RE: Aston Martin Vantage Roadster due next spring

RE: Aston Martin Vantage Roadster due next spring

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Venturist

3,472 posts

195 months

Monday 7th October 2019
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There is staggeringly little love toward this. How have Aston gotten it so wrong? Surely the board is very worried, as if they weren’t already.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 7th October 2019
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Augustus Windsock said:
I’ve got to follow the crowd on this one, I t just smacks of lazy ‘styling’, and seems to be an uneasy blend of proportions.Personally I find the rear overhang way too short (a la F type)
The rear, as others have opined, is awful, the wavy grey plastic looking like it has parked to close to an industrial-sized kerosene heater.
I’m guessing that the view out is t exactly panoramic either, the hood by necessity being small and the glasses openings equally on the small size, which should make pulling out at oblique junctions ‘interesting’
Yeah, but think about it - this Aston convertible 'has' to fit into a design parameter. Front engined, RWD, 2 seater. It needs Aston trademarks, the wavy grille, the side strakes. That's quite a lot of design limits already there, and already having to fit into a relatively small car. It's no wonder they look the same and so similar to Jags that have to fit in with a similar brief.

Having said all that, I think Aston have been quite bold with the end result, it's not exactly pretty - like the old one - but it's almost quirky and interesting, but still fitting into the brief. Perhaps I'm in the miniority but I think it looks alright. I would agree it's colour sensitive.

AndrewNR

267 posts

122 months

Monday 7th October 2019
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Those are big lips on the back.

CSK1

1,601 posts

124 months

Monday 7th October 2019
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5490 said:
Perhaps I'm in the miniority but I think it looks alright.
Do you think "looking alright" is enough to get a full order book?

scottydoesntknow

860 posts

57 months

Monday 7th October 2019
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No interior pics?

CSK1

1,601 posts

124 months

Monday 7th October 2019
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Interior will most likely be taken over unchanged from the coupe.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 7th October 2019
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CSK1 said:
5490 said:
Perhaps I'm in the miniority but I think it looks alright.
Do you think "looking alright" is enough to get a full order book?
Oh no. I can understand why people don't like it and while I said it looks alright, I wouldn't buy one! Well, maybe in a decades time, when they're about 30 grand...

This is hardly a good time for AM and it can't help that people are not liking their direction.

blue al

937 posts

159 months

Monday 7th October 2019
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Trying too hard to be different from behind
Looking like a Kahn upgrade kit, or something from Lamborghini
Not an Aston anymore in my book

Jellinek

274 posts

275 months

Monday 7th October 2019
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Why “opening” in spring 2020, surely not a diabolical marketing pun on the folding roof!? Makes it sound like a shopping centre. Share price down again today, probably due to the reception this reveal has garnered, and aren’t Jags supposed to look like Aston’s, not the other way round?

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 8th October 2019
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Venturist said:
There is staggeringly little love toward this. How have Aston gotten it so wrong? Surely the board is very worried, as if they weren’t already.
It's a prototype, and not the finished article. I'm puzzled why these prototypes are shown off, because it's often enough to convince potential buyers that it's going to look like something that it perhaps wont. I'd wait until next year and re-assess it then.

Much like the DBX, that's been drip fed over a long time, the internet's decided it's awful before it's even been unveiled. Camo cars are great for providing hype, but they should come with a caveat that it wont actually be identical to that when officially unveiled.

There's not a lot of love for Aston's anywhere currently (certainly on PH at least, 90% of posters have 0% positive feedback about anything the company's doing) - from those who just despise the marque (for whatever personal reasons that might be) to those who dislike some aspects of the new cars. Sad times really, I like all the new models they're producing, it's a shame they're not better received, or better understood.

I expect the Valkyrie, Valhalla and Vanquish Vision Concept will also receive the same bashing in the near future.

aston addict

421 posts

158 months

Tuesday 8th October 2019
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NFC 85 Vette said:
Venturist said:
There is staggeringly little love toward this. How have Aston gotten it so wrong? Surely the board is very worried, as if they weren’t already.
It's a prototype, and not the finished article. I'm puzzled why these prototypes are shown off, because it's often enough to convince potential buyers that it's going to look like something that it perhaps wont. I'd wait until next year and re-assess it then.

Much like the DBX, that's been drip fed over a long time, the internet's decided it's awful before it's even been unveiled. Camo cars are great for providing hype, but they should come with a caveat that it wont actually be identical to that when officially unveiled.

There's not a lot of love for Aston's anywhere currently (certainly on PH at least, 90% of posters have 0% positive feedback about anything the company's doing) - from those who just despise the marque (for whatever personal reasons that might be) to those who dislike some aspects of the new cars. Sad times really, I like all the new models they're producing, it's a shame they're not better received, or better understood.

