What's the fastest 'feeling' car you've been in?
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Byker28i said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Same for me with my Cerbera 4.5 and the noise and rawness of the engine really gives you that feeling of speed. In reality though its probably not all that quick but it certainly feels it for me.
160 felt quick to me with the bonnet flapping about and the car bouncing all over the road! The same speed in my E92 M3 and it only felt like I was doing 70! The lightness of the Cerb and the feeling that it could drop to bits certainly adds to the fun.
Time for that photo again... Brunters - the essence of speed was more about the thumps as it went over the concrete joints, it felt quite stable160 felt quick to me with the bonnet flapping about and the car bouncing all over the road! The same speed in my E92 M3 and it only felt like I was doing 70! The lightness of the Cerb and the feeling that it could drop to bits certainly adds to the fun.
Someone said motorbikes - big motorbike acceleration is just on a completely different level to cars, so fast, so exposed...
Maybe the part of the M1 that I was on needed resurfacing then!
Smart motorways have certainly spoilt the fun now though.
I would have loved to do what you did at Brunters for sure.
There are four for me that stand out.
On a really good b road i always find my Mk3 Clio 200 'feels' very fast. I know it's not but i think it's got a sensation of going much faster than you are.
My brother in laws Exige. The sense of speed when it comes onto vtec is quite something, combined with the fact the aftermarket air filter is next to your head so it's bloody loud.
Cayman GT4, was lucky to be taken out in one as a passenger for around an hour, one very long straight bit of road and the way it built up speed at the same level to scary number felt incredible.
F type R, the noise helps with this one. Just threw me back in the seat and was pretty incredible
On a really good b road i always find my Mk3 Clio 200 'feels' very fast. I know it's not but i think it's got a sensation of going much faster than you are.
My brother in laws Exige. The sense of speed when it comes onto vtec is quite something, combined with the fact the aftermarket air filter is next to your head so it's bloody loud.
Cayman GT4, was lucky to be taken out in one as a passenger for around an hour, one very long straight bit of road and the way it built up speed at the same level to scary number felt incredible.
F type R, the noise helps with this one. Just threw me back in the seat and was pretty incredible
My time frame of fear.
18 – Friend’s heavily molested Fiat Uno, first time I had ever been in a fast car and I still remember it like it was yesterday.
21 – First (and only time) on the back of a bike. Nothing amazing but my God I was scared.
30 – E60 M5 – Dealer floored it, me and the wife looked at each other in utmost fear (bought it 30 minutes later).
39 – 600LT Spider – The speed coupled with the noise due to the exhausts being so close to your head, crikey, felt way faster than a 720s. Thankfully I was driving it, I would have been in pieces as a passenger.
18 – Friend’s heavily molested Fiat Uno, first time I had ever been in a fast car and I still remember it like it was yesterday.
21 – First (and only time) on the back of a bike. Nothing amazing but my God I was scared.
30 – E60 M5 – Dealer floored it, me and the wife looked at each other in utmost fear (bought it 30 minutes later).
39 – 600LT Spider – The speed coupled with the noise due to the exhausts being so close to your head, crikey, felt way faster than a 720s. Thankfully I was driving it, I would have been in pieces as a passenger.
Dave Hedgehog said:
My just registered and tuned ST205 Homologation back when most company cars would take 5 days to hit 100mph, everyone incl my little and very proper mum yelled ‘f
k me’
after that it was my friends EVO VI Extreme with a RS450 engine mod, you spent more time changing gears than actually using any gear ...
Now it’s my Tesla
Interested to hear what the RS450 engine mod was? (I own one of the 4 original RS450s....) k me’ after that it was my friends EVO VI Extreme with a RS450 engine mod, you spent more time changing gears than actually using any gear ...
Now it’s my Tesla
I think we have got to the point where numbers will cease to matter as much, as for years and years we have wanted more and more performance, 8/9 sec to sixty used to be rapid and now you can get hot hatchbacks that are in that ball park to 100 mph.
The Tesla Model S is the first really, really rapid EV, with EV's its not the whole point of a car, just a neat party piece afforded by the way electric motors work, fairly on in mainstream EV development we have a model that will do sixty in 2.5 seconds and Porsche just added another. Like with all electronics performance increases over time and gets cheaper so we will have so much performance capability most EV's will be capable of sub 5 sec 0-60 times and similar in gear (I know they only have one gear in the main) unless they actually get limited to be slower. As battery tech improves more and more EV's will be similarly ballistic as the motors are already there.
IC performance has increased as well, even for more mundane cars, a Golf diesel will do sub 8 to sixty and is very punchy in gear, and really, its probably fast enough for most of us, most of the time if we are honest.
