Running a banger cost effective?

[djohnson]

singlecoil said:

murphyaj said:

singlecoil said:

Indeed. My commute is only three miles, but if I didn't have the option of a car I would walk it before I would risk riding a bike.

Statistically, per mile travelled, you have a higher chance of being killed as a pedestrian than a cyclist...

I'll take your word for what the statistics say, but will make up my own mind as to which is the most dangerous in my particular circumstances.

I’m not sure what the statistics say but I think you’d have to be stark raving, mouth foamingly, bonkers to ride a pedal bike on the roads.

[djohnson]

MC Bodge said:

On the other hand, riding a bike boosts masculinity and fertility to phenomenal levels.

Well plenty of cyclists I see around here seem to like spending their spare time with other men also dressed in skin tight lycra.

[MC Bodge]

djohnson said:

I’m not sure what the statistics say but I think you’d have to be stark raving, mouth foamingly, bonkers to ride a pedal bike on the roads.

You called?

1,000s of miles of commuting every year. It's great.

If more people did it, the roads would be even safer.

It interesting how some people can be so scared of things that others just do.

[djohnson]

MC Bodge said:

djohnson said:

I’m not sure what the statistics say but I think you’d have to be stark raving, mouth foamingly, bonkers to ride a pedal bike on the roads.

You called?

1,000s of miles of commuting every year. It's great.

If more people did it, the roads would be even safer.

It interesting how some people can be so scared of things that others just do.

Everyone’s assessment of risk is different. For me it’s be a great answer, if I’m in the Leeds office it’s a 30 mile round trip quite a bit on nice country roads, fitting exercise into my schedule I do but it’s a challenge and combining it with counting would be great. However getting out of the car with its crumple zones and airbags and becoming such a vulnerable road user Is way off my acceptable risk scale. Each to their own though.

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[singlecoil]

MC Bodge said:

...It's interesting how some people can be so scared of things that others just do...

Using emotive terms won't bolster your argument. Deciding that something isn't worth the risk (even if it's a small one) is not fear driven, it's a cost/benefit calculation.

[MC Bodge]

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[MC Bodge]

djohnson said:

Everyone’s assessment of risk is different. For me it’s be a great answer, if I’m in the Leeds office it’s a 30 mile round trip quite a bit on nice country roads, fitting exercise into my schedule I do but it’s a challenge and combining it with counting would be great. However getting out of the car with its crumple zones and airbags and becoming such a vulnerable road user Is way off my acceptable risk scale. Each to their own though.

So you are frightened, but assert that people who ride bikes on the road are crazy?

[MDMA .]

Joey Deacon said:

_Hoppers said:

Joey Deacon said:

sweaty, or freezing cold and soaking wet

An electric bike, extra layer of clothing and some waterproofs would sort that out.

And what about the getting squished by an SUV?

Would save the dreary house moving threads

[ReaperCushions]

Do it in style, comfort and the waft of a big V8 in a Lexus LS400 or V6 in the Honda Legend.

Both super reliable as well.

[MC Bodge]

singlecoil said:

MC Bodge said:

...It's interesting how some people can be so scared of things that others just do...

Using emotive terms won't bolster your argument. Deciding that something isn't worth the risk (even if it's a small one) is not fear driven, it's a cost/benefit calculation.

Bolster my argument? Somebody asserted that riding bikes on the road was crazy and only lunatics would do it.

Ps. The cost of cycling to work is miniscule. The benefits are multiple. Even riding to work in the rain is better than driving to work in traffic.

[Jag_NE]

Unless your current car is something pretty special I’d just use that. The cost of buying and running the second car would cover a lot of car park dings, if you get any at all. Also factor in that driving the nice car is more enjoyable and you don’t consume space with an additional car.

[Baldchap]

I've got a Ka I bought for an event that's no longer happening, 08 plate with a rusty filler cap that's been repaired in a very ugly manner. 66k on the clock, 2 keys, 8 stamps, MOT until June IIRC. It's anyone's for what I paid -£350.

I think it just needs a drive, but it might want a brake disk. :-)

[singlecoil]

MC Bodge said:

singlecoil said:

MC Bodge said:

...It's interesting how some people can be so scared of things that others just do...

Using emotive terms won't bolster your argument. Deciding that something isn't worth the risk (even if it's a small one) is not fear driven, it's a cost/benefit calculation.

Bolster my argument? Somebody asserted that riding bikes on the road was crazy and only lunatics would do it.

Ps. The cost of cycling to work is miniscule. The benefits are multiple. Even riding to work in the rain is better than driving to work in traffic.

You're ignoring the risk in that equation. The risk, I agree, is small but the consequences of being struck by a car with an inattentive driver are easily potentially life changing if not actually fatal. You choose not to concern yourself with that risk but it doesn't mean that it isn't there.

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[mike9009]

Joey Deacon said:

_Hoppers said:

Joey Deacon said:

sweaty, or freezing cold and soaking wet

An electric bike, extra layer of clothing and some waterproofs would sort that out.

And what about the getting squished by an SUV?

If that is the fear, I would suggest buying a HGV rather than a small cheap runabout.

[Pothole]

singlecoil said:

murphyaj said:

singlecoil said:

Indeed. My commute is only three miles, but if I didn't have the option of a car I would walk it before I would risk riding a bike.

Statistically, per mile travelled, you have a higher chance of being killed as a pedestrian than a cyclist...

I'll take your word for what the statistics say, but will make up my own mind as to which is the most dangerous in my particular circumstances.

You're generally reasonably sensible. Basing a decision of feelings is not, really.

[singlecoil]

Pothole said:

singlecoil said:

murphyaj said:

singlecoil said:

Indeed. My commute is only three miles, but if I didn't have the option of a car I would walk it before I would risk riding a bike.

Statistically, per mile travelled, you have a higher chance of being killed as a pedestrian than a cyclist...

I'll take your word for what the statistics say, but will make up my own mind as to which is the most dangerous in my particular circumstances.

You're generally reasonably sensible. Basing a decision of feelings is not, really.

Do you mean basing a decision 'on' feelings? If so, who is doing that?

[InitialDave]

As others have said, yes, running a cheap car really can be cost effective, if you're in a position to work on the car yourself.

[MC Bodge]

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