Best Hot Hatch of the 21st Century – nominations

Best Hot Hatch of the 21st Century – nominations

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s m

23,164 posts

202 months

Wednesday 27th November 2019
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325ti/130i

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

162 months

Wednesday 27th November 2019
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I've thought of something left field to propose.

Ford Racing Puma.

Coupe hatch ,sort of production car cum homologation special ,hand built by Tickford ,500 made.

Tickle

4,882 posts

203 months

Wednesday 27th November 2019
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Pericoloso said:
I've thought of something left field to propose.

Ford Racing Puma.

Coupe hatch ,sort of production car cum homologation special ,hand built by Tickford ,500 made.
...Also launched in 99, not post 2000

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

162 months

Wednesday 27th November 2019
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Oops ,didn't know it slipped in before the millennium.

Yacht Broker

3,158 posts

266 months

Wednesday 27th November 2019
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Porsche Panamera Turbo S 5-door hatch

Go large or go home

;-)

Tickle

4,882 posts

203 months

Wednesday 27th November 2019
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Pericoloso said:
Oops ,didn't know it slipped in before the millennium.
I was going to say EK9, but it was launched pre-2000 too.

Crafty_

13,248 posts

199 months

Wednesday 27th November 2019
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zedx19 said:
I'm not a driving god and just because a reviewer says they loved it, doesn't mean everyone will love it. I drove a manual, the sales rep was keen on me fully utilising it, so I did but just found it dull, devoid of any character. At one point I pulled into a layby, asked if it was in Race mode, the sales rep checked and it was. I launched it out the layby and it just went down the road with no bother, no squirming, no drama, no noise and no sense that I was needed in the driving process. I wanted to love it, everyone harps on about how amazing they are, I found it boring, other people seemingly love them, everyones entitled to their views.
I'm with you on this, found exactly the same the the golf.
I also wasn't overly impressed with the interior - felt ilke I was perched on a seat in the golf, rather than sat in it. The touchscreen is a daft idea and made worse by the fact its out of the driver's view. Driving a performance car should be an event and the golf isn't IMHO. Its a hot hatch for people who like to wear beige cardigans.

Anyway..

M135/140 ? hmm definately unique but is it really a hot hatch ? not sure its light or nimble enough ? Its a car that you could cover large distances at a decent rate and feel very comfortable doing so, but thats not really a trait of a hot hatch ?

I think it has to be the clio or megane. Light, good handling wise, a bit compromised but ultimately something you'd want to drive hard because its fun ? I think they fit the original 80s hatch ethos best.

LordHaveMurci

12,034 posts

168 months

Wednesday 27th November 2019
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Nice to see the Clio 172 Cup named more often than the 182 Trophy.

Had mine nearly 11yrs, must be the last hot hatch without ABS & traction control etc surely?

Much harsher than the Mk5 GTi but I sold mine after 9mths, it bored me to tears.

and31

2,996 posts

126 months

Wednesday 27th November 2019
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Mini GP1
Love a supercharger.....

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 27th November 2019
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Agree with many suggestions which have already been mentioned.

These are not what I would call the best hot hatches but they are worth a mention.







Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 27th November 20:30

DoubleD

22,154 posts

107 months

Wednesday 27th November 2019
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
Agree with many suggestions which have already been mentioned.

These are not what I would call the best hot hatches but they are worth a mention.





A Z3 isnt what I would call a hot hatch!

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

162 months

Wednesday 27th November 2019
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The T plate on the Breadvan counts that out as pre 2000.

Nominating the 100HP twice is cheating....tongue outbiggrin

Edited whilst I typed.

David87

6,648 posts

211 months

Wednesday 27th November 2019
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I’ve had quite a few, and for me, the Clio 182 Trophy is the answer. Just fantastic.

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 27th November 2019
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Pericoloso said:
The T plate on the Breadvan counts that out as pre 2000.

Nominating the 100HP twice is cheating....tongue outbiggrin

Edited whilst I typed.
Breadvan was 1996 to 2002 if that sneaks in biggrin

PHuzzy

2,747 posts

171 months

Wednesday 27th November 2019
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If a Z3M and Panamera are being suggested then the Ferrari FF I mentioned earlier (jokingly) is definitely winning this.

Bradgate

2,819 posts

146 months

Wednesday 27th November 2019
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BMW F20 M140i. One of the truly great engines in a compact, practical, useable, (relatively) affordable package. As quick as you could ever use on the public roads and super smooth. Manual or auto? Entirely down to personal preference, but I prefer the auto.

Its Just Adz

13,949 posts

208 months

Wednesday 27th November 2019
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I have to go Focus RS mk2, absolutely nuts car, a hooligan like all fun cars should be.

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 27th November 2019
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I've owned a few hot hatches including:

Saxo Vts
Clio 182 Cup
306 Gti 6
Civic Type R ep3
Civic Type R fn2
Clio 200 Cup

Best engine/gearbox combo has to go to the hondas. Unfortunately the steering in the ep3 completely ruined the car for me, I sold it for this reason.

I have only just bought the fn2, enjoying it so far, it makes a great everyday car if you can ignore the slightly harsh ride. But it's not as exciting as the french cars.

I much preferred the Saxo to the 306, the 306 was slightly leggy and had probably lost it's mojo slightly, I'd love to try a good one. The Saxo was great fun, it was small, quick enough, cheap as chips to run and great handling. A car that really was more than the sum of it's parts.

I also had an alien green clio 200 cup and a racing blue 182 cup. I found the 200 was just a bit harsh for daily use, which sort of misses the point of a hot hatch, it was great when in the mood though. It was just so neutral, no understeer, no oversteer, I could really take liberties with it.

My favourite is the 182 cup. It basically had all the good bits about the saxo, but it was quicker in a straight line and had pedals that my feet could actually fit on.




JJ55

649 posts

114 months

Wednesday 27th November 2019
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Clio 182 trophy

Turbojuice

598 posts

88 months

Wednesday 27th November 2019
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that_classic_mini_guy said:
abarth 595 Turismo (little more relaxed than the next choice)

abarth 595 competizione

fiat bravo 150t
Sorry but this must be a troll. Fiat bravo laugh
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