Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc? (Vol. 3)

Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc? (Vol. 3)

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jon-

16,509 posts

216 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Shmee said:
Music on YouTube is a horrible, horrible topic.

I've had periods in the past where I used songs that were fully licensed and legal and then 3, 4 or 5 years down the line I get copyright strikes on them. Unfortunately this keeps happening now and every time it's a few hours going backwards and forwards to fight the claim and try to produce something from a website that probably no longer exists.

As a result, I will never use music in videos again.
Out of interest, do you trust epidemic sound?

The more I use it, the more I find they have some fairly decent artists who have a good spotify presence etc allowing use of their music on the platform. The service seems too good to be true for £10/month (Though I expect you are bigger than that category)

Algarve

2,102 posts

81 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Its £40 a month for commercial use.

jon-

16,509 posts

216 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Algarve said:
Its £40 a month for commercial use.
Their wording is a bit ambiguous, but it seems most youtubers would fall under the personal plan - https://www.epidemicsound.com/personal-subscriptio...

g3org3y

20,627 posts

191 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Thanks for the replies, really interesting. Sounds like a potential minefield.

Shmee

7,565 posts

213 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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I would avoid it purely because if somebody else purchases the song, or samples it into a commercial release down the line, your video will instantly be matched by the YouTube computers and commence a stressful and time consuming fight to get the rights (and income) back in your favour.

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

230 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Well, first new video in two months is up tonight. This one has made me really nervous, given how brutal the Youtube algorithm has been in the past I have a fear that it just won’t get pushed at all and will flop. Which is a real shame as honestly I think it’s one of my best videos.

Looking at the first couple of hours views, seems my fears were well founded! <facepalm>

Luke.

10,991 posts

250 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Beefmeister said:
Well, first new video in two months is up tonight. This one has made me really nervous, given how brutal the Youtube algorithm has been in the past I have a fear that it just won’t get pushed at all and will flop. Which is a real shame as honestly I think it’s one of my best videos.

Looking at the first couple of hours views, seems my fears were well founded! <facepalm>
Well, I enjoyed it. FWITW. Roll on your next one and my 300 Trophy in a couple of weeks time.

614-HSO

1,317 posts

48 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Do you want to see a Senna driven flat out at the Nordschleife, you do don't you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP3c6_0B7ME

That is insane bounce apparently the driver isn't that experienced at the Nordschleife! I cannot wait for the video when he is experienced.

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

230 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Luke. said:
Well, I enjoyed it. FWITW. Roll on your next one and my 300 Trophy in a couple of weeks time.
Thanks thumbup

ghost83

5,477 posts

190 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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614-HSO said:
Do you want to see a Senna driven flat out at the Nordschleife, you do don't you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP3c6_0B7ME

That is insane bounce apparently the driver isn't that experienced at the Nordschleife! I cannot wait for the video when he is experienced.
Looks planted

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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LLF has Arthur's new car, he is a top bloke, TTRS this time.

WarrenB

2,404 posts

118 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Another frustratingly barely watchable video from SOL.

Living with a motorbike for a week. Goes for some petrol. Goes to Cambridge, GoPro stops recording. Goes to 'the countries biggest Sainsburys', demonstrates how to ride into a parking space (apparently you may not understand this if you don't have a bike license) and then ends the week in the BMW.


Glenn63

2,757 posts

84 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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The Spruce Goose said:
LLF has Arthur's new car, he is a top bloke, TTRS this time.
As much hate as LLF’s channel gets on here, I hope I’m the same as Arthur at that age what a guy!

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Glenn63 said:
As much hate as LLF’s channel gets on here, I hope I’m the same as Arthur at that age what a guy!
I don't like all LLF videos, most youtubers i watch, it is the same dip in and out, but the cars and people he has on are pretty unique.

TheJimi

24,983 posts

243 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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While I'm not a huge fan of LLF, something I do like about him is that he makes the videos about the cars and their owners, rather than himself - per the likes of TGE etc, where a big part of the goal just seems to be feeding the ego.

g3org3y

20,627 posts

191 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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A very positive review of the Maserati Ghibli

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn0fq_Wkycs

Worth a watch if you fancy a laugh on a Monday morning. The chap loves it! biggrin

1602Mark

16,205 posts

173 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Surprised at the efforts Samcrac is going to to revive an old Range Rover.

Still enjoying Sarah’n’Tuned. Attention to detail is about as good as it gets and no stroking of her own ego.

Budget Builds $1000 911 is coming along nicely. (Or was it $500?) but hope they don’t fit that awful rear wing.

PeterGadsby

1,307 posts

163 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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g3org3y said:
A very positive review of the Maserati Ghibli

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn0fq_Wkycs

Worth a watch if you fancy a laugh on a Monday morning. The chap loves it! biggrin
He's great, thanks for posting

Stussy

1,834 posts

64 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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vodkamartini1 said:
Could you put a few tunes together yourself? Bit of guitar or piano? How’s your singing voice?!
Even this can be a total nightmare!
Years ago I used to run a very big channel which was all old rave tunes.
There were no copyright issues back then, and lots of artists supported it.
There was a huge community that was very successful all round.
The artists found people still loved their work which they thought had been long forgotten about, big names in the scene started producing music again and everyone was happy.
Then the copyright hammer started to fall.
Artists received copyright claims for their own work!
There are channels/companies and labels putting in claims for music that was never theirs, and YouTube is taking their word for it.
The whole copyright mechanism on there is massively flawed and an utter nightmare.
In the end I just closed my channel, which lost literally thousands of long lost tunes from a small U.K. scene, a lot of which have no other referencing online.
As others said, putting music in videos is a huge headache and hardly worth bothering with, especially as 3 strikes and your channel is instantly removed. Years of work gone in seconds

idealstandard

644 posts

55 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Shmee said:
I would avoid it purely because if somebody else purchases the song, or samples it into a commercial release down the line, your video will instantly be matched by the YouTube computers and commence a stressful and time consuming fight to get the rights (and income) back in your favour.
That and the fact that the type of music JWW and that nutter Morethancars use is total and utter garbage and enough to turn off the video regardless of content!
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