F56 Mini headlights brighter than the sun?

F56 Mini headlights brighter than the sun?

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JonnyVTEC

3,005 posts

175 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
I think some of the newest cars have laser lights which are brighter still!
They only work above 50mph, no traffic and no streetlights around....

AW111

9,674 posts

133 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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RSTurboPaul said:
Try driving a low car on a motorway as these come past in L2 in the dark (or anything with LED headlights TBH) - your mirrors are basically just for decoration at that point, as you are blinded if you use them to actually try to see behind you.
Definitely.


anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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I don’t tend to get dazzled by modern LED headlights thankfully, but Minis are very much the exception to that. If there’s one approaching from behind on a motorway I move my arm to block the door mirror until it’s gone past. I’m amazed they managed to get through any kind of certification/type approval.

Loplop

1,937 posts

185 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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SWMBO has a JCW and the lights are bloody bright, certainly at least as good as the F10 Dad had.

However surely the above issues are just a case of bad adjustment/not dipping the lights for load as appropriate? Me and her are both over 6 foot which effectively renders the rear seats useless and the car never has more than an overnight bag in the boot, so it's never loaded up and very rarely do the lights project anywhere near to the rear windows of the cars in front.

I don't believe the lights are self levelling like traditional xenons would be, but I could be wrong. If not, maybe that's the solution?

mikeswagon

690 posts

141 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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I drove an 2014 F56 Cooper with LED headlights for almost 5 years, before I got the Clubman.... which went last week... doh!

Anyway the LED lights are really good, loved the way the switch between full and dipped is instant. I did get flashed a few times, when I flashed back in reply you could see their little faces properly lit.

With my Cooper the indicators weren't very visible, but on the LCI models the whole DRL is the indicator, so that's a decent improvement.

AS for the F54 brake lights, I think that's one of the worst bits of them, and definitely easy to think they're running with fogs on.

bristolracer

5,535 posts

149 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Love the fact those getting flashed have to put their main beam on just to show the already blinded driver how good their lights really are.
No! look this is my main beam isn't it bright?

Dont like rolls

3,798 posts

54 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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bristolracer said:
Love the fact those getting flashed have to put their main beam on just to show the already blinded driver how good their lights really are.
No! look this is my main beam isn't it bright?
Yep, they keep popping up don't they, there is a strange lack of connection going on it their brains.

mikeswagon

690 posts

141 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Dont like rolls said:
bristolracer said:
Love the fact those getting flashed have to put their main beam on just to show the already blinded driver how good their lights really are.
No! look this is my main beam isn't it bright?
Yep, they keep popping up don't they, there is a strange lack of connection going on it their brains.
And how else would I have let the oncoming driver know that I have in fact got dipped beam on? It's just a quick flash, I've not left them looking like Richard Dreyfus in close encounters.

Don't suggest going to side-lights or a quick switch off, A) that's not really very safe, and might confuse the hard of thinking, B) MINI designed the light switches and their location last thing on a Friday afternoon, pretty much hidden by the wheel.

Aberdeen and the shire are awash with MINIs, I've never mistaken one for having full beams on, but If these really are that bad, please accept my sincere apologies.

Currently driving an '06 5 series kindly loaned by a mate, so I'm ok for now.



PSRG

652 posts

126 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Limpet said:
Has to be an alignment issue. We have an F54 Clubman with LEDs and have never been flashed by an oncoming car in 30,000 miles.

Fantastic headlamps. Probably the best of any car I've driven.
I’ve no complaints about the LEDs in our Clubman. However, I think they’re engineered to illuminate at just under the level that requires headlight washers and auto levelling. 2,000 lumens I think. I’m pretty sure ours has neither, and so perhaps this is the cause of the problem? I’m away at the moment otherwise I’d check smile

Court_S

12,899 posts

177 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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mikeswagon said:
Dont like rolls said:
bristolracer said:
Love the fact those getting flashed have to put their main beam on just to show the already blinded driver how good their lights really are.
No! look this is my main beam isn't it bright?
Yep, they keep popping up don't they, there is a strange lack of connection going on it their brains.
And how else would I have let the oncoming driver know that I have in fact got dipped beam on? It's just a quick flash, I've not left them looking like Richard Dreyfus in close encounters.

