E class cabriolet delivered with wrong badge
Discussion
Hoofy said:
kambites said:
Hoofy said:
How does "40" relate to a 3 litre turbo then? Surely, it should be 630. Or 630T if they want to make it different from any non-turbo variant?
It doesn't, and it hasn't for decades. It's an indication of the performance of the car relative to others in the range, nothing more. You say decades... taking the 6 series for example, up until 2010 they were still more or less similar to the engine size. 645Ci had a 4.4 litre engine.
Badge number isn't the same as engine size.
Nothing new or surprising.
mengo said:
Hi all,
I have just received my E350 Cabriolet. It is all great except it came with wrong badge, E200 instead of E350 and 4matic. Everything including documents, VIN no, existence of EQ boost (only other EQ boost model cabriolet is E53) confirms that it is E350. Besides, there is no E200 cabriolet at all and 4matic is only available on E450 and E53 Cabriolet.
Mercedes confirmed that it is just a wrong badge and it is booked for rebadging.
Has anyone had similar experience? Given sticking a badge is the most trivial part of the production, should I be worried that something else is wrong as well? To be fair, Mercedes confirmed that they will do more checks other than rebadging. Please, let me know. Thanks in advance.
I wouldn't worry. I used to work for VW and this kind of thing happened all the time. I once delivered a new Jetta to someone and was rather concerned that it wouldn't shift into 6th. Turns out they'd put a 6-speed gearknob on a 5 speed car. I also freaked out when I finally persuaded my dad to abandon his Citroens and buy a mk5 Golf off me. I talked him into an SE spec, as it had some nice features like cruise and auto lights that he might appreciate. Imagine my horror when taking it to fuel up and it had no auto light setting on the switch! It turns out that it did have auto lights, they had just fitted the wrong switch! My dad kept that car for over 4 years and 90,000 miles and no other issues. We also once had a Polo delivered with different seat fabric on the base of the rear seat to what was on the seat back. Weird! The customer who bought it didn't care though, so we never changed it.I have just received my E350 Cabriolet. It is all great except it came with wrong badge, E200 instead of E350 and 4matic. Everything including documents, VIN no, existence of EQ boost (only other EQ boost model cabriolet is E53) confirms that it is E350. Besides, there is no E200 cabriolet at all and 4matic is only available on E450 and E53 Cabriolet.
Mercedes confirmed that it is just a wrong badge and it is booked for rebadging.
Has anyone had similar experience? Given sticking a badge is the most trivial part of the production, should I be worried that something else is wrong as well? To be fair, Mercedes confirmed that they will do more checks other than rebadging. Please, let me know. Thanks in advance.
Edited by mengo on Thursday 10th October 13:12
Working for MG Rover, cars frequently used to turn up with options missing, which was probably worse. As long as it has all the options fitted that you requested then I wouldn't be overly concerned over a badge. Nice car. Enjoy!
TommyBuoy said:
I once had a 1999 E36 323i cab about 10 years ago as a stand in. The newer E46 shape had already come out but the cabriolet forsome reason was left behind.
Came from factory with a 328i twin exhaust on it and was a nightmare when buying parts when giving the age. Always got questioned.
Some of the 323i's always did have twin exhausts - my 97 convertible does. Some do, some don't, for some reason.Came from factory with a 328i twin exhaust on it and was a nightmare when buying parts when giving the age. Always got questioned.
Also, the coupes and convertibles always have lagged about a year behind the launch of the saloons.
I once bought a second hand "Frop Cougar".
Previous owner had bought the Cougar, then been into minor mods and debadged it totally and put Ford Cougar Owner Club (FCOC) badges all round, but then replaced the original badges when putting up for sale. How the heck he restuck the "Ford" as "Frop" I never knew.
Anyway I re-debadged it.
Apart from the side decal 2.5 V6.
I went to a Ford Cougar Owners Club meeting and there were a couple of "Mercury Cougars " (American branding) being talked up biggly as if they were real American imports.