I find that the performance available, for road use has got a bit out of control, acceleration is over too quickly and you end up going very fast.
Would prefer to take say a 90s hot hatch down a country road than an EV, part of it is the feeling of acceleration but also the noise and the feeling that you are using all the performance, rather than backing off all the time.
The Tesla Model S is the first really, really rapid EV, with EV's its not the whole point of a car, just a neat party piece afforded by the way electric motors work, fairly on in mainstream EV development we have a model that will do sixty in 2.5 seconds and Porsche just added another. Like with all electronics performance increases over time and gets cheaper so we will have so much performance capability most EV's will be capable of sub 5 sec 0-60 times and similar in gear (I know they only have one gear in the main) unless they actually get limited to be slower. As battery tech improves more and more EV's will be similarly ballistic as the motors are already there.
IC performance has increased as well, even for more mundane cars, a Golf diesel will do sub 8 to sixty and is very punchy in gear, and really, its probably fast enough for most of us, most of the time if we are honest.
I find that the performance available, for road use has got a bit out of control, acceleration is over too quickly and you end up going very fast.
Would prefer to take say a 90s hot hatch down a country road than an EV, part of it is the feeling of acceleration but also the noise and the feeling that you are using all the performance, rather than backing off all the time.
I used to have a 300bhp Celica GT4. I thought that was fast until someone gave me a ride in a highly tuned Audi RS4 - can't remember the exact figure but IRO 700bhp. That thing altered space time as it was accelerating. When I got back into my car I thought it was broken it felt so slow by comparison.
My Evo VIII MR from a few yeras was shy of 600bhp, that felt quick, most people thought the same. Around the same time, my friends 700+bhp Evo IX with Samsonas sequential box felt a bit like a rollercoaster ride, the sounds and lack of refinement added to the fast 'feeling' if that makes sense. Both Evos were stripped. Literally felt pinned to the seat everytime the loud pedle was pressed.
A recent drive of another rmates 570GT refreshed my memeory of how quick a car can feel. I've got used to to thinking my mapped 535d is quick.. it isn't in comparison to the McLaren.
Generally, I feel a turbo charged car will feel quicker than a N/A due to the higher torque spike, the faster rate of change of acceleration. The quickest non turbo car I've been in was the E60 M5, didn't feel as quick as I had expected, but the engine sounded very very special at high rpm.
A recent drive of another rmates 570GT refreshed my memeory of how quick a car can feel. I've got used to to thinking my mapped 535d is quick.. it isn't in comparison to the McLaren.
Generally, I feel a turbo charged car will feel quicker than a N/A due to the higher torque spike, the faster rate of change of acceleration. The quickest non turbo car I've been in was the E60 M5, didn't feel as quick as I had expected, but the engine sounded very very special at high rpm.
Byker28i said:
Time for that photo again... Brunters - the essence of speed was more about the thumps as it went over the concrete joints, it felt quite stable
Someone said motorbikes - big motorbike acceleration is just on a completely different level to cars, so fast, so exposed...
Agreed !! Someone said motorbikes - big motorbike acceleration is just on a completely different level to cars, so fast, so exposed...
The feeling I can always remember most vividly is early 90's, been taken out in a mates TVR350i, rover engine (modified, I've no idea how) and the fibreglass bodywork. It was around the time close family had Astra/Nova GTE's, and the TVR just felt completely insane in comparison. Point and shoot stuff! I was a mid teen back then.
Later years nothing jumps out, my Integrale feels lairy as hell, but that's due to having some speed in a 30 year old car i'm sure. Biggest thrills in recent years have definitely been on 2 wheels (Fireblades/GSXR1000).
Later years nothing jumps out, my Integrale feels lairy as hell, but that's due to having some speed in a 30 year old car i'm sure. Biggest thrills in recent years have definitely been on 2 wheels (Fireblades/GSXR1000).
With me driving, a single seater at Palmersport. Bearing in mind that one's backside is but a few inches from the tarmac!
With someone else driving, a 911 Turbo back in mid 70's on the corniche coastal roads in the south of France, driven by the then Porsche works driver, John Fitzpatrick. Awesome skills. Despite having been in more modern cars that are, technically, quicker, the way he drove was just sublime. It was just quick, in every way.
With someone else driving, a 911 Turbo back in mid 70's on the corniche coastal roads in the south of France, driven by the then Porsche works driver, John Fitzpatrick. Awesome skills. Despite having been in more modern cars that are, technically, quicker, the way he drove was just sublime. It was just quick, in every way.
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