RE: Fiat Stilo 2.4 Abarth | Shed of the Week
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s m said:
braddo said:
This incessant talk about old cars rising in values gets very tiring. Some cars might rise after a while, but we're talking about an Italian shed with s
t steering feel (a vital aspect versus modern cars) and which has been barried up. It's an interesting shed and worth the money but it just feels like a stretch to talk about how this shed is going to make some money...
t steering feel (a vital aspect versus modern cars) and which has been barried up. It's an interesting shed and worth the money but it just feels like a stretch to talk about how this shed is going to make some money...
I don’t know how they manage to make 170 horses so slow but the chassis doesn’t seem to want to help
Good find Mr.Middlehurst. I remember being far too excited about this when it came out.
PS I’ve found next weeks SOTW for you.
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Which seems to have been hilariously mis listed.
PS I’ve found next weeks SOTW for you.
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Which seems to have been hilariously mis listed.
greenarrow said:
dinkel said:
It might be lovely but I will choose a 2 litre 147 every day of the week.
Why? Drive one
Might take you up on that as I'm currently in the cheap car market - do they drive well? Why? Drive one
Back on topic again
dinkel said:
The 1.6 is nothing special but the TS 2 litre we drive is every inch a GTi in Alfa clothing. With 225 tires and just 150 brake on tap I make 911 cars of our R Gruppe runs a bit shy. Only in the corners of course. It's average quick - rev and shift, just like you'd do in a VTEC Honda - and steers like a dream. It does like caring hands so choose a good garage and don't expect it to run as cheap as a Kia...
Back on topic again
Each to their own but I wouldn't really call a 147 2.0 TS a GTI at all. The GTI I was used to was a 306 GTi6. Some years ago I made the move from the 306 into the Alfa. Back on topic again
While the Alfa was a whole lot more comfortable and grown up, it didn't have a patch on the 306 when it came to being a hot hatch. Hardly a surprise when I don't really think that's what the 147 was meant for.
The Alfa just didn't seem to enjoy being hustled along a B road, felt quite soft and there was next to no feel from the steering. Engine was decent enough but again not as rev happy as the Peugeot and perhaps most notably it didn't have the same close ratio 6 speed gearbox to keep it in the power band all the time.
I stepped out of the Alfa after around 6 months of ownership and got myself another 306
Those Stilo Abarth are cheap to buy, in NL from 500,-euro a complete drivable car with a good engine.
I'm always wondering, would such lovely 5 cill 170hp (without tuning) engine and more, fit in the back of a Fiat X1/9
that could make a great combo and will make such lightweight Bertone X1/9 alive with a great soundtrack.
Here such engine without the big plastic cover, wonder if that would fit, also what more you could use from the donor car.
Its a cheap option to try it out for someone handy with a nice garage.
cheers :-)
I'm always wondering, would such lovely 5 cill 170hp (without tuning) engine and more, fit in the back of a Fiat X1/9
that could make a great combo and will make such lightweight Bertone X1/9 alive with a great soundtrack.
Here such engine without the big plastic cover, wonder if that would fit, also what more you could use from the donor car.
Its a cheap option to try it out for someone handy with a nice garage.
cheers :-)
Despite only ever owning Italian cars, I've never been a fan of the Stilo as a whole and to me, quite an embarrassment to the Abarth name especially as the last proper Abarth was the Strada 130TC. 170BHP from a 2.4 in-line 5 shows that it was built for torque which is no bad thing.
Saying that, there is pretty nice one near me in scarlet red which may be a Schumacher version which has some huge calipers/discs so maybe a 2.4 hybrid running a turbo which is a popular mod on the Coupes.
I can't see these ever going up in price to be honest. The Tipo 16v hasn't really shot up and the Strada 130TC is fluctuating at around £10-12K for a minter.
Saying that, there is pretty nice one near me in scarlet red which may be a Schumacher version which has some huge calipers/discs so maybe a 2.4 hybrid running a turbo which is a popular mod on the Coupes.
I can't see these ever going up in price to be honest. The Tipo 16v hasn't really shot up and the Strada 130TC is fluctuating at around £10-12K for a minter.
asimmalik said:
Each to their own but I wouldn't really call a 147 2.0 TS a GTI at all. The GTI I was used to was a 306 GTi6. Some years ago I made the move from the 306 into the Alfa.
While the Alfa was a whole lot more comfortable and grown up, it didn't have a patch on the 306 when it came to being a hot hatch. Hardly a surprise when I don't really think that's what the 147 was meant for.
