New build render/cladding options

New build render/cladding options

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wcel

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108 posts

123 months

Monday 18th November
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I'm currently designing a new build TF house in rural Aberdeenshire and looking in to options to finish the exterior of it. We were set on a modern white render (such as K-rend) however having now seen houses which are around 5 years old with this finish, it's obvious that the render becomes discoloured and is impossible to clean.

I don't really want to be painting the full exterior of the house every 5 years to keep it fresh so does anyone know of other suitable options in the same price bracket, or cheaper?

We are against wood cladding of any sort
Pebbledashing is a bit of a dated option
Zinc/slate would be too expensive and not in keeping with the area

Is there any wander product would fit the bill that I'm missing?




Jambo85

1,644 posts

36 months

Monday 18th November
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Having the same debate also in rural Aberdeenshire...! Our build is in progress though so need to decide fast. I didn’t realise K-rend ages badly so thanks for that..!

We have plenty of wood cladding biggrin

Ours is an extension rather than a new build, we had planned to remove the render from the pebble dashed granite parts and pick and point with lime mortar. We ended up with a gable that looks great but found another wall has been hacked about too much with blocks everywhere so needs rendered.

Could you use some kind of stone cladding?

Edited by Jambo85 on Monday 18th November 10:54

sfella

260 posts

56 months

Monday 18th November
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Have you guys looked at Marley cerdral cladding. It a maintenance free cement based cladding, have used it myself and it went well.

Escort3500

5,561 posts

93 months

Monday 18th November
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Marley cladding looks quite good if it’s fixed with care; I’ve seen some with poor joints etc.

I’m surprised K-rend has discoloured in such a short period. There are a few houses near us that have it (or a similar thru-tone make of render) and it looks fine after 10-12 years. Maybe the Aberdeen climate is the problem?!

wcel

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108 posts

123 months

Monday 18th November
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sfella said:
Have you guys looked at Marley cerdral cladding
I hadn't but have just had a look. I'd be a bit concerned about it looking shiny, caravan like, but will see if i can find some examples around Aberdeen to go look at. We may look at using a combination of that to break up the render if we have to go that route

It's not really the style we want but may be a compromise we have to make

jambo85 said:
Having the same debate also in rural Aberdeenshire...!
I think I know where you are, we looked at a plot just beside you, with the railway behind?

Escort3500 said:
I’m surprised K-rend has discoloured in such a short period. There are a few houses near us that have it (or a similar thru-tone make of render) and it looks fine after 10-12 years. Maybe the Aberdeen climate is the problem?!
Really? Maybe the specific example I looked at up close has just been unlucky then. Although I have noticed quite a few where there are consistent black streak marks at the end of windowsills and below vent points etc. Speaking to the owners, there doesn't seem to be a product that can shift the marks either

OldGermanHeaps

2,315 posts

126 months

Monday 18th November
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the k rend is really bad for picking up green mould too, noticed it on a few recent renovations in glasgow, strangely some of a similar age still look new. maybe something in the application technique or maybe it is when it is done in conjunction with ewc?
all the ones that look really bad were rendered on top of kingspan, I dont know what is under the good ones though.

Jambo85

1,644 posts

36 months

Monday 18th November
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wcel said:
jambo85 said:
Having the same debate also in rural Aberdeenshire...!
I think I know where you are, we looked at a plot just beside you, with the railway behind?
Eek there’s a lesson in Internet anonymity! Yes, it fits that description, curious where the plot was that you looked at? Is it somewhere in this area you’ve ended up?

Watching with interest to see what you end up with, our architect reckons k-rend is great stuff.

wcel

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108 posts

123 months

Monday 18th November
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Jambo85 said:
Eek there’s a lesson in Internet anonymity!
thumbup

Jambo85 said:
curious where the plot was that you looked at? Is it somewhere in this area you’ve ended up?
In the field to the West of the last house wink

Jambo85 said:
our architect reckons k-rend is great stuff.
Our builders words (as well as some other builders we spoke to) were avoid it at all costs

paulrockliffe

9,447 posts

175 months

Monday 18th November
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I looked at K Rend recently and found lots of good stuff from installers and lots of bad stuff too. Couldn't find enough to give me confidence so I stuck with the original plan. Just waiting for the cedral to be delivered. Get some samples if you're interested, it looks good. I've had a bit of a faff on with it though, with some of the essential profiles not available until the new year!

