RE: Audi Sport unveils all-new 600hp RS6 Avant

RE: Audi Sport unveils all-new 600hp RS6 Avant

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w00tman

603 posts

145 months

Saturday 24th August 2019
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Silver outside, tan inside - utterly amazing.

Just need a lotto win now..

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Saturday 24th August 2019
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Are they going to sort out the dynamics this time? Probably not but as seen on this thread, the average RS buyer doesn't seem to care about such things.

Has to be an E63 for me.

eddharris

456 posts

193 months

Saturday 24th August 2019
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SidewaysSi said:
Are they going to sort out the dynamics this time? Probably not but as seen on this thread, the average RS buyer doesn't seem to care about such things.

Has to be an E63 for me.
What do you mean? What's wrong with it, dynamically?

Zippee

13,463 posts

234 months

Saturday 24th August 2019
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eddharris said:
SidewaysSi said:
Are they going to sort out the dynamics this time? Probably not but as seen on this thread, the average RS buyer doesn't seem to care about such things.

Has to be an E63 for me.
What do you mean? What's wrong with it, dynamically?
Bugger all as far as I'm concerned. Goes like a bat out of hell, handles well especially given its weight and puts a smile on my face every time I go for a drive. It's 4wd so no rear out fun bit then I never do that on the roads anyway.

eddharris

456 posts

193 months

Saturday 24th August 2019
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Zippee said:
Bugger all as far as I'm concerned. Goes like a bat out of hell, handles well especially given its weight and puts a smile on my face every time I go for a drive. It's 4wd so no rear out fun bit then I never do that on the roads anyway.
What kind of person considers buying one of these for drifting?

We had a weekend up in the highlands a few years back in a regular A6 estate and it was great. 2 kids, lots of stuff in the back, comfortable and quick. I can only imagine, for now, how much fun this would be.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Saturday 24th August 2019
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Zippee said:
eddharris said:
SidewaysSi said:
Are they going to sort out the dynamics this time? Probably not but as seen on this thread, the average RS buyer doesn't seem to care about such things.

Has to be an E63 for me.
What do you mean? What's wrong with it, dynamically?
Bugger all as far as I'm concerned. Goes like a bat out of hell, handles well especially given its weight and puts a smile on my face every time I go for a drive. It's 4wd so no rear out fun bit then I never do that on the roads anyway.
Depends what you are into. I need all my cars to steer properly and ideally have a rear power bias to be fun on road.

Let's see what our Audi engineer/marketing friends manage but they usually lack the ability to make an engaging driver's car. Lots of power, plenty of grip but little else of value.

I may be proven wrong this time but based on prior experience, probably not.

eddharris

456 posts

193 months

Saturday 24th August 2019
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SidewaysSi said:
Depends what you are into. I need all my cars to steer properly and ideally have a rear power bias to be fun on road.

Let's see what our Audi engineer/marketing friends manage but they usually lack the ability to make an engaging driver's car. Lots of power, plenty of grip but little else of value.

I may be proven wrong this time but based on prior experience, probably not.
Good point, you should call the chief Audi engineers and tell them the proper way to do it.

blueg33

35,883 posts

224 months

Saturday 24th August 2019
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I’m sure it does exactly what the Audi designers wanted it to do, but I’ll still pass thanks.


eddharris

456 posts

193 months

Saturday 24th August 2019
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blueg33 said:
I’m sure it does exactly what the Audi designers wanted it to do, but I’ll still pass thanks.
Daily commute for some folk on here apparentlysmile



cerb4.5lee

30,568 posts

180 months

Sunday 25th August 2019
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eddharris said:
blueg33 said:
I’m sure it does exactly what the Audi designers wanted it to do, but I’ll still pass thanks.
Daily commute for some folk on here apparentlysmile


Love it! smokin

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Sunday 25th August 2019
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eddharris said:
blueg33 said:
I’m sure it does exactly what the Audi designers wanted it to do, but I’ll still pass thanks.
Daily commute for some folk on here apparentlysmile


Not sure that is what I said. But yes, that is how it should be done.

