RE: Litchfield Porsche Carrera 4 S (992) | Driven

RE: Litchfield Porsche Carrera 4 S (992) | Driven

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ravon

529 posts

229 months

Thursday 7th November
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Just watched young Sid North driving a GT3 on his video channel , as a 65 year old life time enthusiast, I doff my cap , very impressive car control and sensible commentary on the car, particularly from a “Lotus man” ! More power to your elbow fellow !

Panjy

90 posts

93 months

Thursday 7th November
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Amazing power increase from just a remap, well done Litchfield.

sr.guiri

323 posts

36 months

Thursday 7th November
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That for only a grand you can add that much power is fantastic. As some have pointed out, that's cheaper than a stereo upgrade.

It doesn't change the fact however that the car looks like a pig and is so MAHOOOSIVE.



the_hood

444 posts

141 months

Thursday 7th November
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The catch is that you'll void your warranty on a new Porsche.

AndorranPhil

24 posts

3 months

Thursday 7th November
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je777 said:
It's not going to solve any of the 'flaws' (depending on your POV) of the 992.........................
iI'd be interested to know what these "flaws" are?

cerb4.5lee

12,784 posts

127 months

Thursday 7th November
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Arsecati said:
There's something wrong with this comments section: nobody has come on yet and said 'I'd have mine with a manual' or 'it would have to be a manual', or some other reference to this car only being 'proper' if it had a manual! wink
Porsche dropped the manual in the GT3 and then decided to bring it back because that is what punters wanted. So there is still a market for a manual I think.

What doesn't sit well with me is that this 911 is classed as a sports car, for me a car that weighs this much is more of a GT. Appreciate what everyone feels is a sports car is very subjective though.

Jaroon

1,125 posts

107 months

Thursday 7th November
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Hate the way pork holds its money but this, in three years after some southerner has showed it the redline half a dozen times, could be that most elusive of purchases, a bargin used Porsche. I think it's fantastic (at £60K, 20,000 miles FSH) while the Turbo is gasping to justify itself.

sidesauce

1,072 posts

165 months

Thursday 7th November
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Zumbruk said:
sidesauce said:
wab172uk said:
But, I now feel sorry for future owners of these cars.
I wouldn't. I couldn't care less about any of the owners of cars I no longer own. What happens to those cars once they are not mine is no longer my concern, nor my problem.

wab172uk said:
But that sums up society these days. I'm alright, sod everyone else.
And rightfully so - I don't expect anyone to look out for me and if I bought a car secondhand that went on to have problems, I'm not blaming the former owner more than I am blaming myself for not doing my due diligence before purchasing!


Edited by sidesauce on Thursday 7th November 10:17
Remind me never to buy a car from you.
Never buy a car from me? I'd never sell a car to you. Not would I sell a car to anyone privately.

SidewaysSi

5,978 posts

181 months

Thursday 7th November
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Jaroon said:
Hate the way pork holds its money but this, in three years after some southerner has showed it the redline half a dozen times, could be that most elusive of purchases, a bargin used Porsche. I think it's fantastic (at £60K, 20,000 miles FSH) while the Turbo is gasping to justify itself.
What has being a "southerner" got anything to do with it? What about a Midlander? Would a Northerner redline it 7 times?

Ho Lee Kau

1,862 posts

72 months

Thursday 7th November
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NJJ said:
It never gets commented on articles about Litchfield, but what warranty cover do they offer if any for their mods? It makes perfect sense to mod the car once the standard manufacture warranty has expired but from new, surely its lunacy? Does not matter how wealthy you are if you are hit with a gearbox/engine re-build it will hurt.
What is standard manufacturer warranty? Porsche offers official warranty up to 10 years.

Porsche911R

17,817 posts

212 months

Friday 8th November
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"Somebody show us the catch..."

warranty on a brand new >£100k car VOID !!! pretty big catch....

buy a turbo S.

untakenname

2,401 posts

139 months

Friday 8th November
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Most the people that will pay for this remap will likely be leasing (otherwise they would buy the Turbo S outright) so they will remap it for a couple of years then take the map off and hand it back, unless they suffer engine issues I doubt anyone (Porsche, insurers) will be any the wiser.

