Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc? (Vol. 3)
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I have the luxury of inside knowledge of the automotive social media world, but there are two 7-figure subscriber car YouTubers that I know personally who have experienced these kind of things and neither of them made anything about it public at any point in time. They certainly did not use such titles and topics for social media gain.
While I can't speak at all for other areas and segments within YouTube or other social media platforms, I don't believe that any major car YouTubers have publicly experienced and discussed anything of the sort, so it would be better to not put everybody in the same generalised group.
While I can't speak at all for other areas and segments within YouTube or other social media platforms, I don't believe that any major car YouTubers have publicly experienced and discussed anything of the sort, so it would be better to not put everybody in the same generalised group.
Shmee said:
I have the luxury of inside knowledge of the automotive social media world, but there are two 7-figure subscriber car YouTubers that I know personally who have experienced these kind of things and neither of them made anything about it public at any point in time. They certainly did not use such titles and topics for social media gain.
While I can't speak at all for other areas and segments within YouTube or other social media platforms, I don't believe that any major car YouTubers have publicly experienced and discussed anything of the sort, so it would be better to not put everybody in the same generalised group.
Good on them for keeping it private, I admire that. I do agree with the second part of your comment - I was referring to Beefy's comment about 'mainstream society' who unfortunately probably tar everyone who makes Youtube videos with the same brush.While I can't speak at all for other areas and segments within YouTube or other social media platforms, I don't believe that any major car YouTubers have publicly experienced and discussed anything of the sort, so it would be better to not put everybody in the same generalised group.
North West Tom said:
Possible controversial opinion but I think in a way it's becoming too normalised to the point where we're desensitised by it - especially in the Youtube/entertainment world. Every Youtuber and their chihuahua has done a video titled 'my mental health' (all lower case as it fits the aesthetic) with a thumbnail of them looking deeply into camera with crocodile tears. Convincing their young naive viewers that they most likely have a mental disorder if they feel sad sometimes.
Hope this doesn't come across as insensitive, it's just frustrating as those clout-chasers really make it difficult for people with serious, genuine problems to be believed and helped. Not some influencer who diagnosed themselves with chronic anxiety because they get nervous before interviews.
I'll agree with that. People claim mental health issues far too freely and don't help with the publics perception of it being something many of us have no control over. I've went through some really stressful situations and been totally fine then in times of utter normality I've been near suicidal for what appears no reason. if anything I'm worse when there's no pressure or distractions.Hope this doesn't come across as insensitive, it's just frustrating as those clout-chasers really make it difficult for people with serious, genuine problems to be believed and helped. Not some influencer who diagnosed themselves with chronic anxiety because they get nervous before interviews.
People suffering from work related stress or suffering anxiety issues are still going through a mental health issue but it's completely different from clinical depression. You can't attribute all mental health issues to a stressful job, which I feel the earlier posters did.
_dobbo_ said:
egor110 said:
I think we do understand , it's just vlogging is not as important as other jobs .
Continuing to link stress, anxiety or depression to a person's job is categorically the wrong context to view this in.If somebody claimed they they had stress because they could no longer afford to buy the latest iphone would that be valid compared to someone who's stressed due to there business going under .
Like any job , if you can't handle the job your doing then you have the option of doing a different job .
Yes you might not get the same pay , you might no longer get access to new cars to review but if your stress free being a cleaner surely that's better than struggling along in your current stress inducing job ?
egor110 said:
would you always link stress to a job ?
No, absolutely not. egor110 said:
If somebody claimed they they had stress because they could no longer afford to buy the latest iphone would that be valid compared to someone who's stressed due to there business going under .
"Validity" for stress confuses objectivity and subjectivity. This is in my opinion a mistake when considering a person and whether they have any "reason" to be stressed.egor110 said:
Like any job , if you can't handle the job your doing then you have the option of doing a different job .
This is simplistic in the extremeegor110 said:
Yes you might not get the same pay , you might no longer get access to new cars to review but if your stress free being a cleaner surely that's better than struggling along in your current stress inducing job ?
What if the cleaner is stressed? Or the puppy groomer? Or the flower arranger? My point was and is, for a huge number of people who suffer stress and anxiety there is no magical fix of changing jobs. Because the job is the wrong context to view this in.I have my own fairly small YouTube channel. I do not wish for it to be my lifestyle.
I really create videos as I fix, repair or do something on the car, or even track days. Which is exactly why the majority of videos I watch on YouTube are project cars, rebuilds, restorations etc, though massively beyond my own budget.
