RE: Honda Civic Type R (FN2) | PH Used Review
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Nice, what mods have you done to take it to 250? and what diet items?
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Weight saving includes: rear seats gone, front bucket seat, air con removal, race battery, lighter wheels and brakes, balance shaft delete, standard cat (heavy) gone and single exit exhaust.
Power from: Skunk2 CAI, bigger throttle body, JDM inlet mani, cams and oil pump (mega improvement to the sluggish revving from balance shafts), exhaust mani and a 3in (loud!) exhaust. LSD to use the power too.
Once the above is done they're really good.
Nice, what mods have you done to take it to 250? and what diet items?
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Weight saving includes: rear seats gone, front bucket seat, air con removal, race battery, lighter wheels and brakes, balance shaft delete, standard cat (heavy) gone and single exit exhaust.
Power from: Skunk2 CAI, bigger throttle body, JDM inlet mani, cams and oil pump (mega improvement to the sluggish revving from balance shafts), exhaust mani and a 3in (loud!) exhaust. LSD to use the power too.
Once the above is done they're really good.
TommyBoy said:
Weight saving includes: rear seats gone, front bucket seat, air con removal, race battery, lighter wheels and brakes, balance shaft delete, standard cat (heavy) gone and single exit exhaust.
Power from: Skunk2 CAI, bigger throttle body, JDM inlet mani, cams and oil pump (mega improvement to the sluggish revving from balance shafts), exhaust mani and a 3in (loud!) exhaust. LSD to use the power too.
Once the above is done they're really good.
On a K100? Or a KPro?Power from: Skunk2 CAI, bigger throttle body, JDM inlet mani, cams and oil pump (mega improvement to the sluggish revving from balance shafts), exhaust mani and a 3in (loud!) exhaust. LSD to use the power too.
Once the above is done they're really good.
I like mine. Hated it when i first bought it but that was due to buying it from cowboys (lots of valuable lessons learned about "car supermarkets" and anything near the M1 corridor) however once i un-done all their f
kups im very much enjoying it.
Mine is a bit tatty, already had a miltek exhaust and a pipercross intake for maximum yob factor but once you get used to the comically bad ride quality it is a great fun car and an absolute bargin at the moment imo.
I did 1,000 miles in 4 days (mostly at 8000rpm
) around wales and it didnt skip a beat!
kups im very much enjoying it. Mine is a bit tatty, already had a miltek exhaust and a pipercross intake for maximum yob factor but once you get used to the comically bad ride quality it is a great fun car and an absolute bargin at the moment imo.
I did 1,000 miles in 4 days (mostly at 8000rpm
) around wales and it didnt skip a beat!TypeRTim said:
Matt Wills said:
How many Renaultsport's have you actually owned?
None of mine rattled or were unreliable and they were used on track loads.
It's a rubbish car hence why no one wants them.
Never owned one myself, the interior design and finish put me off completely, plus the horror stories of rogue electrics on some cars. I wasn't prepared to take that gamble as electrics can be a bugger to trace where the actual fault is.None of mine rattled or were unreliable and they were used on track loads.
It's a rubbish car hence why no one wants them.
Very glad you had such a nice experience with yours.
I remember my Dad's Renault 19 16v sport. Terrible car. Uncomfortable, unreliable and slow. But then he had just changed from a mk.2 Jetta GTi 16v, a bulletproof rocketship in comparison.
The FN2 is not a rubbish car. In many ways it is better than an EP3 - better steering (you can actually feel what's going on), much better interior, more comfortable, more civilised, more practical, less of a chavvy image (how many EP3s do you see going around with a 4" dustbin exhaust?) and better value for money.
Many people slate the FN2 and mostly for its suspension and ride, but they absolutely love the FD2. The FD has approximately as much give in its suspension as an iron girder thanks to being set up for super smooth japanese roads.
No car is perfect - they all have faults, quirks and annoyances. But to say the FN2 is rubbish is disingenuous.
Go and drive a Renaultsport Clio any of them will do and it will run rings around a FN2.
I'm glad you like your car. Its even part of your username but please don't make out there a great hot hatch as there not.
cerb4.5lee said:
I've always preferred the looks of these compared to the EP3 and the EP3 just looked very plain/ordinary to my eyes. These seem a really good value car and I toyed with getting one a couple of years ago.
I really like the shape but I don't think that the performance lives up to the looks. I remember out dragging one off the lights in my E90 330i and that was a much heavier car. I expected this to see the 330i off pretty easily.
I usually base my car purchases off of racing e90 330i's also which is why i'd never buy a hondaI really like the shape but I don't think that the performance lives up to the looks. I remember out dragging one off the lights in my E90 330i and that was a much heavier car. I expected this to see the 330i off pretty easily.