Chicken Chaser

5,703 posts

172 months

Monday 18th November
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I have a rear single storey extension that needs rendering or cladding and was looking at either weberpral render as an alternative to K Rend, or Cedral or Hardieplank to clad it.

The render option is safer as I know what it'll look like. The cladding option may make it look like a large shed with bifolds stuck to the back of 60s house. I'm yet to make a decision on it.

Jambo85

1,644 posts

36 months

Monday 18th November
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wcel said:
Jambo85 said:
curious where the plot was that you looked at? Is it somewhere in this area you’ve ended up?
In the field to the West of the last house wink
Mmmm that doesn't quite fit (I hope!). Is the house that you think is mine already clad, with a glass gable looking onto the A947? Lovely building but not mine I'm afraid, I'm about a mile from there and mine isn't clad yet, and I have no immediate neighbours nor (I think) is there a plot for sale next to me....!

Is your actual build in this area too?

wcel said:
Jambo85 said:
our architect reckons k-rend is great stuff.
Our builders words (as well as some other builders we spoke to) were avoid it at all costs
This is good to know, thanks.




wcel

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108 posts

123 months

Monday 18th November
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Jambo85 said:
looking onto the A947?... I have no immediate neighbours nor (I think) is there a plot for sale next to me....!
Nowhere near where I was thinking, I must have you confused with someone else from PH! tumbleweed

Jambo85 said:
Is your actual build in this area too?
Oldmeldrum is the nearest civilisation of size

Jambo85 said:
Could you use some kind of stone cladding?
I suspect we'll end up with a mix of stone, render and upvc/fibre cement boards at this stage

garyhun

27,935 posts

176 months

Monday 18th November
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I used Cedral on my self-build and it’s a very good alternative to wood - not shiny at all.

Has anyone suggested composite cladding such as Coastline? I saw it on a property recently and it looked OK although I could not get close.

Jambo85

1,644 posts

36 months

Monday 18th November
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wcel said:
Jambo85 said:
looking onto the A947?... I have no immediate neighbours nor (I think) is there a plot for sale next to me....!
Nowhere near where I was thinking, I must have you confused with someone else from PH! tumbleweed
smile Nice area you have picked!

barryrs

2,792 posts

171 months

Monday 18th November
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I had similar concerns on my self build as I have a number of trees close by.

My contractor got the Weber (same as k-rend) rep out who put together a spec and it looks great around 18 months later.

Working for a housing Developer I see plenty of rough looking render that’s not very old and the issue is that cost drives the spec.

paulrockliffe

9,447 posts

175 months

Monday 18th November
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Further to my last post, mine arrived an hour later without warning, so lucky I was in. It also included the profiles I was told weren't available, which is confusing, but handy!

Looks like decent stuff. In terms of comparison with render, I'm sure either will just blend in rather than standing out, once you're used to it it won't look out of place. I went for the C05 Grey, which is really just slightly off-white.

PAUL500

1,543 posts

194 months

Monday 18th November
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The James Hardie version of Cedral is just as good, and far more competitively priced. It is widely used in the US. Not shiny like plastic cladding and can be painted with masonry paint if you fancied a change of colour at some point in the future. It pressure washes back to like new easily enough every few years. Very DIY friendly to instal.

Used it a few times now, gives a New England look without being over the top.

https://www.squaredealupvcshop.co.uk/product/cedar...


wcel

Original Poster:

108 posts

123 months

Tuesday 19th November
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barryrs said:
got the Weber (same as k-rend) rep out who put together a spec and it looks great around 18 months later.
Any idea what was different about the spec from normal?

m3jappa

4,437 posts

166 months

Tuesday 19th November
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What about the spray on silicone render? i got a bit done outside and its around a year old now still looks good/clean.

I don't love the finish as its quite coarse/bobbly but by all accounts this is 1.5mm and you can get 1mm and float it up. We only did this as mate did it as a favour and its up around a balcony so wasnt too fussed.

Aluminati

517 posts

6 months

Tuesday 19th November
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PAUL500 said:
The James Hardie version of Cedral is just as good, and far more competitively priced. It is widely used in the US. Not shiny like plastic cladding and can be painted with masonry paint if you fancied a change of colour at some point in the future. It pressure washes back to like new easily enough every few years. Very DIY friendly to instal.

Used it a few times now, gives a New England look without being over the top.

https://www.squaredealupvcshop.co.uk/product/cedar...
All products along this line are good...but, they supply an end grain touch up paint. Under no circumstances use this on the face finish. Also, don’t leave a labourer to ‘tidy up’ .

It’s an expensive exercise biggrin