RE: Ford Ranger Raptor | UK Drive

[Chainsaw Rebuild]

I think the engine makes sense. Yes, a giant petrol V8 would be awesome; however it would be damn expensive to run and tax in the real world.

I think having a sensible engine means it makes more sense to run one in the uk as your work vehicle/family car.

[mfp4073]

I quite like this pick up which is odd since I really don't like new cars.
However a 2ltr diesel is a sad joke, it really needs a big V8 to be taken seriously.

[Zetec-S]

Kubevoid said:

This is a builders diesel thing, for pretenders.

It's not a builders thing, far from it. Can't imagine one turning up in something like this, and if they did I think I'd take my business elsewhere as they're obviously charging too much A tatty old transit/tipper job is surely more suitable.

I'd agree this is aimed at "pretenders" though. It's the sort of thing a site foreman, surveyor, project manager type will rock up on site with, dressed in shirt and trousers, who will then proceed to don hard hat, hi-viz and willies to trudge around site with a clipboard looking important.

But have to say I do love it. My fantasy garage includes an F150 Raptor, but would happily take one of these instead (with a V8 engine swap)

[loveice]

Zetec-S said:

It's not a builders thing, far from it. Can't imagine one turning up in something like this, and if they did I think I'd take my business elsewhere as they're obviously charging too much A tatty old transit/tipper job is surely more suitable.

I'd agree this is aimed at "pretenders" though. It's the sort of thing a site foreman, surveyor, project manager type will rock up on site with, dressed in shirt and trousers, who will then proceed to don hard hat, hi-viz and willies to trudge around site with a clipboard looking important.

But have to say I do love it. My fantasy garage includes an F150 Raptor, but would happily take one of these instead (with a V8 engine swap)

Why people keep on asking for V8 for this Ranger Raptor? Even your fantasy F150 Raptor doesn't have a V8. As long as the F150 Raptor uses a V6, Ranger Raptor will only have a 4-pot. But, we can definitely ask for a high performance turbo charged petrol 4-pot instead of the current diesel one.

[V8RX7]

loveice said:

Why people keep on asking for V8 for this Ranger Raptor? Even your fantasy F150 Raptor doesn't have a V8.

If my IS200 has a V8 and my RX7 has a V8 you can be assured my pickup will too.

Whether the manufacturer fits it or not

[loveice]

V8RX7 said:

If my IS200 has a V8 and my RX7 has a V8 you can be assured my pickup will too.

Whether the manufacturer fits it or not

Fair enough. I even at one stage wanted to fit a W12 in a 1.0L Lupo... But I just don't think Ford would put any V8s in a Ranger Raptor when F150 Raptor only has a V6.

[Zetec-S]

loveice said:

Why people keep on asking for V8 for this Ranger Raptor? Even your fantasy F150 Raptor doesn't have a V8. As long as the F150 Raptor uses a V6, Ranger Raptor will only have a 4-pot. But, we can definitely ask for a high performance turbo charged petrol 4-pot instead of the current diesel one.

It's my fantasy garage, if I want to stick a V8 in there I can

[Fast Bug]

It’s not a builders thing, or indeed any kind of work truck. The payload is so low, that in the eyes of the law it’s not a commercial vehicle. So run it through the books and the tax man nails you for BIK as a 50k car. Nice one Ford, point missed by a country mile.

[Glasgowrob]

the twin turbo v6 would have been right at home in this seeing as the F150 is just far too big for the UK

Ford Ranger Raptor RS anyone

[Roo]

Fast Bug said:

It’s not a builders thing, or indeed any kind of work truck. The payload is so low, that in the eyes of the law it’s not a commercial vehicle. So run it through the books and the tax man nails you for BIK as a 50k car. Nice one Ford, point missed by a country mile.

This is the bit most people have missed.

[Nerdherder]

Does this kind of work horse belong on PH? Not to my mind.

[Zetec-S]

Roo said:

Fast Bug said:

It’s not a builders thing, or indeed any kind of work truck. The payload is so low, that in the eyes of the law it’s not a commercial vehicle. So run it through the books and the tax man nails you for BIK as a 50k car. Nice one Ford, point missed by a country mile.

This is the bit most people have missed.

No one is going to buy it because it's the sensible financial option.

[Dr G]

It's horrible but there's clearly a market for people who want to make their pickup trucks look this way so I don't begrudge Ford for taking their money.

I personally think they're in quite poor taste but don't imagine the people buying them care about my opinion for a nanosecond.

[300bhp/ton]

Dr Interceptor said:

I love it to bits... and would buy one, if it had something other than a 2.0 litre 4-cyl diesel.

In the USA Ford equip the Ranger with the 2.3 turbo unit from the Mustang. They don't get the Raptor variant, but still.

[300bhp/ton]

BenLowden said:

I can see myself in one of those in my favourite checked shirt blasting out Sweet Home Alabama. Love it!

I suppose the irony is, this Ranger was a development of a Japanese truck, design for the RoW markets and not the USA and wasn't even sold there until recently. And aren't most Rangers built in Asia.

That said, I probably agree with your sentiment. Awesome song and a great looking truck. Plus I have lots of check shirts......

[300bhp/ton]

sassthathoopie said:

Jon_S_Rally said:

So it's not quick and doesn't have a V8 - who cares? It looks great, is brilliant off road and is totally different to anything else in the UK.

Not everything has to be about straight line speed.

Mine's got Fox Racing dampers, 35" BF Goodrich tyres and is heaps cheaper: Isuzu D-Max Arctic Trucks AT35 Utility Pack

Heaps cheaper, aren't they about £47,000?

https://www.isuzu.co.uk/arctictrucksat35


Cool trucks though. Probably not as good at the high speed stuff as the Raptor though. Shame Isuzu don't offer a variant of the Colorado ZR2 with the AT35 bits. Now that would be a really cool truck.

[300bhp/ton]

Nerdherder said:

Does this kind of work horse belong on PH? Not to my mind.

What an odd thing to say

[Fast Bug]

Zetec-S said:

Roo said:

Fast Bug said:

It’s not a builders thing, or indeed any kind of work truck. The payload is so low, that in the eyes of the law it’s not a commercial vehicle. So run it through the books and the tax man nails you for BIK as a 50k car. Nice one Ford, point missed by a country mile.

This is the bit most people have missed.

No one is going to buy it because it's the sensible financial option.

You buy a truck to run through the business and pay low tax on it. If you’re taxed on it as if it’s a car, then as a business user you buy something far nicer to drive.

For a 40% tax payer BIK is over £7200 pa, compared to £1300 if it could carry more than a packet of biscuits as a payload.

[Kawasicki]

300bhp/ton said:

BenLowden said:

I can see myself in one of those in my favourite checked shirt blasting out Sweet Home Alabama. Love it!

I suppose the irony is, this Ranger was a development of a Japanese truck, design for the RoW markets and not the USA and wasn't even sold there until recently. And aren't most Rangers built in Asia.

That said, I probably agree with your sentiment. Awesome song and a great looking truck. Plus I have lots of check shirts......

This Ranger is an australian developed Ford, it's not based on anything Japanese.

[loveice]

Nerdherder said:

Does this kind of work horse belong on PH? Not to my mind.

Raptors are not marketed as work horse by Ford. It’s basically a toy.

In North America nobody uses their F150 Raptor as work truck. Because of the suspension settings, all Raptors (Ranger or F150) have less load and towing capacities than even the base models.

It’s like no one here would use their Pajero Evo as farm 4x4 back in the 90s. They were/are Dakar/Baja specials.