RE: Tesla wants us all to talk about the Cybertruck

RE: Tesla wants us all to talk about the Cybertruck

Friday 22nd November 2019

Tesla wants us all to talk about the Cybertruck

Prophetic vision of a new world? Hilarious styling misstep? Meta joke on the folly of industrial design?



So where do we start? With Tesla's chutzpah? Or with the facts? Let's go with the latter because it's quicker. Yes, Tesla has made (or intends to make, at least) a pick-up truck. It is doing this for obvious reasons - the truck market in America is colossal, and curiously well protected from competition. And yes, it is called Cybertruck.

There will be three variants. The first will feature a single electric motor, meaning it's rear-driven and the cheapest to buy (at $39,900 or around £31k). For that you get around 250 miles of estimated range, a 7,500-pound towing capacity and a 0-60mph time of 6.5 seconds. At the mid-range ($49,900 or around £39k) you get dual motors, meaning all-wheel drive and a 4.5-second sprint, around 300 miles of range and towing capacity goes up to 10,000-pounds - which is essentially 4.5 tonnes.

Finally, and silliest, is the top-spec 'Tri' motor version, which will apparently deliver more than 500 miles of driving about, along with sufficient performance to crack 60mph in 2.9 seconds and haul 14,000-pounds (nearly 6.5 tonnes). This is the 'Plaid' level powertrain and it's not currently known how the configuration works. Somewhat inevitably, while it has a $69,900 asking price (almost £55k), it isn't projected to start production until late in 2022.


In fact, none of the Cybertrucks are due to start production just yet, with the rear-drive model pencilled in for late 2021. Nevertheless, that doesn't make what you're looking at a flight of fancy; not according to Musk, anyway, who insists that the pick-up is near production status as it appears. Which is remarkable, because you don't need us to tell you that the Cybertruck appears better prepared for a Bond villain's Moon base than it does the building sites of America.

There's even more to it than meets the eye, too. The body is apparently made of ultra-hard 30x cold-rolled stainless steel, which is said to make it bulletproof up to a 9mm round. The Cybertruck's resilience was tested on stage with a sledgehammer, and despite having its windows smashed - by a metal ball wielding designer, of all people - it is clearly built with a brutal working life in mind.

To that end, you get a 6.5ft load bay with a raisable cover, and over 2,800 litres of lockable storage space when all the nooks and crannies are taken into account. The Cybertruck will seat up to six occupants (yes, it's huge) and they will be treated to a 17-inch touchscreen in an otherwise fairly spartan interior. Underneath there will be adjustable air suspension, capable of going four inches in either direction (with 16 inches said to be the maximum height).


It all sounds very let's-get-the-job-done, which is admirable. But has Tesla gotten the job done? Yes, the truck market in America is vast; Ford sells nearly one million F-150s there every year. But therein lies the rub: it's a remarkably conservative market, one built on heritage, customer faith, reputation and the revered image of the American working man. Tesla is remarkably astute at worming its way into the affections of its domestic fanbase - but it's asking a lot of Average Joe to parade about the place like an extra from Judge Dredd.

Or perhaps we're wrong. If anyone can drop a wedge-shaped truck on North America, and get it to work, it's Tesla. But it will have lots of competition in the electric truck market in a couple of years, most notably from the giant carmakers which already dominate it. Even from afar, then, it looks like the future of the humble pick-up will be one of the most interesting automotive stores of the next decade. Who'd have thunk it?


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TdM-GTV

Original Poster:

290 posts

216 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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It's definitely different. Not sure I could bring myself to be seen near it, but it's different.

Niffty951

2,333 posts

227 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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The (0) comments as I write this message just about sums it up. If I read the article without the pictures I'd have been very impressed.

With the images. No words come to mind. I like sci-fi but Blade runner was designed to be dystopian not utopian! Let's not make it a target.

Edited by Niffty951 on Friday 22 November 13:27

tigamilla

507 posts

79 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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Surely that will get toned down once they start doing pedestrian safety regs etc?