And Audi's engineers seem quote an incapable bunch so no point in calling them.

Or they know their type of buyers of course...;)

Leins

9,468 posts

148 months

Sunday 25th August 2019
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SidewaysSi said:
Are they going to sort out the dynamics this time? Probably not but as seen on this thread, the average RS buyer doesn't seem to care about such things.

Has to be an E63 for me.
Generally nothing wrong with the dynamics, and this oft-quoted lack of steering finesse is very much overstated. Modern BMWs (as in last 20years) are hardly a paragon of steering excellence either. It’s been a long time since the E30, which had proper steering feel

One thing I will say is that fast Audis are generally less fidgety at big speeds (north of 150mph) IME. And that’s kind of what they’re built for, which may or may not be your bag. It doesn’t however mean they got the dynamics wrong though IMO

Glenn63

2,757 posts

84 months

Sunday 25th August 2019
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I don’t know why people go on about these types of cars like they should handle on par with a caterham, it’s a large estate for lugging families and luggage about daily, but also has a big engine, bonus!
‘It’s pointless might as well get an A6 TDI’ why? That whole point is that the RS6 can do all the same as the A6 but have a monster engine the only reason to choose the A6 would be cost I don’t see how people see a lovely great V8 under the bonnet as a downside...

eddharris

456 posts

193 months

Sunday 25th August 2019
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[quote=Glenn63]I don’t know why people go on about these types of cars like they should handle on par with a caterham, it’s a large estate for lugging families and luggage about daily, but also has a big engine, bonus!
‘It’s pointless might as well get an A6 TDI’ why? That whole point is that the RS6 can do all the same as the A6 but have a monster engine the only reason to choose the A6 would be cost I don’t see how people see a lovely great V8 under the bonnet as a downside...

Agreed. Apparently Audi engineers are a little incompetent, that's thread numberwang.

epom

11,514 posts

161 months

Sunday 25th August 2019
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Glenn63 said:
I don’t know why people go on about these types of cars like they should handle on par with a caterham, it’s a large estate for lugging families and luggage about daily, but also has a big engine, bonus!
‘It’s pointless might as well get an A6 TDI’ why? That whole point is that the RS6 can do all the same as the A6 but have a monster engine the only reason to choose the A6 would be cost I don’t see how people see a lovely great V8 under the bonnet as a downside...
Stop making sense, you are in the wrong thread.

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

230 months

Sunday 25th August 2019
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Misano Red with black pack IRL. Looks properly amazing.


RSbandit

2,602 posts

132 months

Sunday 25th August 2019
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Can always count on the driving God that is Sideways Si to appear on any RS audi thread and whine about 'driving dynamics'...this makes an E63 look bland as fook...red with black pack as above oh my...

urquattroGus

1,847 posts

190 months

Sunday 25th August 2019
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The C7 does some kind of weird torque steer type sensation when you nail it in a straight line, weaves about. I find this surprising but it's definately there on my fathers car and also he says on the car he had as a demo.

Also hate the Carbon Ceramic Brakes for feel and modulation, steering also so so. A big but mightily impressive bus.

Not sure about the looks of this new one but i'm sure it'll be impressive, personally would lean towards the E63 though smile

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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RSbandit said:
Can always count on the driving God that is Sideways Si to appear on any RS audi thread and whine about 'driving dynamics'...this makes an E63 look bland as fook...red with black pack as above oh my...
Well if it looks good...As I said, they have nailed their buyer. smile

Onehp

1,617 posts

283 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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SidewaysSi said:
RSbandit said:
Can always count on the driving God that is Sideways Si to appear on any RS audi thread and whine about 'driving dynamics'...this makes an E63 look bland as fook...red with black pack as above oh my...
Well if it looks good...As I said, they have nailed their buyer. smile
Yeah, spectrum of preferences also, we don't need to agree on everything, would be a boring world if we all agreed on one single car that is ideal for everyone....