The ask an MOT tester thread

The ask an MOT tester thread

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MG CHRIS

9,081 posts

167 months

Saturday 26th October 2019
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borcy said:
What's the going rate/wage for an MoT tester, obviously regional dependent but ball park?
Usually £11 per hour plus depending on area. There are few free lance tester through agency that will go where garages need them they earn good money usually £14 per hour after they deduct tax etc.
Most garages or dealerships will look for techs with additional pay for techs with mot license etc most do a mix of both from experience very few are mot only.

Little Pete

1,533 posts

94 months

Saturday 26th October 2019
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DaveH23 said:
I've dipped in and out this thread so haven't seen every question but do testers look at previous advisories before testing?

I ask as I have always used the same garage and something that was an advisory last year isn't this year yet I haven't sorted it yet.

I believe alot of the MOT Is the opinion of the tester so can understand why, but just curious if checking the prior advisories is something that happens?
I do quite often. It is nice to see when advisories have been sorted. It’s also surprising how often you remember a car from the previous test. I tested a BMW yesterday and failed it on rear pads and near side rear tyre. I was sure I’d advised them last year so I checked, and I had. I was feeling pleased with myself at my good memory but my wife just thought it was sad!

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

163 months

Saturday 26th October 2019
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Same bloke has tested mine 3 years in a row.

He didn't look at previous advisories but still advised the windscreen crack even after I stuck a big sticker over it.

Crack not in wiper swept area.

He's also advised more welding likely required on the floor in 2020.

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

123 months

Saturday 26th October 2019
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Given how many cars have badly/illegal no plates on them,what happens at test time ? I’d be amazed if 100,000’s drivers have duplicate proper plates and swap them ?

Athlon

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5,011 posts

206 months

Saturday 26th October 2019
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austinsmirk said:
Given how many cars have badly/illegal no plates on them,what happens at test time ? I’d be amazed if 100,000’s drivers have duplicate proper plates and swap them ?
If I spot them before the test I will advise the owner it is going to fail if I log it on as it is, gives them the option to sort it out, otherwise the car fails.

davidc1

1,545 posts

162 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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Well my car initially failed today for headlight beam alignment.
Then the tester must have sat in the car and adjusted the beam via the small wheel behind the steering wheel and it passed. WTF.
As long as it is ok after adjustment within the car , surely this is ok and no need to give a fail....
Thoughts?

Athlon

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5,011 posts

206 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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davidc1 said:
Well my car initially failed today for headlight beam alignment.
Then the tester must have sat in the car and adjusted the beam via the small wheel behind the steering wheel and it passed. WTF.
As long as it is ok after adjustment within the car , surely this is ok and no need to give a fail....
Thoughts?
It should not fail, if the beam is low we can check the inner adjuster and set it to another level , there is a 'non component advisory' to alert the owner to the fact we have moved the wheel to another setting. No need to fail or PRS it really.

stevemcs

8,653 posts

93 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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Sounds more like the headlight aim was out.

Fastpedeller

3,872 posts

146 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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Athlon said:
davidc1 said:
Well my car initially failed today for headlight beam alignment.
Then the tester must have sat in the car and adjusted the beam via the small wheel behind the steering wheel and it passed. WTF.
As long as it is ok after adjustment within the car , surely this is ok and no need to give a fail....
Thoughts?
It should not fail, if the beam is low we can check the inner adjuster and set it to another level , there is a 'non component advisory' to alert the owner to the fact we have moved the wheel to another setting. No need to fail or PRS it really.
Isn't it usual to test the lights on the zero setting? With rear seat passengers added the driver (should) adjust to the correct setting using the guidance (handbook) or numbers referring to passengers to maintain 'normal' height. If the beam height is corrected by using the small wheel to get it lower, then when rear seat passengers are added it may not be possible to achieve a legal height?

JakeT

5,425 posts

120 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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Fastpedeller said:
Isn't it usual to test the lights on the zero setting? With rear seat passengers added the driver (should) adjust to the correct setting using the guidance (handbook) or numbers referring to passengers to maintain 'normal' height. If the beam height is corrected by using the small wheel to get it lower, then when rear seat passengers are added it may not be possible to achieve a legal height?
I think that's the point Athlon was making. If someone has set them low with the internal adjuster, they can be adjusted up, but if they're too low via mechanical adjustment, it's a fail, and then an adjustment to sort them. It's not uncommon to see tests with the advisory:

Vehicle's internal headlight adjuster altered to recheck lights

Which is a CMA advisory for the tester.

Athlon

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5,011 posts

206 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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JakeT said:
Fastpedeller said:
Isn't it usual to test the lights on the zero setting? With rear seat passengers added the driver (should) adjust to the correct setting using the guidance (handbook) or numbers referring to passengers to maintain 'normal' height. If the beam height is corrected by using the small wheel to get it lower, then when rear seat passengers are added it may not be possible to achieve a legal height?
I think that's the point Athlon was making. If someone has set them low with the internal adjuster, they can be adjusted up, but if they're too low via mechanical adjustment, it's a fail, and then an adjustment to sort them. It's not uncommon to see tests with the advisory:

Vehicle's internal headlight adjuster altered to recheck lights

Which is a CMA advisory for the tester.
yesthumbup

davidc1

1,545 posts

162 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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Thanks for the replies.
Car is a Seat Mii .
The fail notice says repair immediately :headlamp aim too high 4.1.2

Then goes on to say:monitor and repair if necessary: vehicles internal headlight adjuster altered to recheck the lights.

Seems very suspect to me.like they need to bump up the quota of fails or something...

stevemcs

8,653 posts

93 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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There are no quotas to hit for failures or passes for that matter

ging84

8,885 posts

146 months

Tuesday 29th October 2019
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stevemcs said:
There are no quotas to hit for failures or passes for that matter
I suspect that doesn't stop some testers or garage owners believing it will help keep them off the dvsa radar

Athlon

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5,011 posts

206 months

Tuesday 29th October 2019
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That should have been a fail. Then using the PRS scheme they could have adjusted the headlamps correctly, they should not have used the internal adjuster to move them.

Nothing will stop the DVSA having a look at a tester, by keeping green it helps them know that in theory you are doing it right but they will still get around to looking at them.

sparkythecat

7,902 posts

255 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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What do you think of this advisory?

Eyersey1234

2,898 posts

79 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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sparkythecat said:
What do you think of this advisory?
I know testers can advise pretty much what they want but that seems a bit silly lol

Athlon

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5,011 posts

206 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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IF it is real and it gets picked up by the DVSA I think it would end with a reprimand at best.

Advisories are there to help owners of cars understand there may be an upcoming issue they need to consider resolving, abuse of the system is frowned on however funny the tester thinks it is.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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Tester a mate of the customer?

Who me ?

7,455 posts

212 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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aU CONTRAIR- I'd suggest that advisories are put on the MOT to show monitoring that tester has/is doing his job.
I've had this one for the life of the car ,starting whn the car was tested forsome reason when it was two year old "
Nearside Front brake disc slightly pitted (3.5.1h)
Offside Front brake disc slightly pitted (3.5.1h)
at 14k. I've had this one on and off for the past good few years. I've had the discs checked by RAC, who told me that it's only the unswept part of the disc that has excess material. Of course tester cannot measure the disc, but I can and it's over the min thickness, but this is not enough to prevent an advisory.
Then again I also get "Central Front Lower under tray fitted" or " Child seat fitted not allowing full inspection of adult belt" .