RE: Ford Ranger Raptor | UK Drive

RE: Ford Ranger Raptor | UK Drive

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Tyronnster

19 posts

70 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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Kubevoid said:
Cletus would have a proper V8. Likely with +90mm twin turbos.

This is a builders diesel thing, for pretenders. Like the four pot Mustang set. Like Malboro man, but with a vape in an ebay costume.
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pilotdan

39 posts

191 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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Works well with a supercharged V8 under the hood, not so much with a wheezy UK spec diesel.

and nearly £50k...!

Can only believe this was thought up in an American board room by someone who visited the UK once.


spookly

4,019 posts

95 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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I've never had a pickup, but quite like the idea of a pickup with a load cover.

Not for £50k with a 200hp diesel though.

Dr G

15,173 posts

242 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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300bhp/ton said:
I suspect some people may feel the same about these though... wink

Wolf in sheep vs sheep in wolf!

If Ford turn a profit selling these (and I'm sure they will) then carry on I say.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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loveice said:
It is a high speed...
Stop right there. No it isn't. What it is is a massive missed opportunity to chuck in one of their brilliant Ecoboosts. Real shame. So much for badge snobbery I'll probably end up just getting a Ranger fx4 to replace my Touareg.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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So it's a styling trim level, basically.

What an absolutley pointless thing, unless you think one of those laughable "sporty" Transit vans with the halfords-esque fake exhaust hanging down like the balls on a dog doesn't quite make you look like enough of a bellend.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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pilotdan said:
Can only believe this was thought up in an American board room by someone who visited the UK once.
Ford Australia led and developed the Raptor variant of the Ranger.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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sassthathoopie said:
I paid £34,500 + VAT for mine last summer (It is a Utility Pack as I needed an extended cab) They are great fun to drive and do pick up their skirts, but of course that's not the point!

The latest Colorado has nothing to do with Isuzu - they parted ways with the development of the new Chevy.
Isn't the Colorado and D-Max built on the platform and essentially the same truck?


vtecyo

2,122 posts

129 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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fblm said:
0-60 over 10... Has to be the most disappointing car of the year!
Agreed. 50k as well. Mental.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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Chestrockwell said:
Why haven’t ford put the 3.2 5cyl diesel from the current ford rangers?
It's being replaced by the new 2.0 bi-turbo unit. Same power, slightly different torque. Although the old 3.2 was probably more tunable in the aftermarket.

Chestrockwell said:
Also, as for the performance, 10.5 seconds isn’t a lot on paper however my friend had a Diahatsu 4trak years ago with 100bhp turbo diesel with proper off road tyres and I’m not sure if it was the short gearing or the lack of refinement, it actually felt quite brisk when going through the gears....up to 50 mph!

I don’t think this is slow for what it is. Diesel cars always feel faster than they are because of the torque so I wouldn’t let that 0-60 time put me off!
I agree, I suspect once rolling it probably doesn't feel that slow, it might also have some deliberate power reducing gubbins or delay off the line to protect the drivetrain, which will impact a timed 0-60mph run.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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300bhp/ton said:
I agree, I suspect once rolling it probably doesn't feel that slow, it might also have some deliberate power reducing gubbins or delay off the line to protect the drivetrain, which will impact a timed 0-60mph run.
Yes I agree that it'll probalby be detuned in 1st and 2nd (lots of things are) and it may well have traction issues too - all the pickups I've driven are very keen to break rear wheel traction when the load bed is empty. The slowness is really not a problem in one being sold as a tool, but it is a problem for one styled like this being sold TOO tools.

Fetchez la vache

5,572 posts

214 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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spookly said:
I've never had a pickup, but quite like the idea of a pickup with a load cover.

Not for £50k with a 200hp diesel though.
Just been on the MB site. When you considering an X 350 d V6 4MATIC (X Class) is £47.5k without options it makes far more sense.
If you're actually going off road there's no contest. If you want to prance about going to the gym or inner city maybe notsomuch...

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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Fetchez la vache said:
spookly said:
I've never had a pickup, but quite like the idea of a pickup with a load cover.

Not for £50k with a 200hp diesel though.
Just been on the MB site. When you considering an X 350 d V6 4MATIC (X Class) is £47.5k without options it makes far more sense.
If you're actually going off road there's no contest. If you want to prance about going to the gym or inner city maybe notsomuch...
Also if Jeep do bring the Gladiator to the UK, you can bet it will be £50k+



Edited by 300bhp/ton on Thursday 12th September 14:50

Zetec-S

5,873 posts

93 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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stickleback123 said:
So it's a styling trim level, basically.
Um, no... pay attention at the back teacher
wink

Previous poster linked this review which lists the upgrades vs a regular Ranger

https://www.parkers.co.uk/vans-pickups/news/2019/f...

