Whats the most annoying thing about your car?

[RobM77]

C70R said:

BMW 225xe - The electric boot close on the inside of the lid is, helpfully, one-touch. Yet pressing the keyfob button once simply moves the bootlid ~6 inches. I can't see a world where that could be considered useful..

Isn't that just a safety feature, whereby you have to hold the button down to close the boot completely?

[anonymous-user]

Alfa 147 JTDm, over all I really like it, it handles nicely, isn't painfully slow and fairly economical. The thing that really annoys me is the heater. You can put it on the windscreen where it will happily blow until it decides, seemingly for no reason to switch to feet. You never notice until the windscreen starts to steam up again, and I get its not the biggest deal in the world but after a couple of years of it its annoying me more and more!

[C70R]

RobM77 said:

C70R said:

BMW 225xe - The electric boot close on the inside of the lid is, helpfully, one-touch. Yet pressing the keyfob button once simply moves the bootlid ~6 inches. I can't see a world where that could be considered useful..

Isn't that just a safety feature, whereby you have to hold the button down to close the boot completely?

I suspect so.

It's frustrating, nevertheless.

[C70R]

RobM77 said:

C70R said:

Fastdruid said:

C70R said:

Fastdruid said:

Muzzer79 said:

2017 BMW 5 series

I have to select the driving mode I want EVERY time I start it up. Why can’t it remember the last setting?

Because of emissions testing. They have to default to the best economy setting because the testers aren't allowed to "press buttons". Hence everything defaults to economy mode and you cannot disable the mode.

I don't think that's true. My BMW hybrid defaults to the "Comfort" setting, whereas "Eco Pro" is more economical.

It absolutely is why it defaults but as to why BMW set it to default to "Comfort" rather than "Eco Pro" will be for another reason. Maybe it's because Eco Pro doesn't go fast enough (limit for WTLP is 131Km/h while in eco pro it's limited to either 90km/h or 80-130km/h). Or maybe it's because the changes are to things that aren't turned on during the test (no seat heating, no heated windows on, no climate control on etc).

There's no speed limit in Eco Pro mode. It's just the most economical driving mode.

I can also configure the hybrid settings separately (from max charging to max battery).

I genuinely think you're barking up the wrong tree with this one.

Eco Pro is configurable from the iDrive and those settings are permanently remembered. Speed limit/warning (I can't remember which) is an option, as is limiting the climate control, and on later cars coasting when you back off (unless you're going downhill enough to increase speed, or braking). If you like you can turn everything off in the iDrive, and all you get then is a poor throttle response, a low gain on the throttle pedal, and if you have an auto it'll change up earlier. Comfort mode though is default, so interestingly that'll presumably be the mode used by the standard EU emissions tests? Or maybe the tests allow a different mode to be selected?

Our car doesn't seem to permanently remember the driving mode setting that was last used, and always defaults to "Comfort" on startup...

Do I need to delve deeper into the iDrive menu?

[RobM77]

C70R said:

RobM77 said:

C70R said:

Fastdruid said:

C70R said:

Fastdruid said:

Muzzer79 said:

2017 BMW 5 series

I have to select the driving mode I want EVERY time I start it up. Why can’t it remember the last setting?

Because of emissions testing. They have to default to the best economy setting because the testers aren't allowed to "press buttons". Hence everything defaults to economy mode and you cannot disable the mode.

I don't think that's true. My BMW hybrid defaults to the "Comfort" setting, whereas "Eco Pro" is more economical.

It absolutely is why it defaults but as to why BMW set it to default to "Comfort" rather than "Eco Pro" will be for another reason. Maybe it's because Eco Pro doesn't go fast enough (limit for WTLP is 131Km/h while in eco pro it's limited to either 90km/h or 80-130km/h). Or maybe it's because the changes are to things that aren't turned on during the test (no seat heating, no heated windows on, no climate control on etc).

There's no speed limit in Eco Pro mode. It's just the most economical driving mode.

I can also configure the hybrid settings separately (from max charging to max battery).

I genuinely think you're barking up the wrong tree with this one.

Eco Pro is configurable from the iDrive and those settings are permanently remembered. Speed limit/warning (I can't remember which) is an option, as is limiting the climate control, and on later cars coasting when you back off (unless you're going downhill enough to increase speed, or braking). If you like you can turn everything off in the iDrive, and all you get then is a poor throttle response, a low gain on the throttle pedal, and if you have an auto it'll change up earlier. Comfort mode though is default, so interestingly that'll presumably be the mode used by the standard EU emissions tests? Or maybe the tests allow a different mode to be selected?

Our car doesn't seem to permanently remember the driving mode setting that was last used, and always defaults to "Comfort" on startup...

Do I need to delve deeper into the iDrive menu?

Ah, sorry, perhaps I wasn't clear: the parameters of Eco Pro are configurable in the iDrive, but the default mode on startup isn't - my F10 just starts on Comfort every time.

What I'm interested in is the thread above: are the EU tests allowed to use Eco Pro mode, even though it requires a button press after the car is started? Or do those tests have to use the default mode?

[el romeral]

Bit of a first world problem perhaps? On my ML55 there are 3 small buttons up by the rear view mirror. They are to be used to learn from remote controls. I have one set up for opening my electric gate but cannot get the second one to work for opening my Hormann electric double garage door. I believe it is to do with it being a newer style and having rolling codes, although I understand it should be possible to make it work? My other cars do not have these buttons so I do not worry about them.

[Tall_Blk]

thebigmacmoomin said:

MellowshipSlinky said:

Wife’s car - Golf R.
To defrost the door mirrors, instead of them being linked to the rear de-mister (like every other car I’ve had), you have to turn the toggle switch for adjusting the mirrors.

