RE: Saab 9-5 | Shed Buying Guide

RE: Saab 9-5 | Shed Buying Guide

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gigglebug

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2,611 posts

122 months

Thursday 10th October 2019
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tdm34 said:
i'd added an Albert 666 3" downpipe
I think that is the guy I was trying to remember earlier. I can't think of anything better than components that can perform to a high standard whilst being things of beauty to look at.

Edited by gigglebug on Thursday 10th October 08:24

bigtomski

359 posts

196 months

Thursday 10th October 2019
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gigglebug said:
I think that is the guy I was trying to remember earlier. I can't think of anything better than components that can perform to a high standard whilst being things of beauty to look at.

Edited by gigglebug on Thursday 10th October 08:24
I have an Albert 3" downpipe on my car and it is indeed a thing of beauty.
Almost a shame I never get to see it now it's fitted.
They do come up time to time secondhand on UKSaabs, thats how I got mine.
For anyone with a 9-5 aero wanting to got to Stage 3, I say just do it.
You just need the 3" downpipe, a new FPR and of course a map from the legend that is Karl (Noobtune)

cheesesliceking

1,571 posts

240 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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Twoshoe said:
You sure yours wasn't a 9-3? I thought Vector was a variant of the 9-3, not 9-5. (Could be wrong though.)
BFleming said:
Twoshoe said:
You sure yours wasn't a 9-3?
That definitely does sound like a 9-3 alright, especially the headunit comment. The pre-2007 9-3 dashboard was very inflexible. I repeat what I sad earlier though, the diesels (9-3 or 9-5) definitely seem to have a hard life.
hahaha! Only on PH do two people tell you you didn't buy the car you actually bought !

Yes I'm very sure it was a 9-5, and very sure it was a "Vector Sport 1.9TiD"

Here is an advert for it that i presume was made by whichever lunatic bought it from the auction that the dealership I part exchanged it with sent it to. (Yes the dealer knew about the autobox)
(note the comment about the gearbox sticking in high gear when hot, which is balls. it did it at cold, hot, whenever the hell temperature it wanted, and it didn't stick in any gear, the torque converter, or in fact one or more of the solenoids for the torque converter were shafted.)

https://www.gumtree.com/p/saab/saab-9-5-1.9tid-aut...


Oh and i forgot one more thing, The leak off pipes let go and pissed diesel all over the running engine and bonnet liner whilst on the M1, so... much... smoke.



I do have one positive ... i quite liked the wheels.

Fattyfat

3,301 posts

196 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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I had a couple of 9-5s a few years back. A 2.0t and a 2.3t auto. Both great cars and I really regret selling the 2.0, it was a very clean car at shed money. Looked for an Aero but never could find one at the right money/condition. Ended up in a 3.0 Alfa 166 at that time instead.

Ryan-nunm9

207 posts

71 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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I bought one of these only the other week for £500 as scrapped my old Mazda pick up and needed something to get me and the dog through the winter whilst I rebuild my Defender.

A silver 2003 9-5 2.0T estate with 185,000 (I've added another 900) on the clock and an MOT till May 2020. Loads of paperwork covering bill of sale from lease company to Dr so and so, the new engine, turbo and (something I can't remember) under warranty in 2006 at 113,000 as it has the oil issue mentioned in the article. Major service, new clutch and I IIRC water pump in August last year.

Good points - All the work above
bigger touch screen head unit with built in SatNav etc
Reverse camera
Really tidy inside (though not cleaned it properly yet)
Body work and paint is average for mileage etc

Bad points
knocking in suspension - bushes?
Steering wheel buttons don't work due to aftermarket head unit
Cruise not working
Smokey on cold start up
front tyres near limit
A/C doesn't work

Plan is to chance it through MOT, see what it fails on and if less than the £500 I paid for the car and its not been had any issues, try and get another year out of it.

SweptVolume

1,091 posts

93 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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These have been a bargain for a long time now.

I got my 1998 2.3 lpt SE in "Cosmic Blue" (I don't know why I remember that) in 2006 with 109,000 on the clock for a shade over £2000. Just before I bought it, it blew its turbo, so that was replaced by the dealer, and the climate control had the LED issue mentioned above.

Aside from that, it was faultless in the year and a bit I had it. I sold it for the same money I paid = free car.