My aim is more to help someone, or illustrate something as opposed to provide direct entertainment.
It's very interesting to see how the channel grows, how interest, comments and sharing grows. I can see how it can become addictive chasing more subscribers or more views. Either way its a great medium and I certainly spend far too much time on it as a viewer, never mind producing content!
I really create videos as I fix, repair or do something on the car, or even track days. Which is exactly why the majority of videos I watch on YouTube are project cars, rebuilds, restorations etc, though massively beyond my own budget.
My aim is more to help someone, or illustrate something as opposed to provide direct entertainment.
It's very interesting to see how the channel grows, how interest, comments and sharing grows. I can see how it can become addictive chasing more subscribers or more views. Either way its a great medium and I certainly spend far too much time on it as a viewer, never mind producing content!
So, I take a different approach to many YouTubers - smaller ones in particular. I always wanted to turn this into a career and like to think I was sensible about the demands that would place on me.
As mentioned before, working in film previously helped - allowing me to cope with stress and long days, but also simple stuff - like learning how to edit properly. Most small YouTubers I know have no formal edit training and dont appreciate how much time it would save just learning the basics like editing with the keyboard.
I also shoot content ahead of time - often a month or two into the future, giving me the ability to mask up when video shoots get cancelled, or my own availability prevents me from filming. Because as Tim said, stopping the flow of regular content is very damaging for a channel. This year I have been putting out three videos a week and I've seen real tangible growth because of it.
As mentioned before, working in film previously helped - allowing me to cope with stress and long days, but also simple stuff - like learning how to edit properly. Most small YouTubers I know have no formal edit training and dont appreciate how much time it would save just learning the basics like editing with the keyboard.
I also shoot content ahead of time - often a month or two into the future, giving me the ability to mask up when video shoots get cancelled, or my own availability prevents me from filming. Because as Tim said, stopping the flow of regular content is very damaging for a channel. This year I have been putting out three videos a week and I've seen real tangible growth because of it.
jayemm89 said:
So, I take a different approach to many YouTubers - smaller ones in particular. I always wanted to turn this into a career and like to think I was sensible about the demands that would place on me.
As mentioned before, working in film previously helped - allowing me to cope with stress and long days, but also simple stuff - like learning how to edit properly. Most small YouTubers I know have no formal edit training and dont appreciate how much time it would save just learning the basics like editing with the keyboard.
I also shoot content ahead of time - often a month or two into the future, giving me the ability to mask up when video shoots get cancelled, or my own availability prevents me from filming. Because as Tim said, stopping the flow of regular content is very damaging for a channel. This year I have been putting out three videos a week and I've seen real tangible growth because of it.
I'm not sure I totally agree a constant flow of videos is the only way to do it. As mentioned before, working in film previously helped - allowing me to cope with stress and long days, but also simple stuff - like learning how to edit properly. Most small YouTubers I know have no formal edit training and dont appreciate how much time it would save just learning the basics like editing with the keyboard.
I also shoot content ahead of time - often a month or two into the future, giving me the ability to mask up when video shoots get cancelled, or my own availability prevents me from filming. Because as Tim said, stopping the flow of regular content is very damaging for a channel. This year I have been putting out three videos a week and I've seen real tangible growth because of it.
People like Chrisfix does very well uploading sporadically, and even on my own channel I've been out performing people like Seen Through Glass, TGE, and SoL in terms of views and new subs the past few months, and I've only uploaded a 4 videos in three months.
For sure it's not the only way, and it wouldn't make sense for a lot of other channels. In my case, it was a natural thing - I started out making one video a week, maybe two, because that was the amount of content I could realistically make with the resources that I have. I've gotten very lucky with the opportunities that have come my way, and this is my way of balancing content output, and me time.
Amusingly, this week I'm trying to take some time off from driving, and play some video games. So what have I bought for myself? Forza Horizon 4...
Amusingly, this week I'm trying to take some time off from driving, and play some video games. So what have I bought for myself? Forza Horizon 4...
jon- said:
I'm not sure I totally agree a constant flow of videos is the only way to do it.
People like Chrisfix does very well uploading sporadically, and even on my own channel I've been out performing people like Seen Through Glass, TGE, and SoL in terms of views and new subs the past few months, and I've only uploaded a 4 videos in three months.
