The truth about tyre repairs.
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If you were doing a bungee jump would you still be comfortable jumping knowing the Bungee had previously been repaired because of damage, or a parachute?
The difference there is you will probably only kill yourself if it goes tits up, you're dicing with other people's lives repairing tyres in my opinion.
It's a few hundred quid in the majority of cases for a new tyre. Sometimes alot cheaper and others more but we all buy cars we can afford to run, right......?
The difference there is you will probably only kill yourself if it goes tits up, you're dicing with other people's lives repairing tyres in my opinion.
It's a few hundred quid in the majority of cases for a new tyre. Sometimes alot cheaper and others more but we all buy cars we can afford to run, right......?
A1VDY said:
Yes, they are simple to do but... you'll need to remove the tyre to do it. I'm a powerfully built muscle bound ape but I still couldn't remove a tyre from a rim without a tyre machine to do it. The two spoon method doesnt work btw.. ??
He's talking about those snotty string repairs that are a bit s
t and not really anything I'd ever trust.The best compromise for home repairs I've found is the stop and go puncture kit, but these again aren't supposed to be permanent repairs.
If you don't mean actual spoons, then the tyre lever method does work. It's how I part worn gumtree specials at home.
PaulPGreen said:
Most of the time I always get a new tyre fitted.
Not worth the risk
Which is it, most or always? Also, what risk?Not worth the risk
I suspect rather than intelligently assess the situation you take the easy option every time and console yourself that the money potentially wasted is actually money well spent?
A1VDY said:
DaveCWK said:
Get yourself a tyre puncture repair kit if you're finding garages being difficult - plug repairs for screws etc are really not hard to do at all & there's really no much to go wrong - pushing the tool with the rubber strip through the tyre is about the hardest part, but no problem if you're powerfully built.
Yes, they are simple to do but... you'll need to remove the tyre to do it. I'm a powerfully built muscle bound ape but I still couldn't remove a tyre from a rim without a tyre machine to do it. The two spoon method doesnt work btw.. ??I went through a phase of getting loads of punctures, to the extent that I thought it was sabotage. It was costing me a small fortune so I ended up buying a dynaplug tool and a 12v compressor. It's ace, I've plugged at least 5 punctures by the roadside, and rightly or wrongly left them in till the tyre needs replacing due to wear. 10/10 would recommend
Ive had tyres repaired regularly throughout the 25 years of driving, never had a single problem, Complete b0llocks. I even ran repaired used tyres on my track car, again never an issue. The litigious culture we live in today prevents us from adopting any form of risk, particularly if they can squeeze a few quid out of you.
DaveH23 said:
If you were doing a bungee jump would you still be comfortable jumping knowing the Bungee had previously been repaired because of damage, or a parachute?
The difference there is you will probably only kill yourself if it goes tits up, you're dicing with other people's lives repairing tyres in my opinion.
It's a few hundred quid in the majority of cases for a new tyre. Sometimes alot cheaper and others more but we all buy cars we can afford to run, right......?
Jesus Christ.The difference there is you will probably only kill yourself if it goes tits up, you're dicing with other people's lives repairing tyres in my opinion.
It's a few hundred quid in the majority of cases for a new tyre. Sometimes alot cheaper and others more but we all buy cars we can afford to run, right......?
Leptons said:
DaveH23 said:
If you were doing a bungee jump would you still be comfortable jumping knowing the Bungee had previously been repaired because of damage, or a parachute?
The difference there is you will probably only kill yourself if it goes tits up, you're dicing with other people's lives repairing tyres in my opinion.
It's a few hundred quid in the majority of cases for a new tyre. Sometimes alot cheaper and others more but we all buy cars we can afford to run, right......?
Jesus Christ.The difference there is you will probably only kill yourself if it goes tits up, you're dicing with other people's lives repairing tyres in my opinion.
It's a few hundred quid in the majority of cases for a new tyre. Sometimes alot cheaper and others more but we all buy cars we can afford to run, right......?
DaveH23 said:
If you were doing a bungee jump would you still be comfortable jumping knowing the Bungee had previously been repaired because of damage, or a parachute?
The difference there is you will probably only kill yourself if it goes tits up, you're dicing with other people's lives repairing tyres in my opinion.
It's a few hundred quid in the majority of cases for a new tyre. Sometimes alot cheaper and others more but we all buy cars we can afford to run, right......?
I wouldn't do a bungee jump full stop. What has that got to do with repairing a puncture? The difference there is you will probably only kill yourself if it goes tits up, you're dicing with other people's lives repairing tyres in my opinion.
It's a few hundred quid in the majority of cases for a new tyre. Sometimes alot cheaper and others more but we all buy cars we can afford to run, right......?
How is repairing a tyre dicing with people's lives if done properly?
There are certain things I won't do, like run different tyres front and rear, especially on RWD cars, but doing a puncture repair I can't see the issue.
