Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 15]

Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 15]

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ian316

962 posts

53 months

Sunday 1st December
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0a said:
I have been giving the w124 a good spanking this weekend down in the boarders.



I have been thinking about selling my w124 and getting a jag x350 but after driving from Hull to Bristol yesterday and back today, I've remembered what great cars they are

Edited by ian316 on Sunday 1st December 15:08

bolidemichael

1,497 posts

149 months

Sunday 1st December
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
0a said:
I have been giving the w124 a good spanking this weekend down in the boarders.



Brilliant photos, looks wonderful, if a bit chilly!
Some nice finger action there, also!

MJK 24

5,379 posts

184 months

Sunday 1st December
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Macron said:
Tiny engine, but £2k, 1993 E200 with lots of recent work done.

https://carandclassic.co.uk/car/C795906
Bit of an oddball here. The pre facelift 124 body with the post facelift four valve per cylinder engine.

I wouldn’t let the cc dissuade you. The 2.0 16v matched the output of the older 2.3 8v with vastly better fuel economy. More so with the manual gearbox here.

That looks like a good find to these eyes.

Prinny

1,287 posts

47 months

Sunday 1st December
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No pictures as I’m an idiot & forgot to take any, but today has been a day of titivating SL2 in preparation for the upcoming CY MOT. The car has done less than 500 miles since I picked it up from Zonergem in February, so it’s to his credit that it’s still running well. However...

1) there’s definitely an oil leak at the NSF of the engine (previously mentioned), can’t see exactly where yet - energies are focused elsewhere.

2) the seat adjuster switches on both doors are off the car, 3/4 of the holding clips on each are broken, so judicious use of tin-snips, a €1 jubilee clip & some superglue has let me make 6 s-shaped pieces that should have the strength to hold, and (hopefully) enough flex to push in & locate. Success pending - superglue still curing.

3) the central locking is FUBAR. Locking using the plipper at the boot locks both doors, but not the boot. Locking the drivers door locks both doors, but not the boot. Locking the passenger door does nothing. The key just does whichever lock it’s inserted into. Leave the car 5 minutes & the glovebox locks itself, as does the passenger door occasionally. Central cubby, door bins & sliding ashtray cover remain firmly locked at all times. One of the airlines has been replaced previously, and it’s got a hairline fracture in it somewhere, as it can’t hold pressure. So I need to get that replaced. It is, of course, one that necessitates stripping the boot, the rear seat, the NS sill & likely the dash/glovebox. For the occasional use it’s going to get, I am tempted to live with this.

4) The grille was loose - three of the six screws had gone AWOL. After a quick trip down the road to the local shop, 3x screws & washers procured, but of course I didn’t bring the screwdriver, so had to drive back there again to replace with slightly longer ones as my initial memory of size was incorrect. Back for the 2nd time & dropping one screw while trying to offer up led me to find that 2 of the missing 3 were actually nestled between the bumper & slam panel (somehow!) so I actually only needed one screw after all.

5) When it rains in CY, it tends to be quite fierce. The soft top is letting water in. After a false start in the boot where the base of the cubby that holds the first aid kit/etc was thought to be the cause (there’s a perforated rubber grommet there), the damp carpet there was actually a loose top on the bottle of coolant. Bugger. Further investigation found that the rubber seal from the soft-top doesn’t quite meet the rubber seal on the rear deck for approx. 1 inch. This is only visible if you lift the hood fabric up and peer along the seal. Some Gummi-pflege & manipulation of the rubber has hopefully cured that, we’ll see.

6) related to 2 & 3, one of the three screws that hold in the stainless door tops is chewed on the head, going to have to sacrifice a small torx into it to remove I think, but I’ll still not be able to remove the door card, as the two big securing screws are in the (locked) door bin. Hopefully the aforementioned airline is split before the door!

To top it all off, two things made my day. I found a cassette tape under the drivers seat, it’s fair to say that Zonergem has a somewhat eclectic taste in music! wink (do you want it back? - let me know & I’ll repatriate it). And to end on a high, as is usual with me & superglue, I managed again to glue thumb & forefinger together. rolleyes I fking hate superglue.

0a

21,619 posts

142 months

Sunday 1st December
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bolidemichael said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
0a said:
I have been giving the w124 a good spanking this weekend down in the boarders.



Brilliant photos, looks wonderful, if a bit chilly!
Some nice finger action there, also!
It wouldn’t be an 0a photo without the fingers getting involved!

I was very glad of the cross climate tyres - there was ice all over the place, but they were predictable and grippy.

0a

21,619 posts

142 months

Sunday 1st December
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I passed this earlier today in Edinburgh. Hubcaps and tiny wheels. It looked very comfortable indeed.



Jimmy Recard

15,842 posts

127 months

Sunday 1st December
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Mini barge news!

I took my brother today and picked up an IS220d, despite all the recommendations not to!
The way he's looking at it, if he gets six months before the head gasket blows, he's fine because it has paid for itself. Then it can go on eBay as spares/repairs.