Over the next couple of meets, with the help of a Mondy owning friend over the next few car meets, my 2.5V6 debadged Ford Cougar became a 3.0 V6 (I think one was planned but never made) and at one point a 3.0 ST220.
Eventually the passenger side 2.5 V6 decal was changed to 6.2 V5 in honour of a FCOC member whom blew a cylinder on his V6 (Duratec which he rebadged a Durawreck) trying to get excessive power. At this point some member of the FCOC had "noticed" what I'd been doing and I was told to stop as it gave "modding a bad name". He had a bright orange, lowered, fully spoiler pimped "Mercury". Decided that was probably then end in modding for me as the scene lost all sense of humour.
Mind you, it is good fun with Mercs etc when you meet a x200 owner and go, ah, so in the old days that was a 2.0L but nowadays with the more refined engines it only needs to be a 1600cc to match what an old 2.0 litre engine used to do. Some people still seem obsessed with cylinder capacity rather than powah and torque.
Previous owner had bought the Cougar, then been into minor mods and debadged it totally and put Ford Cougar Owner Club (FCOC) badges all round, but then replaced the original badges when putting up for sale. How the heck he restuck the "Ford" as "Frop" I never knew.
Anyway I re-debadged it.
Apart from the side decal 2.5 V6.
I went to a Ford Cougar Owners Club meeting and there were a couple of "Mercury Cougars " (American branding) being talked up biggly as if they were real American imports.
Over the next couple of meets, with the help of a Mondy owning friend over the next few car meets, my 2.5V6 debadged Ford Cougar became a 3.0 V6 (I think one was planned but never made) and at one point a 3.0 ST220.
Eventually the passenger side 2.5 V6 decal was changed to 6.2 V5 in honour of a FCOC member whom blew a cylinder on his V6 (Duratec which he rebadged a Durawreck) trying to get excessive power. At this point some member of the FCOC had "noticed" what I'd been doing and I was told to stop as it gave "modding a bad name". He had a bright orange, lowered, fully spoiler pimped "Mercury". Decided that was probably then end in modding for me as the scene lost all sense of humour.
Mind you, it is good fun with Mercs etc when you meet a x200 owner and go, ah, so in the old days that was a 2.0L but nowadays with the more refined engines it only needs to be a 1600cc to match what an old 2.0 litre engine used to do. Some people still seem obsessed with cylinder capacity rather than powah and torque.
cerb4.5lee said:
Sheepshanks said:
Fast Bug said:
The old GLE 350d produced 258hp, the 300d makes 245hp with better mpg and emmissions
A lot less torque though. And two fewer cylinders. Anyway I'm hanging on my 270CDi - it really is 2.7 and I love the feel and sound of the 5cyl engine.
My GLC350d is hardly a rocket ship with 258bhp but I'd imagine the GLC220d to be a right slug to drive with its kerbweight. I remember how my 520d touring struggled with 1700kg and that had 177bhp!!
The GLC is better with a slow and steady approach granted, but I think that the 220d would be taking it to the extreme. In fairness to the GLC220d though all the reviews I've read say that it is the one to have, and I guess that is why the 350d(3 litre V6) engine has been dropped now from the GLC.
samoht said:
TommyBuoy said:
Completely off topic, but why do eco friendly cars, or the technology for them have blue badges if theY are 'green' e.g blue efficiency
"Green" risks being a legally binding claim that a product is good for the environment ... when at the end of the day, it's still a machine that turns old dinosaurs into smoke.Hence manufacturers latched onto "Blue" as a way of suggesting a less polluting product, without risking having to defend in court claims that it has zero or positive effect on the environment.
Fastdruid said:
samoht said:
TommyBuoy said:
Completely off topic, but why do eco friendly cars, or the technology for them have blue badges if theY are 'green' e.g blue efficiency
"Green" risks being a legally binding claim that a product is good for the environment ... when at the end of the day, it's still a machine that turns old dinosaurs into smoke.Hence manufacturers latched onto "Blue" as a way of suggesting a less polluting product, without risking having to defend in court claims that it has zero or positive effect on the environment.