How about those 4x4 vehicles that need all the tyres replacing at once to prevent drivetrain damage?
Repair the tyre or replace all four? Thats a £1200 puncture, pretty annoying if the tyres are only half worn.
What if the tyres fitted are no longer available, you aren't supposed to mix tyres across an axle so thats at least a pair needed then.
Repair the tyre or replace all four? Thats a £1200 puncture, pretty annoying if the tyres are only half worn.
What if the tyres fitted are no longer available, you aren't supposed to mix tyres across an axle so thats at least a pair needed then.
kev b said:
How about those 4x4 vehicles that need all the tyres replacing at once to prevent drivetrain damage?
Repair the tyre or replace all four? Thats a £1200 puncture, pretty annoying if the tyres are only half worn.
What if the tyres fitted are no longer available, you aren't supposed to mix tyres across an axle so thats at least a pair needed then.
I totally agree with this. Tyres can be one of the major running costs these days. If you've got a long commute and you're using a 4x4 or a car with 18 inch or bigger low profile tyres or a staggered setup you can easily spend £1k plus annually on tyres. A proper patch repair is fine. Repair the tyre or replace all four? Thats a £1200 puncture, pretty annoying if the tyres are only half worn.
What if the tyres fitted are no longer available, you aren't supposed to mix tyres across an axle so thats at least a pair needed then.
gizlaroc said:
DaveH23 said:
If you were doing a bungee jump would you still be comfortable jumping knowing the Bungee had previously been repaired because of damage, or a parachute?
The difference there is you will probably only kill yourself if it goes tits up, you're dicing with other people's lives repairing tyres in my opinion.
It's a few hundred quid in the majority of cases for a new tyre. Sometimes alot cheaper and others more but we all buy cars we can afford to run, right......?
I wouldn't do a bungee jump full stop. What has that got to do with repairing a puncture? The difference there is you will probably only kill yourself if it goes tits up, you're dicing with other people's lives repairing tyres in my opinion.
It's a few hundred quid in the majority of cases for a new tyre. Sometimes alot cheaper and others more but we all buy cars we can afford to run, right......?
How is repairing a tyre dicing with people's lives if done properly?
There are certain things I won't do, like run different tyres front and rear, especially on RWD cars, but doing a puncture repair I can't see the issue.
I’ve had probably getting on for a dozen tyre repairs in the last 5 or 6 years for slow punctures caused by the cretins in the unit across the road constantly breaking up pallets and then sweeping the debris into the road (despite our regular complaints)
Loads of work colleagues have had the same too.
Never heard of anyone having an issue with a repair
Loads of work colleagues have had the same too.
Never heard of anyone having an issue with a repair
DaveH23 said:
If you were doing a bungee jump would you still be comfortable jumping knowing the Bungee had previously been repaired because of damage, or a parachute?
The difference there is you will probably only kill yourself if it goes tits up, you're dicing with other people's lives repairing tyres in my opinion.
It's a few hundred quid in the majority of cases for a new tyre. Sometimes alot cheaper and others more but we all buy cars we can afford to run, right......?
The difference there is you will probably only kill yourself if it goes tits up, you're dicing with other people's lives repairing tyres in my opinion.
It's a few hundred quid in the majority of cases for a new tyre. Sometimes alot cheaper and others more but we all buy cars we can afford to run, right......?
What a load of old guff.nitrodave said:
Gojira said:
NotBenny said:
rightly or wrongly, you'll never get a sensible answer. The "experts" are the manufacturers or retailers who want you to buy more tyres, and don't want to get a bad rep for fixing tyres that subsequently fail. They play it safe. No, not all "dodgy" repairs (overlapping patches, same quarter of tyre, close to sidewall) will fail, but some will. You might want to take the risk, some people won't.
My philosophy is that st happens. I've had 2 punctures in about 15 years of driving, neither repairable, so my total motoring costs are about £250-300 more than they otherwise would have been. Drop in the ocean really.
"Dodgy" repairs do fail...My philosophy is that s
t happens. I've had 2 punctures in about 15 years of driving, neither repairable, so my total motoring costs are about £250-300 more than they otherwise would have been. Drop in the ocean really.SWMBO uses a walking stick a fair bit now, because a tight git overlapped patches on a bike front inner tube, and the tube split in the middle of a bend at 50, back in the late 70's, leaving her with a broken ankle that almost healed fine...
A "dodgy" repair might not fail, but if it does, will you be happy to face the possible consequences?
Tyre repairing is not some dodgy art. It's rubber, you plug it, under pressure the plug is pushed tight, and after a while it merges with the true rubber, much like self amalgamating tape.
I also ride off road and it is VERY common to bung tyres with the dog-turd repairs - the ones you push in with a spike. We ride on road at least 50% of the time. Madness, all of it!
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 13th November 08:59
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