RE: Porsche 911 V8 Cabrio (996) | The Brave Pill

[J4CKO]

blade7 said:

unclemark123 said:

You are joking right?
A 5k car????

OK, £10k.

Lower miles 996s of that vintage are dearer than that, unless something a bit iffy about them, maybe a few years back they got cheap but nowadays they seem to be 15 plus.

With regards to the convertible, they sold when new so are still desirable then second hand, just not what you prefer.

[unclemark123]

blade7 said:

unclemark123 said:

You are joking right?
A 5k car????

OK, £10k.

blade7, do you just comment will the sole intention of winding people up? Or just to make yourself look a complete be***nd ?

[talksthetorque]

unclemark123 said:

blade7 said:

unclemark123 said:

You are joking right?
A 5k car????

OK, £10k.

blade7, do you just comment will the sole intention of winding people up? Or just to make yourself look a complete be***nd ?

Nothing in the game here.
I like the fact that someone has done this but would never personally buy it, because it's just not my thing.

How much is a 996 cab worth with a borked engine?

I think this is what blade is basing the "£5/10k car" figure on.

[Zumbruk]

Nope. Never in a zillion years.

[timrud]

Fair play for the effort, but you have made a good car worse. So asking such ridiculous money is certainly brave.

Who ever buys it will have the constant worry they will never be able to shift it on. Might be better as a breaker.

[Zumbruk]

unclemark123 said:

tommy1973s said:

your car is somewhere between a tragedy and an embarrassment - it's more divisive than Brexit; and I'd personally sooner walk than be caught in something like it.

A perfect example of purist hate, look no further than your comments

Except he's right. There's no market for V8 911s in the UK. He's ruined both the 911 and the engine by doing this, and it isn't worth a fraction of what he's asking.

[FlukePlay]

Yacht Broker said:

The car is debatable for sure, but aside from that, surely I cannot be the only one to think it's a bit under the belt for pistonheads to publish an article which very clearly aims to scare people off buying a car which the owner has paid money to pistonheads to advertise. Interesting way to run a business.

Perhaps Pistonhead's should offer free listings in a section called 'Brave Pills' if they satisfy certain criteria. For me this would be listed in the 'Avoid' section.

[Julian Thompson]

Personally I think something like racecars direct would be a more cosmopolitan audience for this car.

[Olivera]

Julian Thompson said:

Personally I think something like racecars direct would be a more cosmopolitan audience for this car.

Well Pistonheads used to be the right place to advertise such cars, perhaps no longer.

I don't quite understand the vitriol towards this car. It would be a travesty had Porsche fitted a powerful and trustworthy unit, but instead they fitted a unit with average power and dogst reliability.

Over 200 bhp extra and better reliability sounds good, and all the better that it riles bearded puritans.

[unclemark123]

Olivera said:

Julian Thompson said:

Personally I think something like racecars direct would be a more cosmopolitan audience for this car.

Well Pistonheads used to be the right place to advertise such cars, perhaps no longer.

I don't quite understand the vitriol towards this car. It would be a travesty had Porsche fitted a powerful and trustworthy unit, but instead they fitted a unit with average power and dogst reliability.

Over 200 bhp extra and better reliability sounds good, and all the better that it riles bearded puritans.

Thanks Julian. Of course I am biased as its my car, but I quite agree.

There is no denying my car is marmite, but the hate sure is strong in here.

I thought the spirit of Pistonheads is the love of cars, however it seems to have degenerated in to hate and insults. Quite sad IMO and a discredit to the site.
I do genuinly get more positive comments on the 996 owners page!

[DanielSan]

Love the LS swap personally, styling wise I'd like to see something a bit madder to make it stand out. Along the lines of the Gas Monkey LS3 powered 996. If I had the cash for a toy like this personally I'd buy it and add the styling bits... Made all the better by the fact that Porsche geeks would hate it even more.

[unclemark123]

DanielSan said:

Love the LS swap personally, styling wise I'd like to see something a bit madder to make it stand out. Along the lines of the Gas Monkey LS3 powered 996. If I had the cash for a toy like this personally I'd buy it and add the styling bits... Made all the better by the fact that Porsche geeks would hate it even more.

It was actually that car that inspired me to convert my car DanielSan.

Juzt to add, I recall getting tons of positive comments from various race teams in the pit lane at SPA. Ironic eh?

[richthebike]

unclemark123 said:

Thanks Julian. Of course I am biased as its my car, but I quite agree.

There is no denying my car is marmite, but the hate sure is strong in here.

I thought the spirit of Pistonheads is the love of cars, however it seems to have degenerated in to hate and insults. Quite sad IMO and a discredit to the site.
I do genuinly get more positive comments on the 996 owners page!

It's the usual crowd who are just negative about everything. They'd be moaning about chocolate engines or headlights that aren't round if there wasn't a V8 to mean about. Its mostly uninformed guff.

I stand by my original comment that the price is toppy, for the reasons we discussed. Market is dead. However, I like an oddity, and I love a 996, so would love to have a go. You're a bit far away from me unfortunately. I asked RPM to price up the conversion 4 years or so ago not we couldn't settle on a turnkey figure.

[richthebike]

unclemark123 said:

That said, why does a Hartech rebuilt 3.7 deserve such a premium? Barely any more power? All you really get is reliability? A well maintained 996 will do this without a rebuild. It's only a very low % that fail.

Edited by unclemark123 on Sunday 8th September 10:43

In the case of the car I think we're both talking about, you're getting another 100k miles of reliability pretty much guaranteed, which takes away a lot of the risk (or perceived risk). Its probably a few thousand more than the low end of the market and it's just had a bill deep into 5 figures from probably the most reputable outfit for these engines. That's why it's priced at a relatively small premium. Still not selling though!

Re: blades comments, a borked 996 cab is probably a sub 10k car, have to agree with him there

[Notanotherturbo]

timrud said:

If it was up for 6-7k maybe it'd be worth a punt

You could sell the engine for £6 K.

[LordHaveMurci]

unclemark123 said:

I do genuinly get more positive comments on the 996 owners page!

The Facebook group?

Mainly interested in wot 20’’ rimz & spacers can I fit & wot stickerz look sick bruv, innit

[anonymous-user]

Just going to say, an LS swap makes the 996 a very much more interesting car. Other opinions available

[The Dictator]

Personally I love it, I am a Porsche fan and am not put off by this engine conversion at all.

I have a 38yr old Mercedes 500 SEL which I have modified, whilst not as devisive as this car, I have only received positive responses.

I would happily own and drive this 911, it's different and interesting, which as a car enthusiast makes it right up my street.

Good luck with the sale :-)

[greeneggsandham]

I really like this...
and the hate for this car is strong on what is purported to be a car fans' forum...

[blade7]

talksthetorque said:

Nothing in the game here.
I like the fact that someone has done this but would never personally buy it, because it's just not my thing.

How much is a 996 cab worth with a borked engine?

I think this is what blade is basing the "£5/10k car" figure on.

It is.