Why the hate for SUV convertibles?

Why the hate for SUV convertibles?

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nickfrog

10,177 posts

162 months

Friday 23rd August
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hyphen said:
nickfrog said:
Alex_225 said:
Most people with these SUVs don't need them, they may cant the elevated driving position and some will claim the additional space but ultimately it's nothing a hatchback or saloon car couldn't do.
Sorry Alex but that's utter bks based on my experience.
Your lack of experience is making you talk utter b*llocks...
Based on your "contributions" to PH, I'll have to take that as a compliment. My experience of hatch backs, SUVs and estates is comprehensive. Hence my conclusions that SUVs can do lots of things than hatch backs can't. Simple, even for you.

yonex

15,084 posts

113 months

Friday 23rd August
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But whatever you want.

Personally I’d rather an estate car, but seriously who cares?

hyphen

10,623 posts

35 months

Friday 23rd August
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nickfrog said:
hyphen said:
nickfrog said:
Alex_225 said:
Most people with these SUVs don't need them, they may cant the elevated driving position and some will claim the additional space but ultimately it's nothing a hatchback or saloon car couldn't do.
Sorry Alex but that's utter bks based on my experience.
Your lack of experience is making you talk utter b*llocks...
Based on your "contributions" to PH, I'll have to take that as a compliment. My experience of hatch backs, SUVs and estates is comprehensive. Hence my conclusions that SUVs can do lots of things than hatch backs can't. Simple, even for you.
Read his post. He says 'most people' don't need them. Not the capabilities of different body shapes.

Most people don't do a lot, they go to work, go shopping and take a taxi to the airport for any holidays.

'Most people' don't live rural, they don't regularly need to pack a vans worth of stuff.

Most people don't... I could go on, but I'm sure you have now realised your error in not answering 'the' question, but your own question. smile

Your "contribution" was terrible hehe

Edited by hyphen on Friday 23 August 21:16

timberman

475 posts

160 months

Friday 23rd August
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hyphen said:
Read his post. He says 'most people' don't need them. Not the capabilities of different body shapes.

Most people don't do a lot, they go to work, go shopping and take a taxi to the airport for any holidays.

'Most people' don't live rural, they don't regularly need to pack a vans worth of stuff.

Most people don't... I could go on, but I'm sure you have now realised your error in not answering 'the' question, but your own question. smile

Your "contribution" was terrible hehe

Edited by hyphen on Friday 23 August 21:16
what the hells need got to do with anything?.

Half the crap I buy I don't need,

most people buy the things they want, and that includes buying the version they want of the thing they need, otherwise people would just buy the most basic version of whatever they needed that suited their requirements.

I never understood SUV's or crossovers myself, I always viewed them as overpriced, heavy gas guzzlers with wayward handling,

then my wife wanted a new car and decided she liked the Vw tiguan,
so I ordered one but insisted it had to be petrol and awd.

We still have it after over 5 years and it's been the best family car we've had.

it may not be proper 4wd but it's far superior on snow or slippery surfaces than any 2wd car I've driven,
and being able to pull away from traffic lights or junctions without worrying about wheel spin even on wet roads can make life a lot easier.

I actually prefer the higher seating position as it gives a better view of the road,
it doesn't handle nearly as badly as I thought it would,
and it may not be quite as good on petrol as a hatchback, but as we average less than 8000 miles a year the difference isn't worth considering.

would I buy a convertible version?, probably not for me but I don't have any problem with them and if my wife wanted one, then yes why not, and I'd be quite happy to drive around in it.

An estate may be just as capable in most circumstances but we didn't want a bloody estate so what use is that.

hyphen

10,623 posts

35 months

Friday 23rd August
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timberman said:
then my wife wanted a new car and decided she liked the Vw tiguan,
so I ordered one but insisted it had to be petrol and awd.

We still have it after over 5 years and it's been the best family car we've had.
Why didnt you get the larger q7, or a XC90 or a Gls.

Sit even further higher up, and with even more room smile

As the hate around SUVs is not so much about Tiguan or Qashqais, it's about people buying impractically large vehicles whilst living in normal towns and mainly doing local trips with minimal passengers, where roads are narrow and parking spaces 'standard sized' and being a general pain to be on the road around.

timberman said:
it may not be proper 4wd but it's far superior on snow or slippery surfaces than any 2wd car I've driven,
and being able to pull away from traffic lights or junctions without worrying about wheel spin even on wet roads can make life a lot easier.
Not sure if serious... rofl

Edited by hyphen on Friday 23 August 23:17

timberman

475 posts

160 months

Saturday 24th August
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hyphen said:
timberman said:
then my wife wanted a new car and decided she liked the Vw tiguan,
so I ordered one but insisted it had to be petrol and awd.

We still have it after over 5 years and it's been the best family car we've had.
Why didnt you get the larger q7, or a XC90 or a Gls.

Sit even further higher up, and with even more room smile

because why wife didn't like any of them !!

we did actually look at the ford kuga and the evoque, but they were discounted for various reasons and we'd pretty much decided against anything larger as the cost would go up and they wouldn't give us anything extra that we would want.

As the hate around SUVs is not so much about Tiguan or Qashqais, it's about people buying impractically large vehicles whilst living in normal towns and mainly doing local trips with minimal passengers, where roads are narrow and parking spaces 'standard sized' and being a general pain to be on the road around.

timberman said:
it may not be proper 4wd but it's far superior on snow or slippery surfaces than any 2wd car I've driven,
and being able to pull away from traffic lights or junctions without worrying about wheel spin even on wet roads can make life a lot easier.
Not sure if serious... rofl

Edited by hyphen on Friday 23 August 23:17
yes very,
It may seem trivial but personally I find it preferable being able to just plant my foot down and go
trying to pull away at a junction that happens to be on a slippery incline often means waiting for a bigger gap in traffic due to lack of traction, I have no such issues and just pull away the same as I would on a dry surface, it also means I can get away from the lights quicker if I feel the need,
what's not to like smile


Mr Tidy

9,154 posts

72 months

Saturday 24th August
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You sound just like "eric"!