Ford's heated mirrors are linked to the heated front windscreen which is more logical

It’s the same on VW. You just need to leave the mirror knob on defrost and it’ll come in when the rear one is switched on

[anonymous-user]

Banjaxed88 said:

2010 Mazda 6 diesel. The turning circle is feckin awful. I

I’ve driven a ‘70’s Caddilac Eldorado and that’s literally on full lock to get round the M25

[Fastdruid]

RobM77 said:

C70R said:

RobM77 said:

C70R said:

Fastdruid said:

C70R said:

Fastdruid said:

Muzzer79 said:

2017 BMW 5 series

I have to select the driving mode I want EVERY time I start it up. Why can’t it remember the last setting?

Because of emissions testing. They have to default to the best economy setting because the testers aren't allowed to "press buttons". Hence everything defaults to economy mode and you cannot disable the mode.

I don't think that's true. My BMW hybrid defaults to the "Comfort" setting, whereas "Eco Pro" is more economical.

It absolutely is why it defaults but as to why BMW set it to default to "Comfort" rather than "Eco Pro" will be for another reason. Maybe it's because Eco Pro doesn't go fast enough (limit for WTLP is 131Km/h while in eco pro it's limited to either 90km/h or 80-130km/h). Or maybe it's because the changes are to things that aren't turned on during the test (no seat heating, no heated windows on, no climate control on etc).

There's no speed limit in Eco Pro mode. It's just the most economical driving mode.

I can also configure the hybrid settings separately (from max charging to max battery).

I genuinely think you're barking up the wrong tree with this one.

Eco Pro is configurable from the iDrive and those settings are permanently remembered. Speed limit/warning (I can't remember which) is an option, as is limiting the climate control, and on later cars coasting when you back off (unless you're going downhill enough to increase speed, or braking). If you like you can turn everything off in the iDrive, and all you get then is a poor throttle response, a low gain on the throttle pedal, and if you have an auto it'll change up earlier. Comfort mode though is default, so interestingly that'll presumably be the mode used by the standard EU emissions tests? Or maybe the tests allow a different mode to be selected?

Our car doesn't seem to permanently remember the driving mode setting that was last used, and always defaults to "Comfort" on startup...

Do I need to delve deeper into the iDrive menu?

Ah, sorry, perhaps I wasn't clear: the parameters of Eco Pro are configurable in the iDrive, but the default mode on startup isn't - my F10 just starts on Comfort every time.

What I'm interested in is the thread above: are the EU tests allowed to use Eco Pro mode, even though it requires a button press after the car is started? Or do those tests have to use the default mode?

Again, it is tested in the default mode. You can't press any buttons. There *will* be a reason why BMW chose comfort over Eco Pro as the default. It is entirely possible it gets better economy but worse emissions in Eco Pro (eg NOx) as for example running lean means higher cylinder temps and higher NOx

[Demelitia]

The climatronic unit coming off of ‘ECON’, switching the air con on when I’d rather it was off. I often don’t notice until I park the car up then come back to find the windscreen misted up by all the condensed moisture in the ducts.
I much prefer the system in my 130i where I can run all the climate controls independently of the air-con and then choose when it comes on myself.

That and the drivers side interior door handle isn’t attached correctly so if I forget to press down on it when pulling the door shut it comes way from the door, window and central locking switches and all.

[C70R]

Fastdruid said:

RobM77 said:

C70R said:

RobM77 said:

C70R said:

Fastdruid said:

C70R said:

Fastdruid said:

Muzzer79 said:

2017 BMW 5 series

I have to select the driving mode I want EVERY time I start it up. Why can’t it remember the last setting?

Because of emissions testing. They have to default to the best economy setting because the testers aren't allowed to "press buttons". Hence everything defaults to economy mode and you cannot disable the mode.

I don't think that's true. My BMW hybrid defaults to the "Comfort" setting, whereas "Eco Pro" is more economical.

It absolutely is why it defaults but as to why BMW set it to default to "Comfort" rather than "Eco Pro" will be for another reason. Maybe it's because Eco Pro doesn't go fast enough (limit for WTLP is 131Km/h while in eco pro it's limited to either 90km/h or 80-130km/h). Or maybe it's because the changes are to things that aren't turned on during the test (no seat heating, no heated windows on, no climate control on etc).

There's no speed limit in Eco Pro mode. It's just the most economical driving mode.

I can also configure the hybrid settings separately (from max charging to max battery).

I genuinely think you're barking up the wrong tree with this one.

Eco Pro is configurable from the iDrive and those settings are permanently remembered. Speed limit/warning (I can't remember which) is an option, as is limiting the climate control, and on later cars coasting when you back off (unless you're going downhill enough to increase speed, or braking). If you like you can turn everything off in the iDrive, and all you get then is a poor throttle response, a low gain on the throttle pedal, and if you have an auto it'll change up earlier. Comfort mode though is default, so interestingly that'll presumably be the mode used by the standard EU emissions tests? Or maybe the tests allow a different mode to be selected?

Our car doesn't seem to permanently remember the driving mode setting that was last used, and always defaults to "Comfort" on startup...

Do I need to delve deeper into the iDrive menu?

Ah, sorry, perhaps I wasn't clear: the parameters of Eco Pro are configurable in the iDrive, but the default mode on startup isn't - my F10 just starts on Comfort every time.

What I'm interested in is the thread above: are the EU tests allowed to use Eco Pro mode, even though it requires a button press after the car is started? Or do those tests have to use the default mode?

Again, it is tested in the default mode. You can't press any buttons. There *will* be a reason why BMW chose comfort over Eco Pro as the default. It is entirely possible it gets better economy but worse emissions in Eco Pro (eg NOx) as for example running lean means higher cylinder temps and higher NOx

That's an angle I hadn't considered. Fair points.