The ask an MOT tester thread
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Quick one, went for a mot 7 months ago, failed on a few minor things but required some parts shipped from abroad so it ended up sitting. When it goes back would you view it more as a retest with checking the main things but not everything as its done less than 10 miles in that time or would it be basically a full test again?
Realise I am paying full price either way and not bothered but wondered how YOU would view it not just what the mot rules say as we all know they dont get followed the same by each tester.
Realise I am paying full price either way and not bothered but wondered how YOU would view it not just what the mot rules say as we all know they dont get followed the same by each tester.
Divieto di Sosta said:
Athlon said:
Divieto di Sosta said:
There's a thread about a bloke pulled for excessively tinted front side windows , does an MOT tester have the same
testing equipment that the police have , to check the % of light that the windows allow through ?
Thanks .
No, that's a construction and use issue. We can fail if the tint is dark enough to affect your vision of the mirrors.testing equipment that the police have , to check the % of light that the windows allow through ?
Thanks .
Slow said:
Quick one, went for a mot 7 months ago, failed on a few minor things but required some parts shipped from abroad so it ended up sitting. When it goes back would you view it more as a retest with checking the main things but not everything as its done less than 10 miles in that time or would it be basically a full test again?
Realise I am paying full price either way and not bothered but wondered how YOU would view it not just what the mot rules say as we all know they dont get followed the same by each tester.
I would test it as if it was the first test. After 7 months things can corrode/seize/stop working. Realise I am paying full price either way and not bothered but wondered how YOU would view it not just what the mot rules say as we all know they dont get followed the same by each tester.
stevemcs said:
For us, people come to you based on trust, your reputation for a fair mot - as odd as it sounds some want to know whats wrong,
Seems perfectly reasonable to me. I try to look after my cars, but having someone give everything a proper wiggle annually is great. One tester even apologised for having to fail one of my old cars on its (unbalanced) brakes - the last thing he tested - and was surprised when I thanked him for pointing it out!And trust is exactly where I am with my local garage. I don't ask how much it's going to be, he often doesn't let me know the invoice amount until a week or three after I've picked the car up. It's always less than I feared, and he always gets paid as soon as I know how much!
As it happens, they discount their MOTs. But it wouldn't matter if they didn't. He also squeezed me in just before Christmas when I cocked up my timing for MOT expiry, so he got a nice bottle of red too
StescoG66 said:
Sorry, another query.
Speedometer has chucked it again. Thought I had sorted it but alas no. Is this tested?
Yes. Major fail. Speedometer has chucked it again. Thought I had sorted it but alas no. Is this tested?
7.8. Speedometer
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You must check the speedometer of vehicles first used on or after 1 October 1937 with a maximum speed above 25mph. You do not need to check Class 3 vehicles.
If a road test is needed, for example to carry out a decelerometer test, you must check whilst driving that the speedometer is working.
If a road test is not necessary, you should only reject a speedometer if it’s clearly not working.
Speedometers do not need to be lit on:
vehicles with no front or rear position lamps
vehicles that have front or rear positions lamps that are permanently disconnected, painted over or masked
You can accept a tachograph as an alternative to a speedometer if it satisfies the requirements of this inspection.
Defect Category
(a) Speedometer not fitted where one is required Major
(b) Speedometer:
(i) operation impaired
(ii) not working
Minor
Major
(c) Speedometer:
(i) not sufficiently illuminated
(ii) not illuminated
Minor
Major
MG CHRIS said:
Beacuse it will stop garages charging £20 per MOT and screwing over customers with looking for faults and also screwing over other garages who charge the correct amount. In my opinion MOT shouldn't be allowed at private garages it should be done in dvsa sites but that's just my opinion.
My local charges me £20 and never screws me over with anything, why should I pay £50 just because some places have higher overheads?Slow said:
flyingflea said:
Not a tester but assuming there’s no wire showing I would assume it will pass.Pica-Pica said:
Slow said:
Forget the tyre, something is amiss. It was not originally designed for potential contact. Something has failed, or some modifications have been made that have reduced the designed clearance.PhillipM said:
My local charges me £20 and never screws me over with anything, why should I pay £50 just because some places have higher overheads?