StanleyT said:
Fastdruid said:
samoht said:
TommyBuoy said:
Completely off topic, but why do eco friendly cars, or the technology for them have blue badges if theY are 'green' e.g blue efficiency
"Green" risks being a legally binding claim that a product is good for the environment ... when at the end of the day, it's still a machine that turns old dinosaurs into smoke.Hence manufacturers latched onto "Blue" as a way of suggesting a less polluting product, without risking having to defend in court claims that it has zero or positive effect on the environment.
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/volkswag...
Ah, OK, I must have "coloured" my thinking. Worked temping for an exhaust technology company (spin off from power station exhaust clean up) and in around 1196 we had an early Adblue system we tried with Bourenmouth council buses and fleet cars. Of course back then it wasn't called Adblue, but Urea, or piss.
I know it started to go into trucks as part of scer systems but didn't realise it took so long to get into cars!
I know it started to go into trucks as part of scer systems but didn't realise it took so long to get into cars!
StanleyT said:
Ah, OK, I must have "coloured" my thinking. Worked temping for an exhaust technology company (spin off from power station exhaust clean up) and in around 1196 we had an early Adblue system we tried with Bourenmouth council buses and fleet cars. Of course back then it wasn't called Adblue, but Urea, or piss.
I know it started to go into trucks as part of scer systems but didn't realise it took so long to get into cars!
Blimey! You’ve had a good innings! I know it started to go into trucks as part of scer systems but didn't realise it took so long to get into cars!
StanleyT said:
I thought the "Blue" was often as they used AdBlue to remove some of the exhaust crap. Not because it was "green". e.g. BlueMotion vehicles as that was the TM for the Adblue systems for the exhausts?
Didn't Skoda use "Greenline" for their ultra-economical diesel models for a while? Looks like they may have dropped it now. Probably a little embarrassing in the wake of "dieselgate"...Im confused over the Audi badging, i saw an A4 other day, it said 40 on the back, i thought blimey a 4.0 litre in that, then realised it was a 1.4 or something like that. They also put 50 on some models.
When I used to work in sales there was a customer that came in once who was a bit simple. He said Id like a test drive in a Fiesta, the Zeerrtec model and also the Gina please. I said I think you mean Zetec and Ghia sir. No he replied I think you mean Zerrrtec.
When I used to work in sales there was a customer that came in once who was a bit simple. He said Id like a test drive in a Fiesta, the Zeerrtec model and also the Gina please. I said I think you mean Zetec and Ghia sir. No he replied I think you mean Zerrrtec.
wjwren said:
Im confused over the Audi badging, i saw an A4 other day, it said 40 on the back, i thought blimey a 4.0 litre in that, then realised it was a 1.4 or something like that. They also put 50 on some models.
That's why I had my XE debadged. 
Jaguar, in their infinite wisdom, would have badged a 300ps 2-litre as a 30T, and I'm pretty sure that:
A, I'd have got fed up of having to explain that it isn't a 3-litre, and
B, I'd have got even more fed up of boy racers trying it on...
wjwren said:
Im confused over the Audi badging, i saw an A4 other day, it said 40 on the back, i thought blimey a 4.0 litre in that, then realised it was a 1.4 or something like that. They also put 50 on some models.
When I used to work in sales there was a customer that came in once who was a bit simple. He said Id like a test drive in a Fiesta, the Zeerrtec model and also the Gina please. I said I think you mean Zetec and Ghia sir. No he replied I think you mean Zerrrtec.
I can only surmise Audi have realised their TDI-driving demographic and knuckle-draggers only like big numbers. Makes them feel validated when they overtake lesser mortals dangerously - 40 TDI looks so much better than 2.0 TDIWhen I used to work in sales there was a customer that came in once who was a bit simple. He said Id like a test drive in a Fiesta, the Zeerrtec model and also the Gina please. I said I think you mean Zetec and Ghia sir. No he replied I think you mean Zerrrtec.
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