If I were to spend £100k I'd get a Caymen S for £50k as a road car and then spend the rest on an older 996 GT3 for track.

OT but hearing both side by side recently I actually prefer the sound of the four cylinder boxers now to the six, they've tweaked them to rumble like older Subaru's.

A.G.

1,144 posts

197 months

Friday 8th November
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soad said:
ReaperCushions said:
This generation and the previous one have very much moved into the GT car realm rather than a true out and out sports car. They are big, heavy and designed for luxury/comfort (R models aside).
I’d say the biggest “move” was from the 993 to a 996 (for “safety” regulations?). Even 964 looks tiny in comparison.
The 996 was actually lighter than the 993.

thelostboy

3,615 posts

172 months

Friday 8th November
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cowboyengineer said:
chelme said:
991 GT3 with TWO engine changes...WOW! And there are hacks like Chris Harris and another fanboys who extoll the virtues of 'honest' 'bombproof' Porkers...

It just goes to show how much utter BS flies about these cars.
Not really. Porsche know there was a problem. Have admitted it and given all 991.1gt3s 10 year engine warranty. And since they upgrade the engine when they fix it with new parts to stop the issue then they are now pretty bombproof
Actually, that isn't true. There is still an inherent flaw that means engines that are used regular at high RPM still fail (so basically, if tracked as intended). If you want a bulletproof 991 GT3, you have to get a Gen 2.

For me, it's the little things. For example, my Macan needs a headlight issue resolved and it's 6 months old. It also has an annoying intermittent issue where the mirrors fold in only when they feel like it. Overall, I love my Porsches but there is no way I am willing to risk an engine or drivetrain.

As someone has said, if you can afford a new 911 and the risk of not having a warranty, you can afford the upcoming 911 Turbo, so just get one of those.

Mapping makes sense 5 years down the line, where I'd be first in the queue!

Deep

752 posts

190 months

Friday 8th November
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Same old nonsense spouted by people who will never own the car/own old Porsches and hate everything modern/think anything other than a Caterham or Elise isn't a driver's car.

The 992 C4S is a fantastic car from the factory. Monikers like 'GT car' are arbitrary, subjective and completely irrelevant. If the point of doing so is to try and put the 992 into the same category as an AM, Mercedes SL, Bentley etc then its laughable.

I've driven the 992 C4S and it's an absolute peach as an every day all weather performance car that's exciting to drive.

If I can't afford the new 992 Turbo/S then I'll be buying one; and there is no way I'd take it to Litchfield or anybody else for tuning

PorkInsider

3,698 posts

88 months

Friday 8th November
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untakenname said:
Most the people that will pay for this remap will likely be leasing (otherwise they would buy the Turbo S outright)
If there's logic in there, it's bypassed me.

mwstewart

5,610 posts

135 months

Friday 8th November
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Can't argue with that for the small outlay. Seems like a great daily. The lack of warranty wouldn't concern me.

Jaroon

1,125 posts

107 months

Friday 8th November
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SidewaysSi said:
Jaroon said:
Hate the way pork holds its money but this, in three years after some southerner has showed it the redline half a dozen times, could be that most elusive of purchases, a bargin used Porsche. I think it's fantastic (at £60K, 20,000 miles FSH) while the Turbo is gasping to justify itself.
What has being a "southerner" got anything to do with it? What about a Midlander? Would a Northerner redline it 7 times?
I'm in the Midlands and though worse year on year I'm still only 15 minutes from some decent driving roads where local knowledge gives me the chance to explore the performance. My experience of most of the south (with exceptions) is if you want a spirited drive you need to get up at 4am or drive quite a distance, it just wouldn't see the same opportunities as when driven in the north. We need something damn it! The grimness is real smile

Davey S2

12,128 posts

201 months

Friday 8th November
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untakenname said:
If I were to spend £100k I'd get a Caymen S for £50k as a road car and then spend the rest on an older 996 GT3 for track.
What if you have kids so need rear seats and / or don't like track driving?

This is Turbo S performance for £40K less(depending on what the new 992 Turbo S lists at)

pilotdan

35 posts

138 months

Friday 8th November
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Love that they can do this.

But I just don't know who takes a £100k car and throws the warranty out of the window.

Even post warranty, you could end up with some massive bills.