I put winter tyres on my BMW every year and still pull away very effectively, even in snow.

And it has 4 wheel brakes and steering just like any Subaru!

But getting back on topic what exactly is the point of an "SUV" Convertible?


Bill

39,634 posts

200 months

Saturday 24th August
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Mr Tidy said:
But getting back on topic what exactly is the point of an "SUV" Convertible?
What's the point of any convertible? Because that's the answer, whether it's a 911 or an A4.

Alex_225

3,500 posts

146 months

Saturday 24th August
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nickfrog said:
Alex_225 said:
Most people with these SUVs don't need them, they may cant the elevated driving position and some will claim the additional space but ultimately it's nothing a hatchback or saloon car couldn't do.
Sorry Alex but that's utter bks based on my experience.
Which part is 'utter b*llocks' as you put it? They do have an elevated driving position. Often people interpret the height as offering additional space over a car that is lower to the ground.

Yet I'm pretty sure that an Evoque convertible or even a normal Evoque probably offers very little over the likes of a decent sized saloon car other than the elevated drive height.

Nissan Juke more practical than a Ford Focus? X4 more practical than a 5 series? GLC loads more room than an E Class?

Hence my point that many SUV drivers don't 'need' them and living in Surrey and seeing so many pootling to the shops I stand by that point.

Fast Bug

7,241 posts

106 months

Saturday 24th August
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Alex_225 said:
Nissan Juke more practical than a Ford Focus? X4 more practical than a 5 series? GLC loads more room than an E Class?
You've got your classes mixed up a bit there, Juke is probably more Fiesta size, X4 is 3 series sized and GLC is C Class.

The GLC actually is roomier than the C Class as it's a touch wider. My mother is getting on a bit these days and finds the GLC easier to get in and out of than she does a C or E Class

0a

21,438 posts

139 months

Saturday 24th August
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I think that the issue is that SUVs are big, high cars. Convertible cars are often judged by how they look - their grace and style. Trying to make a convertible roofline work with a big, high car, results it it looking like a roll top bath or a skip.

TwigtheWonderkid

29,631 posts

95 months

Saturday 24th August
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I am genuinely gobsmacked by this thread, that people can get genuinely angry over a car they don't like. There's loads of cars I don't like, but if other people like them and get pleasure from them, good luck to them. People like foods I don't like, sports I don't like. People are individuals, and like different things. I can't get angry about something that has no impact of me whatsoever.

And if everybody liked what I like, demand would be higher and so would the price. So people not liking what i like are doing me a favour.


Sporky

321 posts

9 months

Saturday 24th August
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0a said:
I think that the issue is that SUVs are big, high cars. Convertible cars are often judged by how they look - their grace and style. Trying to make a convertible roofline work with a big, high car, results it it looking like a roll top bath or a skip.
Roll top baths are very in.

0a

21,438 posts

139 months

Saturday 24th August
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Sporky said:
0a said:
I think that the issue is that SUVs are big, high cars. Convertible cars are often judged by how they look - their grace and style. Trying to make a convertible roofline work with a big, high car, results it it looking like a roll top bath or a skip.
Roll top baths are very in.
I love them. Can't beat a good bath.

MGirl

49 posts

6 months

Saturday 24th August
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I was well up for an evoque convertible. I love the Range Rover sport we have and as I’ve driven convertibles for the past 13 years i find myself drawn to them over the standard offerings. We were at the local land rover dealer looking at the current full fat and sports last year and I took a seat in the evoque convertible. It felt nice but then my other half made a comment and took a picture which summed it up......I looked like I was sitting in a bath! Unfortunately the higher ride height along with the taller doors and seating position mean you’re barely shoulders and head above the door line. So apart from every one I’ve seen on the road has the roof up, I always think it’s a bathtub on wheels.

I mean if someone said here this is a few grand would I have one, yup of course I would because I would love just to see what it’s like but paying top dollar, em no. Thinking about it, I’ve taken the sport over som e really rouged terrain, the kind that makes you think it might topple over and it’s not......but would I want to do that in a suv with a fabric roof? Hell no. It’s not really a SUV then is it?

Sporky

321 posts

9 months

Saturday 24th August
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I always thought the only problem with the Evoque convertible is that it makes the people in it look tiny. Something about the proportions makes it look smaller than it is.

See?


DonkeyApple

34,446 posts

114 months

Saturday 24th August
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0a said:
I think that the issue is that SUVs are big, high cars. Convertible cars are often judged by how they look - their grace and style. Trying to make a convertible roofline work with a big, high car, results it it looking like a roll top bath or a skip.
This is true but making a convertible from any automotive shape can tend to be a bit hit or miss, visually. Just think of hatchbacks that have gone soft top like the Focus!!! And in terms of heritage there are plenty of 4x4s that look great as open tops.

LuS1fer

35,315 posts

190 months

Saturday 24th August
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It's not hate, it's ridicule.

DonkeyApple

34,446 posts

114 months

Saturday 24th August
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Sporky said:
I always thought the only problem with the Evoque convertible is that it makes the people in it look tiny. Something about the proportions makes it look smaller than it is.

See?

The chap does look like a pint pot Latino to start with. It’s probably fair to say that the slab sided Evogie does not flatter the short arse chap.

Maxym

928 posts

181 months

Sunday 25th August
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0a said:
I love them. Can't beat a good bath.
I'd take cover if I were you. Could be worth a whole new thread. biggrin