ford Fiestas. It doesn't change the fact that the styling of this generation - and most of Ford's other current designs - is incredibly boring and derivative, and its proportions resemble a small MPV.

J4CKO

41,477 posts

200 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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spikyone said:
Jon_S_Rally said:
spikyone said:
Someone already pointed that out. And the (entirely accurate) reply was that this generation of Fiesta looks like a C Max.

It really is a dull as ditchwater piece of styling. Even the colour can't save it from blandness. It wouldn't get my money; I haven't liked the steering on any of the recent Fords I've driven, and the looks put me off finding out whether they fixed it for this one.
Given how many are starting to appear on the roads, then it seems many disagree with you.
There are a lot of Nissan Jukes on the road too.

The reason there are a lot of Fiesta STs on the road is that we (in Britain, collectively) buy a lot of hot hatches, and a lot of Ford Fiestas. It doesn't change the fact that the styling of this generation - and most of Ford's other current designs - is incredibly boring and derivative, and its proportions resemble a small MPV.
Always thought he Fiesta is one of the better looking small cars, not sure what else is out there that looks massively better, the Ibiza isnt a bad looker, Polo is a bit safe VW looking, Corsa is ok, not that much room to really go crazy and its generally a conservative market.


Not over keen on the Orange, kind of says "Plant Hire" to me, seen worse but I think half the point with these special editions is to make it obvious that it isnt the run of the mill model, and people will pay for that, a Red Focus RS, anyone who knows their cars knows its a special edition, same as with a grey previous gen Fiesta ST, even if the colour isnt that great, people will pay to have something different.


Mr Whippy

29,022 posts

241 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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I had a late facelift ST (last shape) and loved it as a small hot hatch.

I thought the steering was very good. And the standard halogen lights.

I didn’t look at the interior much as I was always driving it. But I didn’t mind it.

Had this been a 4 pot with 220bhp/240bhp overboost with a ls diff, 4dr, and the same steering as the old one, I’d have genuinely been tempted.

But it’s not. So I’m not.

Court_S

12,888 posts

177 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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IanJ9375 said:
Probably slim if any at all as I expect the demand will match if not exceed the supply.
There was zilch to be had on the Focus RS when it came out and to be fair that pretty much stayed true with the RRP going upwards, think I only saw pre-reg cars being softened for sale.

The price once you accept inflation isn't that bad....says the guy waiting on a 330e build that booked at £46k to turn up!
Thought as much - just seems an awful lot of money. It's not a million miles off what I paid for my 140 (after discount admittedly).

RacerMike

4,198 posts

211 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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I’ve got a 1.0l 125hp ST-Line as a daily and personally I think it’s great. I’m not sure there’s much in the B segment that is better looking than the Fiesta, and immediately you feel that Ford still bother to tune their dynamics for people who actually enjoy driving.

I’d be interested to know what else people would suggest buying instead of this....

Jon_S_Rally

3,400 posts

88 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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spikyone said:
There are a lot of Nissan Jukes on the road too.

The reason there are a lot of Fiesta STs on the road is that we (in Britain, collectively) buy a lot of hot hatches, and a lot of Ford Fiestas. It doesn't change the fact that the styling of this generation - and most of Ford's other current designs - is incredibly boring and derivative, and its proportions resemble a small MPV.
There are. I think they look bloody awful, but plenty of other people obviously don't.

We do buy a lot of hot hatches and a lot of Fiestas, but I suspect there could be a reason for that, couldn't there? I don't think people would be buying them if they thought they looked awful, as they certainly aren't the cheapest B-segment car on the market. As for the proportions, that's a simple result of the requirements of aerodynamics and interior space, which is why most hatchbacks now use a very similar shape. You don't have to like it of course, but plenty of other people do. I don't really know what people expect. They've added some subtle skirts and spoilers, so it looks smarter than a regular Fiesta. If car companies go mad, as Honda did with the Type-R, they get slated by some for making the car look chavvy, if they stay conservative, they get slated by others for being boring. They're damned either way.

Mr Whippy said:
I had a late facelift ST (last shape) and loved it as a small hot hatch.

I thought the steering was very good. And the standard halogen lights.

I didn’t look at the interior much as I was always driving it. But I didn’t mind it.

Had this been a 4 pot with 220bhp/240bhp overboost with a ls diff, 4dr, and the same steering as the old one, I’d have genuinely been tempted.

But it’s not. So I’m not.
You can buy one with four doors and a diff. Does it matter how many cylinders it has?

I think the big issue is, what else is there in this segment? The 208 GTI is gone, as is the R.S. Clio. The Polo GTI is auto only and not a match for the Fiesta by all account, while the MINI seems to divide plenty of opinion. It's not exactly a thriving segment currently. The Fiesta is the only one I would buy. Hopefully the i20 N will liven things up a bit too.

CrippsCorner

2,803 posts

181 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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The colour's lovely in the flesh, definitely the one to go for, as I'm really disappointed with the standard colours available (very strange for Ford actually) the blue especially is so drab.

I do like these but overall still think the previous version looks slightly better. Unfortunately haven't had a go in either yet frown

Big Robbo

319 posts

146 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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spikyone said:
ToothbrushMan said:
that side profile pic. the guy looks like he has a tiny pin head sat in there. that or the car around him is huge.......go back and have a look and youll see what I mean. sorry for digressing so far......
Someone already pointed that out. And the (entirely accurate) reply was that this generation of Fiesta looks like a C Max.

It really is a dull as ditchwater piece of styling. Even the colour can't save it from blandness. It wouldn't get my money; I haven't liked the steering on any of the recent Fords I've driven, and the looks put me off finding out whether they fixed it for this one.
So what's stopping you taking one for a test drive or is your opinion set in stone?