RE: Porsche Taycan | Official reveal!

RE: Porsche Taycan | Official reveal!

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austinsmirk

3,842 posts

81 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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mstrbkr said:
"there are a couple of gaps in the battery-packed floor to create rear footwells"

If this is true laugh

So rear passengers have their feet in essentially a bucket instead of tucked under the front seats?
lets be honest, more than one car has been built now with a strange hump all the way down the middle to accommodate the prop shaft, for a few years now smile

mstrbkr

7,825 posts

156 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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austinsmirk said:
mstrbkr said:
"there are a couple of gaps in the battery-packed floor to create rear footwells"

If this is true laugh

So rear passengers have their feet in essentially a bucket instead of tucked under the front seats?
lets be honest, more than one car has been built now with a strange hump all the way down the middle to accommodate the prop shaft, for a few years now smile
That's not what the article implies though. That's batteries in a centre tunnel; it is not two gaps in the entire floor to create foot wells! I suspect it's just badly written.

Jumpingjackflash

405 posts

137 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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The turbo model name is ridiculous. I do find electric cars interesting but I would like to wait and found out about the lifespan of the batteries and how it affects residual values.

I had a Mercedes E-class hybrid and it didn’t manage to average 30mpg.

In the meantime I will stick with my 6.0 v12 Rapide S. ( back seats of he Taycan look just as roomy as the Rapide lol)

Julian Thompson

1,700 posts

196 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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DeltonaS said:
The side profile:

Makes the Panamera look like the pig ugly lump that it is....

simonbamg

767 posts

81 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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There must be a few of you feeling cold by this, I think it’s superb and only there first go, the future looks good

BFleming

2,456 posts

101 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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MOBB said:
And the pics of the black Taycan shows exhaust tips too :-/
Unless those are pre-production cars?
phil4 said:
Don't like the lights on the black one. Blue one seems ok.
Don't people realise the black one is a disguised model (with fake headlight, rear light stickers and exhaust tips), and the blue one is.... not?

Julian Thompson

1,700 posts

196 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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Heading to Zuffenhausen next month for a factory tour. It will be interesting to see what, if anything, they show us of this...

devnull

2,533 posts

115 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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We are now at the point where the mainstream is beginning to catchup. They will win over Tesla with better interiors and brand heritage. Unless they up their game, Tesla will be reduced to fanboys only in the future.

J4CKO

31,665 posts

158 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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chelme said:
Why call it a Turbo, when it is all electric?!

It's misrepresenting what it is.

Taycan keep it.
Turbo = Fast

It doesnt need to have an exhaust driven air pump to get a badge on it, I have had so many things in my life with Turbo written on them and it hasnt ever mattered.

A Vaccum Cleaner
A Bicycle Saddle
A Computer

Sure there are other ones I cant think of, most punters wont care, Porsche Turbos are the faster models of their range, add an S for a bit of extra.

So many things in life have names that aren't representative, I am sure we can cope with this without going all Rain Man about it.

Please dont have that conversation with anyone who owns one "Its not a Turbo you know", they probably already understand and it will make you sound a bit strange.

124 mph in 9.8 sec, that must be a bit vivid.








corden

69 posts

92 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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Being a 'first look' article, I'm sure it was intentional that there weren't too many comparisons with the Model S, but it must be one hell of a steer to be heavier, slower, 100 miles less range and still worth the £20k premium.

I'm sure interior and exterior quality will be greatly improved over the S, but there sure are a whole load of other compromises.

I look forward to the back-to-back test!

hu8742

53 posts

83 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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Not even close to being the much touted 'Tesla killer'. Way more expensive, worse range, cramped interior. It also looks like the love child of Panamera and 911. Disappointing.

RacerMike

2,764 posts

169 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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Absolutely mega. Everything I hoped it would be, although a little bit of a shame they couldn't get the 350kW charging....

Would happily have this over a Panamera, and I can't wait to see the comparisons with Tesla. Proper EV from a proper car company.

I 8 a 4RE

194 posts

199 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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Flip me, that’s ugly!!

DMC2

1,457 posts

169 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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Turbo lol.

Visually it just looks like a Panamera copy, and that is no looker. Bit of a shame as the Mission-e car was looking okay for a while there.

Augustus Windsock

2,246 posts

113 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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Wills2 said:
The Turbo bit is just daft.
No more daft than Mercedes labelling a car 6.3 when it’s 6.2. Or less...
Personally I like the look of this and if I had the money would arrange a test drive in a flash
My only problem is the range.
Actually what I kean is that if I wanted to drive to my villa in the south of Spain I’d charge the car at home before leaving.
The drive to Folkestone is circa 221miles from Chez Moi.
But then Calais to the villa is circa 1275miles
I’m presuming that I would need to top up with electrickety near Folkestone or Calais
Now in my current petrol car it’s a 5min fill up at tops, but electrickety doesn’t allow me to do that
Plus there will no doubt be countless others wanting to stick a few volts into their Porsche which could involve a long wait
Then repeat 4 times, potentially on the way to Almeria.
Until the infrastructure is in place to have (very) rapid charging it will never win people like me over.
Screw the planet and all the yoghurt weaving, muesli-treading saddle wearers, u til that day arrives I’d choose a 911...

Matt Wills

88 posts

186 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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Why does it weigh 2.2 tonnes?

I thought it was a sports saloon not a Range Rovet!

Mookus

32 posts

148 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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The rear looks like its had a prolapse

kambites

60,097 posts

179 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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I can't decide whether the curiously stubby proportions are real or just the result of PH's usual screwing up of the photograph dimensions? Hopefully the latter because it looks really odd.

Nick928

194 posts

113 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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Wills2 said:
The Turbo bit is just daft.
It’s utterly stupid.
Akin to going to Halfords and buying turbo and GTI stickers to put on a 1.0 Corsa.

On second thoughts it’s even tackier than that, it’s a joke.

ntiz

1,337 posts

94 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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That’s both my Tesla’s getting replaced then.

To answer some of the questions of why is this better. Obviously this is just guessing:

Better built. Not hard achieve I grant you.

Better to drive. Tesla although not bad aren’t great either. Brakes and steering are pretty poor for the money. Having driven a Cayenne and Panamera recently I would expect this to be pretty impressive to drive.

Performance. I had to get some where in a hurry the other day in my Tesla had yellow triangles and the power halved within 10 mins of 90+ plus driving. Porsche have made it very clear and proven that there’s won’t be having that issue.

Range. 280 miles doesn’t look great it will depend how it does them. If it can 280 miles on the motorway at 90 that would be a step forward. If it loses a big chunk will be disappointing. I do believe the 2 speed rear axle is there to facilitate better range at speed. Time will tell.

Charging network. This is where I see the biggest problem if it’s not reliable or not enough chapters will ruin the car. For me at least. I use the Tesla network weekly. It is absolutely brilliant Porsche have to match it. I hope they do.

Just my opinion/hopes and expectations.