It's a very nice car. SE-L spec with heated/ventilated seats (not working when we picked up the car, but I found that the switch was simply unplugged!), 3 memory settings for seat and steering wheel position, Mark Levinson hi-fi, rear blind (retracts when you put it into reverse, which I thought was a nice touch) and various nice bits of spec. But those are the highlights. Obviously everything works, because it's a Lexus

No sign of head gasket faults as yet, or oil burning. The seller was happy for me to perform a sniff test on the coolant. All in all, it seems like a really good car. I've had a good drive in it and really like it, although the gear ratios are a bit odd and the gearbox action isn't very nice. He doesn't seem to have noticed those things (people who aren't that interested in cars don't, I suppose)


LetsTryAgain

259 posts

21 months

Sunday 1st December
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Jimmy Recard said:
Mini barge news!

No sign of head gasket faults as yet, or oil burning. The seller was happy for me to perform a sniff test on the coolant. All in all, it seems like a really good car. I've had a good drive in it and really like it, although the gear ratios are a bit odd and the gearbox action isn't very nice. He doesn't seem to have noticed those things (people who aren't that interested in cars don't, I suppose)
Congratulations, and fingers crossed!
Is the gearbox serviceable?
Oil and filter change could really help if so.

Jimmy Recard

15,842 posts

127 months

Sunday 1st December
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LetsTryAgain said:
Congratulations, and fingers crossed!
Is the gearbox serviceable?
Oil and filter change could really help if so.
It’s a manual (they all are, I think). I think it’s just how they are - the road tests from 2006 criticise it!

It has positive signs. Yuasa battery, Bosch wiper blades and oem spec Goodyear tyres

LetsTryAgain

259 posts

21 months

Sunday 1st December
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Jimmy Recard said:
It has positive signs. Yuasa battery, Bosch wiper blades and oem spec Goodyear tyres
There is SOME hope then!

Macron

3,971 posts

114 months

Sunday 1st December
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The IS Diesel (“ISD”) was known to the German three as the “ISE”.

It started with BMW marketing, who were worried about the big Jap moving into their home turf more than you would expect, however, the SE in marketing terms was the “Skoda Effect”, where Skoda were st, VW bought them, objectively the first few cars still weren’t actually that good.

However, as your expectations were at carpet level, when they turned out to be not actually diabolical, people thought they were much better than they were. This gave marketing departments nightmares as your expectations of the blue and white prop were high, and when you got really good, it was fairly underwhelming. BM thought this most unfair, and many hours and much currency was expended attempting to deal with it.

The IS was a revelation in diesel form. As it was “not excellent”, but expectations of all Lex buyers were through the roof, those buyers considered the faults far worse than they really were.

This became the Inverse Skoda Effect, where your expectations are high, and minor defects can seem catastrophic.

Hence the ISD became the ISE, a lesson for all in marketing.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

23,605 posts

160 months

Sunday 1st December
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Macron said:
The IS Diesel (“ISD”) was known to the German three as the “ISE”.

It started with BMW marketing, who were worried about the big Jap moving into their home turf more than you would expect, however, the SE in marketing terms was the “Skoda Effect”, where Skoda were st, VW bought them, objectively the first few cars still weren’t actually that good.

However, as your expectations were at carpet level, when they turned out to be not actually diabolical, people thought they were much better than they were. This gave marketing departments nightmares as your expectations of the blue and white prop were high, and when you got really good, it was fairly underwhelming. BM thought this most unfair, and many hours and much currency was expended attempting to deal with it.

The IS was a revelation in diesel form. As it was “not excellent”, but expectations of all Lex buyers were through the roof, those buyers considered the faults far worse than they really were.

This became the Inverse Skoda Effect, where your expectations are high, and minor defects can seem catastrophic.

Hence the ISD became the ISE, a lesson for all in marketing.
That's really interesting. Although judging by the number of ISs I see on the road compared to 3 series they needn't have worried too much.

My dealer's garage said they heard the issues with my LS but couldn't find the problem and didn't want to start replacing parts unless they were sure they would resolve the issue rolleyes however.... And I'm really surprised at this...... I can get parts at trade price, labour at £25/hour at a very busy (busiest in Europe I believe) tyre and servicing company. It's going there a week Wednesday. The dealer has agreed ti pay them the costs providing parts at trade price and the labour is that price. Result. Well.... When he's paid and it's sorted. Will definitely give him a positive review if he follows through with that.

In other news, I was in Bournemouth last night and spotted a C126 560SEC! Mega barge coupe! Looked glorious!

Macron

3,971 posts

114 months

Sunday 1st December
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Even though it's only £3k, you're not going to buy this S type R. Not just because you've already decided the XJ R is lighter, less of a munter, and has the same engine, but because it's covered 174k.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...