It is obviously difficult to comment without knowing the set up of the business but I cannot see how it makes any money at £20.00. You are clearly happy with the service you get though and if it works for them, happy days.Slow said:
Pica-Pica said:
Slow said:
Forget the tyre, something is amiss. It was not originally designed for potential contact. Something has failed, or some modifications have been made that have reduced the designed clearance.Friend has used a local MOT place for donkeys, do the extended families too, they are the sort with the XX name XX plate spelling her name on an X3, they never get them serviced just MOT'd, its a 65 plate 20d with a EML light on, they took it to him the other week and he cleared the fault FOC for them but didn't look what it was, it came back on 5 mins later and its still on now.
When it goes for MOT they are anticipating him clearing the code and doing the test meaning it will pass, he already turns a blind eye to the plate every year, its a decent sized garage, question is can this be ignored or is it traceable so to speak?
When it goes for MOT they are anticipating him clearing the code and doing the test meaning it will pass, he already turns a blind eye to the plate every year, its a decent sized garage, question is can this be ignored or is it traceable so to speak?
jonwm said:
Friend has used a local MOT place for donkeys, do the extended families too, they are the sort with the XX name XX plate spelling her name on an X3, they never get them serviced just MOT'd, its a 65 plate 20d with a EML light on, they took it to him the other week and he cleared the fault FOC for them but didn't look what it was, it came back on 5 mins later and its still on now.
When it goes for MOT they are anticipating him clearing the code and doing the test meaning it will pass, he already turns a blind eye to the plate every year, its a decent sized garage, question is can this be ignored or is it traceable so to speak?
For us it depends, we would fail the car on the light being on, we would then scan the car, print the codes and clear them, if the light stays off we will run it around the block, if it stays off they will get a passWhen it goes for MOT they are anticipating him clearing the code and doing the test meaning it will pass, he already turns a blind eye to the plate every year, its a decent sized garage, question is can this be ignored or is it traceable so to speak?
They really should get the light checked though, at some point it will cost them a large sum
As for the tyre, it looks to me like the spring has started to tear into the tyre, any cuts like that in the sidewall we would want to replace the tyre if the owner didn’t want to do it they can take the car elsewhere for repair.
Little Pete said:
Slow said:
Quick one, went for a mot 7 months ago, failed on a few minor things but required some parts shipped from abroad so it ended up sitting. When it goes back would you view it more as a retest with checking the main things but not everything as its done less than 10 miles in that time or would it be basically a full test again?
Realise I am paying full price either way and not bothered but wondered how YOU would view it not just what the mot rules say as we all know they dont get followed the same by each tester.
I would test it as if it was the first test. After 7 months things can corrode/seize/stop working. Realise I am paying full price either way and not bothered but wondered how YOU would view it not just what the mot rules say as we all know they dont get followed the same by each tester.
There is, but was also missing last time and he never mentioned it. Being an import I didnt think any emissions systems mattered as long as it passes the emissions bit of the test which he refused to do due to missing cat - passed this bit last time.
Edit: To add to this he said just stick something in place that looks like it works and he will pass it...
Edited by Slow on Thursday 14th April 21:39
Slow said:
Well he passed it on everything it failed on last time. Except now he reckons there is a missing cat.
There is, but was also missing last time and he never mentioned it. Being an import I didnt think any emissions systems mattered as long as it passes the emissions bit of the test which he refused to do due to missing cat - passed this bit last time.
Edit: To add to this he said just stick something in place that looks like it works and he will pass it...
IIRC the "emissions equipment obviously missing" is a separate subsection to the test limits themselves, along with the "exhaust leaks" failure criteria.There is, but was also missing last time and he never mentioned it. Being an import I didnt think any emissions systems mattered as long as it passes the emissions bit of the test which he refused to do due to missing cat - passed this bit last time.
Edit: To add to this he said just stick something in place that looks like it works and he will pass it...
Edited by Slow on Thursday 14th April 21:39
So if it blatantly has a decat, I think technically he is correct to fail it for that, even if it would pass the emissions requirements, as they're separate test items.
Though I agree it's a bit silly.
As for why he didn't do it last time, maybe in the intervening period he has been given advice/guidance/a severe bking on the subject.
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