RE: McLaren Elva | First (brief, windy) ride

RE: McLaren Elva | First (brief, windy) ride

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s2000db

831 posts

101 months

Tuesday 19th November
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I’m not looking forward to the compensation claim, when someone gets a stone in their eye!

breadvan

1,480 posts

116 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Already spotted in the wild. biggrin


Chubbyross

316 posts

33 months

Tuesday 19th November
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If I wanted to go fast without a windscreen I’d buy a motorbike. I’m out.

Vee12V

850 posts

108 months

Tuesday 19th November
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For when you weren't allowed to buy the SP1/SP2.

rare6499

312 posts

87 months

Tuesday 19th November
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I don’t really get it.

the_hood

448 posts

142 months

Tuesday 19th November
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This came to mind.

WokkaWokka

457 posts

87 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Today a massive fk off stone hit my windscreen and made me duck as I was driving along at around 70mph on the motorway.

I imagine that’s what it might be like getting shot by a sniper.

I’d have probably lost half my face driving this as lovely as it looks.

Food for thought.

cookie1600

1,324 posts

109 months

Tuesday 19th November
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WokkaWokka said:
Today a massive fk off stone hit my windscreen and made me duck as I was driving along at around 70mph on the motorway.
Food for thought.
Not really. No harm will come to the owner as they sit in it in an air-conditioned garage, where most if not all will end up.

griffchris

150 posts

218 months

Tuesday 19th November
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This is crazy, what the hell are McLaren thinking???

Just this morning on my way to work, I passed 2 aeroscreened Caterhams lying in ditches beside the road, their drivers having been decapitated by a piece of gravel and a pregnant wasp. Carnage!

British Beef

1,246 posts

113 months

Tuesday 19th November
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WokkaWokka said:
Today a massive fk off stone hit my windscreen and made me duck as I was driving along at around 70mph on the motorway.

I imagine that’s what it might be like getting shot by a sniper.

I’d have probably lost half my face driving this as lovely as it looks.

Food for thought.
Exactly my thought, in my old Fisher Fury with aero screen, I quickly decided only a helmet would suffice as protection from many of the aerial grenades thrown up by traffic or nature.

Here lies the problem, you only want to drive a car like this when it is sunny and warm.
When it is sunny and warm (both days each year we get up in Scotland) the last thing you want to wear is a helmet for a quick blast on the roads.

Technically having no windscreen is great for performance as less drag, however Im sure this aero addendum will be no less efficient than a full windshield.

So I conclude this is a pointless engineering feat by the clever chaps at Mclaren.

M4SER

79 posts

74 months

Tuesday 19th November
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British Beef said:
Exactly my thought, in my old Fisher Fury with aero screen, I quickly decided only a helmet would suffice as protection from many of the aerial grenades thrown up by traffic or nature.

Here lies the problem, you only want to drive a car like this when it is sunny and warm.
When it is sunny and warm (both days each year we get up in Scotland) the last thing you want to wear is a helmet for a quick blast on the roads.

Technically having no windscreen is great for performance as less drag, however Im sure this aero addendum will be no less efficient than a full windshield.

So I conclude this is a pointless engineering feat by the clever chaps at Mclaren.
All so true. Cars without windscreens aren't cars in my view. Love the idea but it just doesn't work out on real roads. Maybe on track but then you'd most probably be wearing a helmet anyway.

I can remember at evo the KTM X-Bow coming in and me deciding to drive it home one night (50miles at the time). I ended up doing a U-turn after 10 miles or so, as I couldn't stand the buffeting any longer. My Lotus 340R was fab in comparison, thanks to it having a proper (heated) windscreen!

Max_Torque

14,376 posts

165 months

Tuesday 19th November
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So we replace the mass (and roll over protection....) of a full windcreen with the mass of a load of vents and electric motors to actuate those vents?

Wouldn't it be better just to have an actual windscreen that can motor down and hide itself at slow speed when showing off to mates outside the pub, but that you can thankfully then have wind back into place when you actually want to use the car?

it makes me wonder what other conventional and really useful parts of the car could be replaced in the name of "style and cool" by other, very complex but broadly completely unsuitable things?

Perhaps the Steering wheel could be replaced by one of these:




The exhaust system by this




The glovebox by this



can't remember

810 posts

76 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Just because you can doesn't mean you should. It would still look good with an old style racing screen like the DBR1 for instance.

Iamnotkloot

292 posts

95 months

Tuesday 19th November
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M4SER said:
British Beef said:
Exactly my thought, in my old Fisher Fury with aero screen, I quickly decided only a helmet would suffice as protection from many of the aerial grenades thrown up by traffic or nature.

Here lies the problem, you only want to drive a car like this when it is sunny and warm.
When it is sunny and warm (both days each year we get up in Scotland) the last thing you want to wear is a helmet for a quick blast on the roads.

Technically having no windscreen is great for performance as less drag, however Im sure this aero addendum will be no less efficient than a full windshield.

So I conclude this is a pointless engineering feat by the clever chaps at Mclaren.
All so true. Cars without windscreens aren't cars in my view. Love the idea but it just doesn't work out on real roads. Maybe on track but then you'd most probably be wearing a helmet anyway.

I can remember at evo the KTM X-Bow coming in and me deciding to drive it home one night (50miles at the time). I ended up doing a U-turn after 10 miles or so, as I couldn't stand the buffeting any longer. My Lotus 340R was fab in comparison, thanks to it having a proper (heated) windscreen!
I do hope this is the real Harry Metcalfe?

Anyway, I think it looks great.Whether it’s practical or not, I don’t care. After all, everyone loved the idea of a Renault Sport Spider without a windscreen.

Jellinek

229 posts

223 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Properly daft idea and ridiculous it has got this far. Clumsy, ugly and ineffective when anything of any weight (like a stone?!) gets thrown up.
Perhaps a clear protective screen behind the extended wake (or virtual frontal area increase) would be useful fix for this last (obvious) issue.
And I wouldn’t be surprised if the low pressure cabin area sucked in half the beasties passing down the sides. This is probably a result of losing all those motivated, professional engineers from the earlier thread!

Max_Torque

14,376 posts

165 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Iamnotkloot said:
I do hope this is the real Harry Metcalfe?
Check if his feet are wet and muddy, if they are, he's the real deal........... #farmerslife

Howard1650

94 posts

139 months

Tuesday 19th November
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McLaren what is the point of this car? Just to squeeze a few more million out of a bunch of wealthy gullible fools? It stinks of ‘ emperors new clothes ‘. I just don’t get it.

janesmith1950

4,175 posts

43 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Howard1650 said:
McLaren what is the point of this car? Just to squeeze a few more million out of a bunch of wealthy gullible fools? It stinks of ‘ emperors new clothes ‘. I just don’t get it.
Yes. On all counts.

D4rez

15 posts

4 months

Wednesday 20th November
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Again so much hate for what will I’m sure be a great car. Ferrari didn’t even bother with anything like this for the SP1/2 - no windscreen nothing - yet the launch comments for that had no bad bashing. I’m fine with pointing out the concern but I’m wondering what’s different?

chris116

771 posts

116 months

Wednesday 20th November
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Similar to the poster above, after having my windscreen clobbered by a stone recently no way I would drive anything on the road without one.