What's surprising is how many other S type R's have been well used. £3500 gets you one with 176k!

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...

They are not immune from the, frankly bizarre pricing of the more svelte X350 though, here's one at £4750 with 92k on.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...

Here's another with 92k on. Ten grand...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...

Emeye

7,999 posts

171 months

Sunday 1st December
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Slow said:
My nascar noise at the moment... It’s louder in person, can’t talk to someone next to you.

https://youtu.be/IUKu2mFzhGc


This is what it says when you try pick a gear despite you being able to see it has revs so is on. Just keeps going back to P. Got a obd2 diagnostic cable on the way to read some codes.

A while back, when I had a BMW, I bought a cheap Bluetooth obd adapter and bought a specialist BMw specific obd diagnostic app for about £35 which was very good and has been continuously improved. If you have an iPhone you need a WiFi obd adapter.

I can’t remember the name of the damned app at the moment as it is installed on my work android phone which isn’t with me at the moment - I’ll find out and let you know.

ETA Carly - it really does seem to have moved on and advanced since since I used it a few years ago. https://www.mycarly.com/en/app/bmw/


Edited by Emeye on Sunday 1st December 21:03

Jimmy Recard

15,842 posts

127 months

Sunday 1st December
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Macron said:
The IS Diesel (“ISD”) was known to the German three as the “ISE”.

It started with BMW marketing, who were worried about the big Jap moving into their home turf more than you would expect, however, the SE in marketing terms was the “Skoda Effect”, where Skoda were st, VW bought them, objectively the first few cars still weren’t actually that good.

However, as your expectations were at carpet level, when they turned out to be not actually diabolical, people thought they were much better than they were. This gave marketing departments nightmares as your expectations of the blue and white prop were high, and when you got really good, it was fairly underwhelming. BM thought this most unfair, and many hours and much currency was expended attempting to deal with it.

The IS was a revelation in diesel form. As it was “not excellent”, but expectations of all Lex buyers were through the roof, those buyers considered the faults far worse than they really were.

This became the Inverse Skoda Effect, where your expectations are high, and minor defects can seem catastrophic.

Hence the ISD became the ISE, a lesson for all in marketing.
I used logic along those lines when we were debating what car he wanted. It's obviously not an LS - it couldn't be, as a smaller, four cylinder diesel car with a manual gearbox. It does seem (to me) to be a very good car for its class though.

I also had the suspicion that although the head gasket is obviously the weakest point of the car, it probably doesn't occur in any greater numbers than BMW timing chain failure. That happened to a friend of mine and he is very bitter, but acknowledges that the frequency of the issue probably seems higher thanks to the complaints on internet forums.

Ultimately, every model has its common issues and unexpected faults can occur to any car. I think that this is an ideal car for this user and it seems faultless at present, which is all you can hope for. It was also cheaper than a similar car from a rival manufacturer (320d, C220 CDI or A4 2.0 TDI)

After everything I've heard online, I was pleasantly surprised by it. Now to hope that it has no significant faults for a while! I'm terrified that I've found him a bad one, but I really have done my very best to check the car thoroughly

IS250 owners on forums seem petrified of faults on these cars, but I think that they are probably serial Lexus owners who have had faultless cars for so long that they are horrified by the idea of any fault. Their standards are very high

Scooobydont

103 posts

142 months

Sunday 1st December
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Looks like a nice Cayenne, full history but MOT check shows a few years missing?



https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Edited by Scooobydont on Sunday 1st December 23:19

rider73

235 posts

25 months

Monday 2nd December
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just of £1700 for a nice looking Superb runner (like what i did there!) , V6 too.....

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

how does one do the IMAGE as a link thing, like the porsche above?



Scooobydont

103 posts

142 months

Monday 2nd December
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rider73 said:
just of £1700 for a nice looking Superb runner (like what i did there!) , V6 too.....

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

how does one do the IMAGE as a link thing, like the porsche above?
Right click on the image you want to save and save it to your desktop. Then when you are replying use 'the upload image' option, select the image saved and upload it. I then just copy and paste the actual link to the car below the photo uploaded.

Krikkit

16,750 posts

129 months

Monday 2nd December
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Scooobydont said:
rider73 said:
just of £1700 for a nice looking Superb runner (like what i did there!) , V6 too.....

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

how does one do the IMAGE as a link thing, like the porsche above?
Right click on the image you want to save and save it to your desktop. Then when you are replying use 'the upload image' option, select the image saved and upload it. I then just copy and paste the actual link to the car below the photo uploaded.
Or right-click the image, click "Copy Image Location" or the similar text (depending on browser) then embed that in your post between [thumb ] [/ thumb] or [img ] [/ img] tags (without spaces).

Slow

4,618 posts

85 months

Monday 2nd December
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L322 decided it doesn’t like me having other barges. Day after that e65 arrived I went out and the car had decided to have a leak from the front bag. £70 for a cheap replacement but the time/effort of doing it frown