RE: Vauxhall Monaro | The Brave Pill

[mfp4073]

ATM said:

The ls1 I had in my e46 felt a bit unhappy above about 5500 so I didn't bother revving much higher than that. It had a bit of a hotter cam and some other bits and bobs. The amg 6.2 red lines at 8000. That's an awesome engine.

5500rpm is just below the rev limit on a standard LS1 so it sound like yours may have been a bit off. With a few choice parts and a good tune you can rev these engines way beyond that.
Personally I'm not one to push things anywhere near the red line, I just ride the torque wave.
Having said that if you rev out a 6.2 amg to 8000rpm that must sound fantastic. Obviously if I tried that there would be a loud bang....then as I pulled over to the side of the road my bank balance would implode!!!!!!

[Kubevoid]

You don't necessarily need huge revs at all. An original Cobra 427 sounds better at a mere tick over than any AMG at full chat, imo. Headphones on, volume up...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF8An64G2eo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkKdK3ud7Wc&fe...

Or the Chevy V8... drool...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwQLyZYWR4I&fe...


German V8s sound like pants compared to the real deal. High revs or not.

Edited by Kubevoid on Saturday 31st August 16:23

[99t]

ATM said:

The ls1 I had in my e46 felt a bit unhappy above about 5500 so I didn't bother revving much higher than that. It had a bit of a hotter cam and some other bits and bobs. The amg 6.2 red lines at 8000. That's an awesome engine.

Sounds like there was something wrong with the setup of that engine then, the LS1 in my CV8 is one of the lowest output LS variants, but it still pulls hardest the closer it gets to the red line, whilst making a great noise - this with 236k miles on a completely untouched engine

[anonymous-user]

Kubevoid said:

You don't necessarily need huge revs at all. An original Cobra 427 sounds better at a mere tick over than any AMG at full chat, imo. Headphones on, volume up...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF8An64G2eo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkKdK3ud7Wc&fe...

Or the Chevy V8... drool...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwQLyZYWR4I&fe...


German V8s sound like pants compared to the real deal. High revs or not.

Edited by Kubevoid on Saturday 31st August 16:23

Agreed or Monaro (LS2 + exhaust): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htvTzFx2zuU

[Kubevoid]

Lovely

Only American V8s can produce such a sensational sound. Anything else is a very poor copy. If those sounds don't make your hairs stand up and bring a tear to your eyes, you are dead inside. Numbers and stats mean little compared to the sheer emotion of those sounds. German nerds with their calipers and spread sheets of MPG kinda miss the point

[anonymous-user]

Another one for the German whips to think about: http://hennesseyperformance.com/2019-zr1-chevrolet...

[fiju]

Kubevoid said:

German V8s sound like pants compared to the real deal. High revs or not.

I dunno man. People in this country don't tend to modify engines like the yanks do. There may be the small minority, but it's mostly weedy little 4 and 6 cylinder cars. But don't dismiss the German v8's until you've heard one modified properly. A pair of long tube manifolds, straight through exhaust, proper induction setup, and cams. Those mercedes m113's can sound just as gnarly as anything.

[ATM]

I watched that hyper drive thing on Netflix. I think a lot of those cars have BMW v8. Some are supercharged too. I'm thinking e39 m5 engines for some reason.

[Kubevoid]

wormus said:

Another one for the German whips to think about: http://hennesseyperformance.com/2019-zr1-chevrolet...

That is immense. A RHD conversion of that in dark grey would be killer.

[selym]

As always it's horses for courses but I love my Monaro and can't see it going anywhere ever....

[anonymous-user]

wormus said:

Another one for the German whips to think about: http://hennesseyperformance.com/2019-zr1-chevrolet...

‘Whips’

Not much bravery required, bullet proof engine, straight forward old school muscle car.

[unsprung]

Is there any contest?

I mean: the US market is a veritable cornucopia of choice, personalisation, and opportunity, and much of this for people on ordinary household incomes. It's available "top down" from OEMs and "bottom up" from tuners and fans of DIY. People have large driveways and two-car garages. Endless related television programmes, forums, blogs, and social media.

Go to Europe, in contrast, and it's utter crickets. A couple of rich blokes, many with inherited money, running cars that few on any continent could afford.

Night and day, really.

[siovey]

Loved mine, a stunning car . I bought it with every mod already fitted , including the supercharger. 550bhp. Lovely. Managed to see 3.8 mpg on the readout when giving it some beans. Unfortunately it had an intermittent fault with the engine that no one could seem to fix and I ended up virtually giving it away. I had it for about 2 years and I reckon running it cost me about £600 per month to do 10k miles p/a.

[anonymous-user]

unsprung said:

Is there any contest?

I mean: the US market is a veritable cornucopia of choice, personalisation, and opportunity, and much of this for people on ordinary household incomes. It's available "top down" from OEMs and "bottom up" from tuners and fans of DIY. People have large driveways and two-car garages. Endless related television programmes, forums, blogs, and social media.

Go to Europe, in contrast, and it's utter crickets. A couple of rich blokes, many with inherited money, running cars that few on any continent could afford.

Night and day, really.

Biggest sellers in the US, trucks and Honda Accords. Yep, they’re the enlightened ones alright

[gareth h]

Kubevoid said:

You don't necessarily need huge revs at all. An original Cobra 427 sounds better at a mere tick over than any AMG at full chat, imo. Headphones on, volume up...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF8An64G2eo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkKdK3ud7Wc&fe...

Or the Chevy V8... drool...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwQLyZYWR4I&fe...


German V8s sound like pants compared to the real deal. High revs or not.

Edited by Kubevoid on Saturday 31st August 16:23

I beg to differ! I had an 04 VXR with exhaust which was fruity, but nothing like my Aero 8 with side pipes which is completely epic.