The Alfa just didn't seem to enjoy being hustled along a B road, felt quite soft and there was next to no feel from the steering. Engine was decent enough but again not as rev happy as the Peugeot and perhaps most notably it didn't have the same close ratio 6 speed gearbox to keep it in the power band all the time.
I stepped out of the Alfa after around 6 months of ownership and got myself another 306
Fair enough and each to their own. I'm happy with the 2.0 and up till now there's no FWD car which seems a better mix hustling around the lanes and doing Long Hauls to Croatia or Spain.While the Alfa was a whole lot more comfortable and grown up, it didn't have a patch on the 306 when it came to being a hot hatch. Hardly a surprise when I don't really think that's what the 147 was meant for.
The Alfa just didn't seem to enjoy being hustled along a B road, felt quite soft and there was next to no feel from the steering. Engine was decent enough but again not as rev happy as the Peugeot and perhaps most notably it didn't have the same close ratio 6 speed gearbox to keep it in the power band all the time.
I stepped out of the Alfa after around 6 months of ownership and got myself another 306
Cambs_Stuart said:
Interesting. I test drove one of these about 10 years ago. It was good fun and the engine/gearbox combination worked really well.
However the rear seats and boot were very small and i needed room for baby stuff. So i bought an ST170 instead, which had a worse gearbox, but was an all round better car. Apart from it's appetite for sensors and IMRC modules.
Ps. Just read the ad. Has it really got a refrigerated glovebox?
Glovebox not as fancy as it sounds, if its like my old A4 just a vent coming in from the A/C but a nice touch though! Cold coke cans, chocolate bars and driving gloves as i recall.However the rear seats and boot were very small and i needed room for baby stuff. So i bought an ST170 instead, which had a worse gearbox, but was an all round better car. Apart from it's appetite for sensors and IMRC modules.
Ps. Just read the ad. Has it really got a refrigerated glovebox?
Edited by Cambs_Stuart on Friday 15th November 07:07
blue_haddock said:
1974foggy said:
Glovebox not as fancy as it sounds, if its like my old A4 just a vent coming in from the A/C but a nice touch though! Cold coke cans, chocolate bars and driving gloves as i recall.
Same as my 2010 kia ceed then! ecsrobin said:
And FN shape civics. The downside is when you forget you have left the vent open Chuck a chocolate bar in and then turn the heating on!
And the Porsche 928, in 1978 ! Thread resurrection due to me buying one of these today for not much more than pocket change... Hoping to clean it up and polish a bit of value back into it.... !
I remember in Autocar (I think) they were interviewing someone really senior in Fiat who said people were going to be really surprised by the driving dynamics of these. I was hoping he meant in a good way.
Saying that, my pal had one in Ireland and it seemed good on those roads and most of them are awful.
Saying that, my pal had one in Ireland and it seemed good on those roads and most of them are awful.
Interested to see this thread resurrected. Can't remember the last time I saw a Fiat Stilo of any designation. Seems sadly, that Fiats are some of the first cars to be scrapped. My old Cinquecento Sporting and Punto Sporting both disappeared off the GOV/UK radar many many years go.
I can imagine this might be decent on rough country roads, I understand the Stilo always rode quite well, it just lack decent handling dynamics.
Almost like unicorns old sporty Fiats these days. I suspect surviving Tipo 16V, Bravo HGTs and these Stilos could well be in single or low double digit figures.......
I can imagine this might be decent on rough country roads, I understand the Stilo always rode quite well, it just lack decent handling dynamics.
Almost like unicorns old sporty Fiats these days. I suspect surviving Tipo 16V, Bravo HGTs and these Stilos could well be in single or low double digit figures.......
greenarrow said:
Interested to see this thread resurrected. Can't remember the last time I saw a Fiat Stilo of any designation. Seems sadly, that Fiats are some of the first cars to be scrapped. My old Cinquecento Sporting and Punto Sporting both disappeared off the GOV/UK radar many many years go.
I can imagine this might be decent on rough country roads, I understand the Stilo always rode quite well, it just lack decent handling dynamics.
Almost like unicorns old sporty Fiats these days. I suspect surviving Tipo 16V, Bravo HGTs and these Stilos could well be in single or low double digit figures.......
I'll post some photos - I've just had a look on howmanyleft and it seems like there are a grand total of x39 taxed o they do appear to be quite rare. I am guessing not many were sold in the first place!I can imagine this might be decent on rough country roads, I understand the Stilo always rode quite well, it just lack decent handling dynamics.
Almost like unicorns old sporty Fiats these days. I suspect surviving Tipo 16V, Bravo HGTs and these Stilos could well be in single or low double digit figures.......
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