I expect the Valkyrie, Valhalla and Vanquish Vision Concept will also receive the same bashing in the near future.
I’ve loved Astons ever since I was a lad - v8 in prince of Wales spec would be the ultimate, or a late model DB9, or v12 vantage - but as a lifelong fan, I have to say the current range leaves me cold.

I will agree that the new vantage looks far better in the flesh, and is very color sensitive, but it’s certainly not pretty. Even the interior is just naff, same for the DB11.

The brand will go on, but for me the question is: how did they ever get signed off? Maybe the markets who finds them ugly are no longer key markets for Aston.

I wish them the best of luck, but seriously hope that they read the comments on here and take action. The vantage, for example, would look so much better with a restyled front, new interior and ditch all the neon trim rubbish they paint their press cars in.

NJJ

432 posts

80 months

Tuesday 8th October 2019
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Would immediately look more sleek without the roll-over hoops (when roof is down), which cheapen it I think. And whether roof up or down, some colour coding with the lower bumper 'design' would tone it down nicely too.

sidesauce

2,472 posts

218 months

Tuesday 8th October 2019
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swisstoni said:
cluckcluck said:
Not a patch on its amg brother


Which isn’t saying a lot.
Disagree. I think this car is an absolute triumph design wise. One of the best looking modern convertibles currently on sale.

Barry Homo

2,552 posts

162 months

Tuesday 8th October 2019
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NFC 85 Vette said:
It's a prototype, and not the finished article. I'm puzzled why these prototypes are shown off, because it's often enough to convince potential buyers that it's going to look like something that it perhaps wont. I'd wait until next year and re-assess it then.

Much like the DBX, that's been drip fed over a long time, the internet's decided it's awful before it's even been unveiled. Camo cars are great for providing hype, but they should come with a caveat that it wont actually be identical to that when officially unveiled.

There's not a lot of love for Aston's anywhere currently (certainly on PH at least, 90% of posters have 0% positive feedback about anything the company's doing) - from those who just despise the marque (for whatever personal reasons that might be) to those who dislike some aspects of the new cars. Sad times really, I like all the new models they're producing, it's a shame they're not better received, or better understood.

I expect the Valkyrie, Valhalla and Vanquish Vision Concept will also receive the same bashing in the near future.
It's not camouflaged. This is for all intents and purposes the final car beyond some colour and trim.

ZX10R NIN

27,577 posts

125 months

Tuesday 8th October 2019
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David87 said:
dino_jr said:
That side shot is basically an F-Type.
Yeah, that's really weird. I don't think the coupe looks particularly like the F-Type, but this Roadster looks almost identical!
I have to agree side on it very much looks like an F Type, whereas the coupes look very different.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 8th October 2019
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Barry Homo said:
It's not camouflaged. This is for all intents and purposes the final car beyond some colour and trim.
I stand corrected thumbup

dbs2000

2,685 posts

192 months

Tuesday 8th October 2019
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sidesauce said:
Disagree. I think this car is an absolute triumph design wise. One of the best looking modern convertibles currently on sale.
^^ completely agree.

I think Aston are in the st with the new Vantage

James Junior

827 posts

157 months

Tuesday 8th October 2019
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I didn't like the images I saw of the new Vantage but thought I'd reserve judgement until I'd seen it in the metal. Spotted a few parked up in and around Manchester recently and they are horrid looking things. The rear looks really over-embellished and the front looks a right mess. That huge expanse of mesh grille reminds me of 1990s Max Power big mouth front bumpers.

The previous Vantage remains one of the high points of car design to my eye. Well proportioned and simply stunning from every angle. It has hardly aged and still looks gorgeous now despite being fifteen years old. It was always going to be a tough act to follow but the new car is truly horrible looking. I don't know how it got past the design phase given it's significance.

AdamV12AMR

1,380 posts

156 months

Tuesday 8th October 2019
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NJJ said:
Would immediately look more sleek without the roll-over hoops (when roof is down), which cheapen it I think.
This is exactly the point. Fixed roll-over hoops are much less expensive to engineer than the integrated (explosive!) pop-up hoops that feature on the previous gen Vantage. I'm sure they're trying to hit a price-point (£140k-ish?) and this was one of the compromises.

3yardy3

270 posts

114 months

Tuesday 8th October 2019
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It's very nice but as it's so similar to the Jag (in fact to my eyes the Jag is better looking) why would people bother spending the premium, it's not like you see tons of F-types around. unless you care about image and want people to know you have an Aston over a Jaguar.