Why the hate for SUV convertibles?

[Alex_225]

Fast Bug said:

Alex_225 said:

Nissan Juke more practical than a Ford Focus? X4 more practical than a 5 series? GLC loads more room than an E Class?

You've got your classes mixed up a bit there, Juke is probably more Fiesta size, X4 is 3 series sized and GLC is C Class.

The GLC actually is roomier than the C Class as it's a touch wider. My mother is getting on a bit these days and finds the GLC easier to get in and out of than she does a C or E Class

I can't knock a need like finding a car easier to get in and out of. The chap I bought my CLS from replaced it with a BMW X3 which I believe he's really pleased with. Party the reason being that his back plays up and a taller car is needed. My granddad did the same moving from a Civic to an FR-V which was higher because he had bad hips so absolutely get it.

I do see what you mean in terms of different classes. I suppose I'm thinking of it more along the lines of what you can buy new for your money. I would imagine a C220d is cheaper than a GLC220d for example.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Sporky said:

I always thought the only problem with the Evoque convertible is that it makes the people in it look tiny. Something about the proportions makes it look smaller than it is.

See?

I think that looks fantastic. Love the orange/black wheels.

[Weekendrebuild]

My opinion , but there pointless and look ghastly ! Kind of makes a mockery of what a soft top is about really !

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Weekendrebuild said:

My opinion , but there pointless and look ghastly ! Kind of makes a mockery of what a soft top is about really !

What is the point of a soft top? I've always thought *they're* about giving you the option of open top motoring. The Evoque soft top provides that.

[LuS1fer]

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[Speed addicted]

MGirl said:

Thinking about it, I’ve taken the sport over som e really rouged terrain, the kind that makes you think it might topple over and it’s not......but would I want to do that in a suv with a fabric roof? Hell no. It’s not really a SUV then is it?

So a soft top Defender (or any defender) isn’t any use either?
If you Roll any car it’s a bad day all round.

[DoubleD]

Alex_225 said:

Most people with these SUVs don't need them

I bet they need a car, so yes they do need them.

[akirk]

DonkeyApple said:

I’m constantly amazed at the number of peasants who think you can shoot tigers or fly falcons from a hard top SUV.

getting a bit rough in your part of the UK?
sadly all the tigers are gone down here, and flying falcons is tricky due to the drones!

[Venisonpie]

Are these not the ultimate in style over substance, chosen to follow the fashion crowd suggesting a shallow approach to life? They look dreadful like many convertible versions of regular models - pitiful cars.
Nothing new there though, I seem to remember open back Vitara's driven by (admittedly attractive) plastic babes back in the 90's.

[DoubleD]

Venisonpie said:

Are these not the ultimate in style over substance, chosen to follow the fashion crowd suggesting a shallow approach to life?

I think the real sad thing is people who come out with comments like yours.

And no, I dont own or want an SUV.

[Venisonpie]

DoubleD said:

Venisonpie said:

Are these not the ultimate in style over substance, chosen to follow the fashion crowd suggesting a shallow approach to life?

I think the real sad thing is people who come out with comments like yours.

And no, I dont own or want an SUV.

Why is it sad? I can't stand pretentious. These are pretentious.

[Jazzy Jag]

Venisonpie said:

DoubleD said:

Venisonpie said:

Are these not the ultimate in style over substance, chosen to follow the fashion crowd suggesting a shallow approach to life?

I think the real sad thing is people who come out with comments like yours.

And no, I dont own or want an SUV.

Why is it sad? I can't stand pretentious. These are pretentious.

On some level, most cars are.
No one needs more than basic transportation to get them and their family from A to B at up to 70 MPH. Anything more is superfluous and unnecessary.

But where is the fun in that?
The car industry (and many others) is built on pretentiousness and egotism.

[Venisonpie]

Jazzy Jag said:

On some level, most cars are.
No one needs more than basic transportation to get them and their family from A to B at up to 70 MPH. Anything more is superfluous and unnecessary.

But where is the fun in that?
The car industry (and many others) is built on pretentiousness and egotism.

Spot on.

These are right on the edge of the scale hence the ridicule they attract and the purpose of this thread.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Venisonpie said:

Are these not the ultimate in style over substance, chosen to follow the fashion crowd suggesting a shallow approach to life?

You could argue that also applies to those who slate them. Reading the unoriginal comments on here, "skip, bathtub" etc, I suspect lots of people hate them because hating them is the really treny position to take, so you can ride on the same bandwagon as Chris Harris and co.

Everyone wants to be in the cool crowd, and hating them is cool. '

[Jazzy Jag]

Venisonpie said:

Jazzy Jag said:

On some level, most cars are.
No one needs more than basic transportation to get them and their family from A to B at up to 70 MPH. Anything more is superfluous and unnecessary.

But where is the fun in that?
The car industry (and many others) is built on pretentiousness and egotism.

Spot on.

These are right on the edge of the scale hence the ridicule they attract and the purpose of this thread.

IIRC weren't 4x4s intended to be soft tops?

Willy's Jeep, Series 1 Land Rover, Austin Gypsy, Toyota Land Cruiser, SJ410.

Arguably fitted a roof and comfort options is pretentious. Having a rag top is being purist.

[Venisonpie]

Jazzy Jag said:

IIRC weren't 4x4s intended to be soft tops?

Willy's Jeep, Series 1 Land Rover, Austin Gypsy, Toyota Land Cruiser, SJ410.

Arguably fitted a roof and comfort options is pretentious. Having a rag top is being purist.

Indeed, all of those were designed for a functional purpose and happened to be sans roof. They were utilitarian first which strangely makes them cool now apparently.
Was the Evoque designed for functional purpose? Was it F. It was automotive burberry to start with and taking the roof off simply sent it over the cliff.

[Venisonpie]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

You could argue that also applies to those who slate them. Reading the unoriginal comments on here, "skip, bathtub" etc, I suspect lots of people hate them because hating them is the really treny position to take, so you can ride on the same bandwagon as Chris Harris and co.

Everyone wants to be in the cool crowd, and hating them is cool. '

I've never been accused of trying to be cool and am in no danger of achieving it. Maybe people can see through the bull and that's the real reason?

[Sporky]

Venisonpie said:

These are pretentious.

What are they pretending to be?

[N111BJG]

I had a J-Top (soft top) Pajero (Shogun), its V6 3litre engine + huge chunky tyres made it huge fun.
No idea what it’s original market was supposed to be in 1995 when it was made, but I do know that I sold it to a bloke with a villa in Portugal who said that Left Hand Drive ones were far more expensive to buy there, so I guess that means they were popular.

[ez64]

Once again top gear, years ahead of the curve