◾Front and rear Fox Racing Shox shock absorbers
◾Rear coilover spring conversion (instead of the usual leaf springs) with new Watts linkage to stabilise the suspension movement in extreme off-road driving and sharpern on-road dynamics
◾Uniquely modified chassis frame (!) for increased strength and revised suspension geometry to suit raised ride height
◾New forged aluminium upper front suspension arms and cast aluminium lower suspension arms for increased suspension travel, replacing heavier steel items
◾Front brake calipers with 20% larger pistons
◾Rear disc brakes in place of the the standard drums
◾High-performance off-road seats with dual hardness cushioning and technical suede finish
◾New interior styling with blue stitching, leather accents and Ceramic trim
◾Raptor steering wheel, with lightweight magnesium (!) paddleshifters
◾New instrument cluster with twin dials (speedometer and rev counter) and central information screen
◾Six-mode Terrain Management System
◾New FORD grille modelled after F-150 Raptor
◾Raised and frame-mounted front bumper
◾Front LED foglights with functional air-curtain ducts to reduce air resistance
◾Composite front wing panels to better resist off-road damage from flying debris
◾Flared wheel arches to accommodate extra suspension travel and 150mm (!) increase in track width
◾Diecast aluminium alloy side steps, designed to protect the rear bodywork from flying debris
◾New rear bumper with flush-mounted sensor bezels
◾Twin front tow hooks rated to 4,635kg
◾Twin rear recovery tow hooks rated to 3,863kg, plus an integrated rear tow bar rated to 2,500kg (2.5 tonnes)
◾Specially developed 33-inch BF Goodrich all-terrain tyres with tough sidewalls
◾New front bash plate made from 2.3mm high-strength steel

Yes, utterly OTT and overpriced, but no different to any other market segment. Yes, this is a fairly niche market, but it will appeal to some people and you can't really argue it's just a tarted up Ranger.

guidobertarelli

3 posts

119 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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My recommendation would be to stay well clear of any Ford Ranger.

The above pictures were taken of my 2018 Ford Ranger Wildtrak when it had just 1,400 miles on it.
I took it back to my local Ford dealer within the 14 day cooling off period and they confirmed Ford UK would honor the repair work, there was then a long delay without them responding to my calls or emails.
It now appears that Ford UK are refusing to do anything about it.


This is not a localised issue: https://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/showthread.ph...

unsprung

5,467 posts

124 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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guidobertarelli said:











My recommendation would be to stay well clear of any Ford Ranger.

The above pictures were taken of my 2018 Ford Ranger Wildtrak when it had just 1,400 miles on it.
I took it back to my local Ford dealer within the 14 day cooling off period and they confirmed Ford UK would honor the repair work, there was then a long delay without them responding to my calls or emails.
It now appears that Ford UK are refusing to do anything about it.


This is not a localised issue: https://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/showthread.ph...
a) Top lurking !!

b) Thanks for taking the time to post specific photos and the link. This is partly what forums are for. When there are genuine OEM issues like this, it's important to get the word out.

coffee


Water Fairy

5,502 posts

155 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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I'll just leave this here...................

The 2019 Ram HD lineup starts at $35,090 for the base Tradesman 2500 rear-wheel-drive model, according to the Ram configurator. The new 1000-lb-ft Cummins 6.7-liter diesel is an $11,795 option for 3500 model trucks only; the standard Cummins diesel is a $9,100 option.

Proper truck with proper grunt. Ford is mugging us off with this anaemic drivel.




LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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Biggest issue is they've made the back about 20mm too narrow to put a sheet of ply or plasterboard in.

Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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A 2.0 litre diesel with 10 gears.

10.5s 0-60mph.

One gear per 1 second of acceleration.

I'm trying to work out whether 10 gears make it faster or slower.


Kawasicki

13,082 posts

235 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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300bhp/ton said:
Kawasicki said:
300bhp/ton said:
BenLowden said:
I can see myself in one of those in my favourite checked shirt blasting out Sweet Home Alabama. Love it!
I suppose the irony is, this Ranger was a development of a Japanese truck, design for the RoW markets and not the USA and wasn't even sold there until recently. And aren't most Rangers built in Asia.

That said, I probably agree with your sentiment. Awesome song and a great looking truck. Plus I have lots of check shirts...... getmecoat

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This Ranger is an australian developed Ford, it's not based on anything Japanese.
Wasn't the Raptor developed in Oz. But the base truck hails from Mazda.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Ranger_(T6)
Nope, all developed in Australia. I worked on the team. Mazda based their version on the Ford.