Matt Wills said:
A Renault 19 16V is hardly a fair comparison as it's what late 90's?
Go and drive a Renaultsport Clio any of them will do and it will run rings around a FN2.
I'm glad you like your car. Its even part of your username but please don't make out there a great hot hatch as there not.
Merely saying as one of the reasons I didn't go for a Renault over the Honda. As well as that the Clio was too small, I didn't like the interior or exterior styling of the Megane, the Megane didn't come with anywhere near the same amount of kit as the FN2 in my price range (or when new) and as a second hand proposition, the FN2 was a far safer bet for reliability. Plus N/A vs Turbo. I don't like the turbo power delivery or the dull exhaust note due to the lack of revs.Go and drive a Renaultsport Clio any of them will do and it will run rings around a FN2.
I'm glad you like your car. Its even part of your username but please don't make out there a great hot hatch as there not.
FN2s are a very, very good hot hatch. They're not the best, but I have never said that they are. However, they are not terrible as you seem to constantly say.
Flashpro, but if I was doing it now it'd definitely be ECUTEK.
vtecyo said:
TommyBoy said:
Weight saving includes: rear seats gone, front bucket seat, air con removal, race battery, lighter wheels and brakes, balance shaft delete, standard cat (heavy) gone and single exit exhaust.
Power from: Skunk2 CAI, bigger throttle body, JDM inlet mani, cams and oil pump (mega improvement to the sluggish revving from balance shafts), exhaust mani and a 3in (loud!) exhaust. LSD to use the power too.
Once the above is done they're really good.
On a K100? Or a KPro?Power from: Skunk2 CAI, bigger throttle body, JDM inlet mani, cams and oil pump (mega improvement to the sluggish revving from balance shafts), exhaust mani and a 3in (loud!) exhaust. LSD to use the power too.
Once the above is done they're really good.
TypeRTim said:
Matt Wills said:
A Renault 19 16V is hardly a fair comparison as it's what late 90's?
Go and drive a Renaultsport Clio any of them will do and it will run rings around a FN2.
I'm glad you like your car. Its even part of your username but please don't make out there a great hot hatch as there not.
Merely saying as one of the reasons I didn't go for a Renault over the Honda. As well as that the Clio was too small, I didn't like the interior or exterior styling of the Megane, the Megane didn't come with anywhere near the same amount of kit as the FN2 in my price range (or when new) and as a second hand proposition, the FN2 was a far safer bet for reliability. Plus N/A vs Turbo. I don't like the turbo power delivery or the dull exhaust note due to the lack of revs.Go and drive a Renaultsport Clio any of them will do and it will run rings around a FN2.
I'm glad you like your car. Its even part of your username but please don't make out there a great hot hatch as there not.
FN2s are a very, very good hot hatch. They're not the best, but I have never said that they are. However, they are not terrible as you seem to constantly say.
May I suggest you try a Megane RS250 or newer when your looking to replace your car as I think you will be shocked at how good they are.
TommyBoy said:
Weight saving includes: rear seats gone, front bucket seat, air con removal, race battery, lighter wheels and brakes, balance shaft delete, standard cat (heavy) gone and single exit exhaust.
Power from: Skunk2 CAI, bigger throttle body, JDM inlet mani, cams and oil pump (mega improvement to the sluggish revving from balance shafts), exhaust mani and a 3in (loud!) exhaust. LSD to use the power too.
Once the above is done they're really good.
Is it a ticking time-bomb now it's missing the balance shafts? Never heard of that for a road engine.Power from: Skunk2 CAI, bigger throttle body, JDM inlet mani, cams and oil pump (mega improvement to the sluggish revving from balance shafts), exhaust mani and a 3in (loud!) exhaust. LSD to use the power too.
Once the above is done they're really good.
No. It uses the oil pump from the Japanese version of the car (FD2). The balance shafts were added to the European car's oil pump to meet some EU vibration requirement. They smooth it out but add parasitic weight to the engine.
Krikkit said:
TommyBoy said:
Weight saving includes: rear seats gone, front bucket seat, air con removal, race battery, lighter wheels and brakes, balance shaft delete, standard cat (heavy) gone and single exit exhaust.
Power from: Skunk2 CAI, bigger throttle body, JDM inlet mani, cams and oil pump (mega improvement to the sluggish revving from balance shafts), exhaust mani and a 3in (loud!) exhaust. LSD to use the power too.
Once the above is done they're really good.