Surely this is due to time of year for you, I imagine a lot of people want to know what winter/all season tyres to buy this time of year... Peaks and troughs and all that...People like Chrisfix does very well uploading sporadically, and even on my own channel I've been out performing people like Seen Through Glass, TGE, and SoL in terms of views and new subs the past few months, and I've only uploaded a 4 videos in three months.
Seen Through Glass has just posted a video of them all out in their Ferrari's and asks SOL how he ended up with a ferrari which he explains it's just a partnership between him and Eurospares.
Also, i noticed they are in the Cotswolds and an obvious place to stop would be Caffeine and Machine, but they stopped for food elsewhere and it got me thinking, other than JWW doing a video on the place when it was first opening about a year ago or whatever it was, have any other YT's gone there and filmed? If not, do you think they have been told that no filming is allowed to try and stop the wrong type of crown showing up?
Also, i noticed they are in the Cotswolds and an obvious place to stop would be Caffeine and Machine, but they stopped for food elsewhere and it got me thinking, other than JWW doing a video on the place when it was first opening about a year ago or whatever it was, have any other YT's gone there and filmed? If not, do you think they have been told that no filming is allowed to try and stop the wrong type of crown showing up?
95JO said:
jon- said:
I'm not sure I totally agree a constant flow of videos is the only way to do it.
People like Chrisfix does very well uploading sporadically, and even on my own channel I've been out performing people like Seen Through Glass, TGE, and SoL in terms of views and new subs the past few months, and I've only uploaded a 4 videos in three months.
Surely this is due to time of year for you, I imagine a lot of people want to know what winter/all season tyres to buy this time of year... Peaks and troughs and all that...People like Chrisfix does very well uploading sporadically, and even on my own channel I've been out performing people like Seen Through Glass, TGE, and SoL in terms of views and new subs the past few months, and I've only uploaded a 4 videos in three months.
https://www.youtube.com/user/PaintballOO7/videos
4 videos in 3 months!
egor110 said:
I think we do understand , it's just vlogging is not as important as other jobs .
Worthiness seems to be a big deal to you when evaluating the importance of a job.Of course, you’ll always win that point because being a paramedic will always be more worthy than being an accountant. It’s a given the world accepts that, but the point here is that being a youtuber is no different to being self employed in any other industry. You work have to work hard to be successful and that undoubtedly brings stress as there’s no salary at the end of the month unless you’ve made it.
alistair1234 said:
Also, i noticed they are in the Cotswolds and an obvious place to stop would be Caffeine and Machine, but they stopped for food elsewhere and it got me thinking, other than JWW doing a video on the place when it was first opening about a year ago or whatever it was, have any other YT's gone there and filmed? If not, do you think they have been told that no filming is allowed to try and stop the wrong type of crown showing up?
Not at all, they're very open to all kinds of media. I filmed there last year with an Abarth 124 Spider.Probably just as simple as Sam, James, Paul and Seb just went in a different direction to C&M.
New game. Who can last the longest watching a new 'Car Girl' episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS4R3uRGTs4
I lasted 1min 4 secs (ahem) - had to give up when she delivers the line "now, the size and dimensions of this car are... amazing"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS4R3uRGTs4
I lasted 1min 4 secs (ahem) - had to give up when she delivers the line "now, the size and dimensions of this car are... amazing"
Gavin_Essex said:
New game. Who can last the longest watching a new 'Car Girl' episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS4R3uRGTs4
I lasted 1min 4 secs (ahem) - had to give up when she delivers the line "now, the size and dimensions of this car are... amazing"
1m 5s just to out-do you Gavinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS4R3uRGTs4
I lasted 1min 4 secs (ahem) - had to give up when she delivers the line "now, the size and dimensions of this car are... amazing"
Gavin_Essex said:
New game. Who can last the longest watching a new 'Car Girl' episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS4R3uRGTs4
I lasted 1min 4 secs (ahem) - had to give up when she delivers the line "now, the size and dimensions of this car are... amazing"
She''ll go viral across sub-continental Asia and Africa, and the comments will be full of thirsty "In-Cels" wanting "bob an vagene". Views and subs will rocket, ad money will roll in, job jobbed.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS4R3uRGTs4
I lasted 1min 4 secs (ahem) - had to give up when she delivers the line "now, the size and dimensions of this car are... amazing"
Worked for Supercar Blondie didn't it? The content and delivery is secondary when there's a pair of tight jeans or a short skirt to lure in the views and revenue..
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