Lt. Coulomb

202 posts

53 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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It’s Geoff’s son!


bodhi

10,334 posts

228 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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Looks like a vision of the future from a 1990's PlayStation 1 game.

TheAngryDog

12,394 posts

208 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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Was the designer only allowed a ruler and a pencil to draw this masterpiece?

mike425

30 posts

59 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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I literally thought this was a joke, and I am still not sure.

mac96

3,716 posts

142 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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It's interesting but I thought stainless steel was rather expensive to repair? And that front- a steel box- surely won't meet pedestrian safety regulations. Or provide crumple zones for occupant safety.

I know as a commercial vehicle the regs may be different, which seems in itself to be an odd anomaly for high performance pretend commercial vehicles, but it still looks like an odd idea for a brand new design.

That said- I quite like it, and it's going to be a lot safer than plenty of vehicles I have owned!


TdM-GTV

Original Poster:

290 posts

216 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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Good news on the safety front... As long as nobody mentions it too loudly, Musk doesn't really mind.

For example see autopilot lack of driver monitoring aside from 'do you have your orange tied to the wheel' so he'll probably squeak it through regs somehow and claim it as the safest car ever because you can shoot it

TheOrangePeril

778 posts

179 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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Looks brill. Bravo for having the bottle to go for it, definitely a publicity win.

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

134 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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This will be the only car you can make a model of with a Rubik’s snake.
Call me old fashioned but shouldn’t a pickup have an open rear deck?
What they appear to be showing us is in fact.....
A car.


Dave Hedgehog

14,541 posts

203 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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the avg 6 yo with a box of crayons could come up with a better design than that ...


Lt. Coulomb

202 posts

53 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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mac96 said:
It's interesting but I thought stainless steel was rather expensive to repair? And that front- a steel box- surely won't meet pedestrian safety regulations.
In ’Murica there are no pedestrians!

Jon_S_Rally

3,385 posts

87 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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Laughable. Purely from a styling perspective. Can you imagine F-150 and Ram driving hicks from the south buying that? I certainly can't. This sums up everything that is wrong with EVs. I don't want a spaceship, or a film-set reject, I just want what I have now, but electric.

As for the windows breaking on stage, one of the most hilarious videos I've seen for a long time, just brilliant. That being said, being able to withstand a 9mm round seems quite appropriate for the US market.

Steamer

13,846 posts

212 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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I think 'Daddies hat has fallen off'... he's totally lost the plot now.

Watching the live stage reveal earlier - why does a truck need bullet proof windows (in 90% of the world anyway).

Standing on stage for the rest of the event in front of your new vehicle when someone just smashed the windows?!.. I've seen some bad live events - but this is up there with the best.

mac96

3,716 posts

142 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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Lt. Coulomb said:
mac96 said:
It's interesting but I thought stainless steel was rather expensive to repair? And that front- a steel box- surely won't meet pedestrian safety regulations.
In ’Murica there are no pedestrians!
Good point. All lost to natural selection by 1960.

therendle

5 posts

92 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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I like it. I want one. The £55k one. I don't even need a truck.

Jon_S_Rally

3,385 posts

87 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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TheOrangePeril said:
Looks brill. Bravo for having the bottle to go for it, definitely a publicity win.
The problem with the Musk empire often seems to be that he spends a bit too much time on the publicity and not enough time turning it into profit-making vehicles.

Piha

7,150 posts

91 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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OK, so it might not be completely viable when it comes to pedestrian safety etc. but I love it.

I have been waiting for electric car designers/companies to start making products with flair and imagination, cars that look different from the normal dull looking wheeled boxes that dominate our roads today. So let's hope Elon gets this to market in the next couple of years and I for one, look forward to more adventurously designed vehicles in the near future.

AmosMoses

4,039 posts

164 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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For ram raiding your local cash and carry it looks perfectly suited, but for everything else i'm not so sure. Where are the wipers? No info about the trailer hitch (pretty key for a truck). The quoted range I presume is unladen with no trailer? Dimensions not mentioned? It looks fking enormous.

I'm a fan of Tesla cars but this just seems to be the typical Musk marketing, a few crazy claims and no detail on the practicalities.