Is it a ticking time-bomb now it's missing the balance shafts? Never heard of that for a road engine.Power from: Skunk2 CAI, bigger throttle body, JDM inlet mani, cams and oil pump (mega improvement to the sluggish revving from balance shafts), exhaust mani and a 3in (loud!) exhaust. LSD to use the power too.
Once the above is done they're really good.
Matt Wills said:
TypeRTim said:
Matt Wills said:
A Renault 19 16V is hardly a fair comparison as it's what late 90's?
Go and drive a Renaultsport Clio any of them will do and it will run rings around a FN2.
I'm glad you like your car. Its even part of your username but please don't make out there a great hot hatch as there not.
Merely saying as one of the reasons I didn't go for a Renault over the Honda. As well as that the Clio was too small, I didn't like the interior or exterior styling of the Megane, the Megane didn't come with anywhere near the same amount of kit as the FN2 in my price range (or when new) and as a second hand proposition, the FN2 was a far safer bet for reliability. Plus N/A vs Turbo. I don't like the turbo power delivery or the dull exhaust note due to the lack of revs.Go and drive a Renaultsport Clio any of them will do and it will run rings around a FN2.
I'm glad you like your car. Its even part of your username but please don't make out there a great hot hatch as there not.
FN2s are a very, very good hot hatch. They're not the best, but I have never said that they are. However, they are not terrible as you seem to constantly say.
May I suggest you try a Megane RS250 or newer when your looking to replace your car as I think you will be shocked at how good they are.
The chassis is an absolute masterpiece however - certainly can't deny that. Had the cup pack on mine and the cornering speeds were just ridiculous, even in the wet.
Having bought a new EP3 CTR in 2005 and getting rid just 8 months later I always felt that it was a one trick pony. Fabulous engine and gearbox, decent handling, average straight line speed, rubbish steering and, at times, mediocre front end grip.
The fact that its replacement was heavier, no more powerful and had an inferior rear suspension set up leaves me totally cold.
The fact that its replacement was heavier, no more powerful and had an inferior rear suspension set up leaves me totally cold.
Matt Wills said:
I'll choose to disagree with you but as long as your happy with your car that's all that matters.
May I suggest you try a Megane RS250 or newer when your looking to replace your car as I think you will be shocked at how good they are.
Fair enough.May I suggest you try a Megane RS250 or newer when your looking to replace your car as I think you will be shocked at how good they are.
I've already had to replace it with something boring, diesel and family orientated due to my work commute now and kid on the way.
If I'm ever in the market for a bit more of a toy again though, I'll have a look in Dieppe's direction. Although tbh, if i was going to get anything from Dieppe as a toy, it would probably be a Clio v6 as they just tick all the right nutcase boxes! I don't go on track often enough to fully exploit a chassis so the hilarity of a mid-engined, rear driven supermini with a 3.0 motor really appeals!
Great everyday hatch, huge boot and rear legroom, interior nice place too be, lots of spec for not much money.
Pick one up for 3.5k - New exhaust, induction, Hondata ECU flash and a FRS with new springs and I'm sure it becomes very capable with a great engine, gearbox and reliability on top to boot. You'll still be under the 5k mark too.
Pick one up for 3.5k - New exhaust, induction, Hondata ECU flash and a FRS with new springs and I'm sure it becomes very capable with a great engine, gearbox and reliability on top to boot. You'll still be under the 5k mark too.
I've owned mine for a few months now. Loved it when I was younger and it was first released but didn't learn to drive until 2017! I love every minute driving it.
I have a black one with the 19" alloys and a sport exhaust system. It is a bit dead in the mid-range but I see this as a car to tune nowadays due to how cheap they can be. Vtec can be tuned to kick in at 4500 revs for example. Big fan pages out there trading performance parts for cheap prices.
Id say if you're sticking with stock there's probably better options out there. If you're interested in tuning or customising the car, I don't think you could do better in the price range. There are just so many options and the car is absolutely transformed if you map it with even just a couple basic mods (air intake, exhaust, suspension) and the bodywork mods you can buy for a few hundred are gorgeous for the most part.
I have a black one with the 19" alloys and a sport exhaust system. It is a bit dead in the mid-range but I see this as a car to tune nowadays due to how cheap they can be. Vtec can be tuned to kick in at 4500 revs for example. Big fan pages out there trading performance parts for cheap prices.
Id say if you're sticking with stock there's probably better options out there. If you're interested in tuning or customising the car, I don't think you could do better in the price range. There are just so many options and the car is absolutely transformed if you map it with even just a couple basic mods (air intake, exhaust, suspension) and the bodywork mods you can buy for a few hundred are gorgeous for the most part.
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