Don't suggest going to side-lights or a quick switch off, A) that's not really very safe, and might confuse the hard of thinking, B) MINI designed the light switches and their location last thing on a Friday afternoon, pretty much hidden by the wheel.

Aberdeen and the shire are awash with MINIs, I've never mistaken one for having full beams on, but If these really are that bad, please accept my sincere apologies.

Currently driving an '06 5 series kindly loaned by a mate, so I'm ok for now.
I flashed back a few times, mainly at those who flashed loads or out their full beams on in spite. The alignment on the lights were fine (it was mentioned to the dealer). They’re just sodding bright.
I’d get a few flashes in my old vRS too which had xenons.

I’m amazed at how bad old halogens are; the bulbs in my other half’s E87 were awful. They really been swapped out for some Philips jobbies which are much better.

cerb4.5lee

30,491 posts

180 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Funnily enough I haven't been flashed at in my F56 Mini, but whenever I see a F56 I do think that their lights are bright though.

The only car I've actually been flashed at in was my X5 4.8iS and it only had Xenons(I guess it was the height of the headlights though).

Sensibleboy

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1,143 posts

125 months

Monday 25th November 2019
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Actually went in a Mini Clubman the other night...I can confirm the lights lit up the rear of the car in front way more than it would it any previous car I'd been in.

fatboy b

9,492 posts

216 months

Monday 25th November 2019
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I’ve adjusted mine down slightly, but they do wander themselves if you accelerate or brake. I still get flashed over the brow of a hill. Yes they are bloody bright.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 25th November 2019
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Don't expect the MOT to pick up these sort of misalignments, their equipment isn't accurate enough to set the beams 'properly' but then again neither is the manufacturers kit.

Modern mini headlights are a right pain in the retina, one of my cars has led rear brake lights and I am conscious of not keeping my foot on the brake because they are so bright in the dark, others are less considerate I'm sure.

Steamer

13,856 posts

213 months

Monday 25th November 2019
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gottans said:
...one of my cars has led rear brake lights and I am conscious of not keeping my foot on the brake because they are so bright in the dark, others are less considerate I'm sure.
Funny you should say that - I was sat behind an X3 at the lights the other evening and they had their foot in the brake the whole time.. I did consider giving them a blast of full-beam but thought the intention might be misinterpreted.

However it did get me thinking, with autos becoming more popular and lights getting brighter (not to mention people becoming less considerate!) will this be more common place?

I remember my mates all making a thing of it when we all passed our driving tests 'Dude.. take your foot off the brake!!'...

JonnyVTEC

3,005 posts

175 months

Monday 25th November 2019
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With reference to brake lights: I just press my brakes a touch harder when at a stop, hold pops up on the dash and I can come of the brake and the only only moves off when I press accelerator. Evoque mk2

Hopefully more cars will adopt that approach.

Fermit and Sexy Sarah

12,908 posts

100 months

Monday 25th November 2019
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LED lights, I wish. Both dipped beam bulbs on the works Kangoo simultaneously blew the other evening. I now have no (dipped) lights. Needing to make sure I'm home before sunset till I get it sorted laugh

Edited by Fermit and Sexy Sarah on Monday 25th November 21:49

Harleyboy

620 posts

159 months

Monday 25th November 2019
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Steamer said:
Funny you should say that - I was sat behind an X3 at the lights the other evening and they had their foot in the brake the whole time.. I did consider giving them a blast of full-beam but thought the intention might be misinterpreted.

However it did get me thinking, with autos becoming more popular and lights getting brighter (not to mention people becoming less considerate!) will this be more common place?

I remember my mates all making a thing of it when we all passed our driving tests 'Dude.. take your foot off the brake!!'...
The brake lights are probably only on because the car will have an auo hand brake which keeps the brake lights on regardless of whether feet are on the pedal....

Harleyboy

620 posts

159 months

Monday 25th November 2019
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I have a new 3 series with adaptive laser lights, even brighter than LED’s. Super clever and even brighter than the MINI’s (got one of those so can compare!)

MC Bodge

21,620 posts

175 months

Monday 25th November 2019
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Harleyboy said:
I have a new 3 series with adaptive laser lights, even brighter than LED’s. Super clever and even brighter than the MINI’s (got one of those so can compare!)
Can you cut steel with them?