A couple of points:
1) I believe the original diesel was a 2.0 and sourced from Vauxhall/Opel, rather than a 1.9 Fiat unit.
2) The first couple of years of the 2.3 lpt had 170bhp, rather than the later 185. This is what I had, though the 280 NM of torque meant if felt quicker than it was.
3) If you went too quickly around roundabouts the tyres squealed like an old American police car.
4) The design of the cupholder in the dash never failed to impress and delight!

aeropilot

34,519 posts

227 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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SweptVolume said:
1) I believe the original diesel was a 2.0 and sourced from Vauxhall/Opel, rather than a 1.9 Fiat unit.
Now dimming memory seems to recall the original GM diesel unit in the 9-5/9-3 was in fact a 2.2, which was replaced in the 'Dame Edna' facelift versions by the later Fiat sourced 1.9 unit as used in the last gen 9-3.

BFleming

3,595 posts

143 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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aeropilot said:
SweptVolume said:
1) I believe the original diesel was a 2.0 and sourced from Vauxhall/Opel, rather than a 1.9 Fiat unit.
Now dimming memory seems to recall the original GM diesel unit in the 9-5/9-3 was in fact a 2.2, which was replaced in the 'Dame Edna' facelift versions by the later Fiat sourced 1.9 unit as used in the last gen 9-3.
Correct - the 2.2 GM diesel first appeared in the 9-3 with 115bhp (1998 to 2000) or 125bhp (2000 to 2002); the 9-5 got the 2.2 TiD with 120bhp in Sept 2001 (2002MY).
The 9-5 got the Fiat 1.9JTD 16v (150bhp) engine in Sept 2005, coinciding with the Dame Edna revisions. It never received the twin turbo TTiD version of the JTD engine.
The NG9-5 reveived the Fiat 2.0 diesel in single (160bhp) and twin turbo (190bhp) variants, 2010 to 2012 only.

vallot

1 posts

54 months

Saturday 12th October 2019
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A very good write-up!

The dame edna ed. rusts actually quite a bit. At-least in harsher climates. Seeing a few friends struggling with it — not only the rear wheel arches are bad, but also the doors, front fenders. And this on accident-free cars.

The V6 in the Griffin I own, suits the car surprisingly well (I also have an entry 4-pot in addition), but there are not many left and I guess it wasn't common back then either.





Spanglepants

1,743 posts

137 months

Sunday 13th October 2019
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Biggest mistake i made was selling my 2002 9 5 Aero Hot for an E60 BMW 525D ( and then a BMW E61 530D ) . Id had the engine rebuilt with stronger Saab 9000 rods and pistons. Had the sub frame polybushed as well and it ran the "boost" gauge ran into the red which they don't do standard so possibly it had been worked on before. It had front and rear heated seats, 9 speaker Harmon Kardon with sub, electric memory seats etc. Car was perfect, owed me nothing - no faults and 4th gear roll ons left everything i came across. It did go through front tyres every 4 - 5000 miles though biggrin
Changing to the BMWs cost me at least £15,000 in purchase and many many repairs.
The day i sold it to a young Polish lad and his mates as he pulled off the drive to take it away he crunched the alloy on the kerb badly. Could've cried, checking it on dvla enquiry it doesn't seem to be on the road anymore.






SweptVolume

1,091 posts

93 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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BFleming said:
aeropilot said:
SweptVolume said:
1) I believe the original diesel was a 2.0 and sourced from Vauxhall/Opel, rather than a 1.9 Fiat unit.
Now dimming memory seems to recall the original GM diesel unit in the 9-5/9-3 was in fact a 2.2, which was replaced in the 'Dame Edna' facelift versions by the later Fiat sourced 1.9 unit as used in the last gen 9-3.
Correct - the 2.2 GM diesel first appeared in the 9-3 with 115bhp (1998 to 2000) or 125bhp (2000 to 2002); the 9-5 got the 2.2 TiD with 120bhp in Sept 2001 (2002MY).
The 9-5 got the Fiat 1.9JTD 16v (150bhp) engine in Sept 2005, coinciding with the Dame Edna revisions. It never received the twin turbo TTiD version of the JTD engine.
The NG9-5 reveived the Fiat 2.0 diesel in single (160bhp) and twin turbo (190bhp) variants, 2010 to 2012 only.
bow I stand corrected. I was thinking of the 100bhp 2.0 DTi unit fitted to the Vectra around the turn of the millennium, which I incorrectly assumed also made it into Saab. I was only really interested in the petrols anyway biggrin

aeropilot

34,519 posts

227 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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SweptVolume said:
I was only really interested in the petrols anyway biggrin
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