A sportscar shouldn’t have...

A sportscar shouldn’t have...

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Dave Hedgehog

14,550 posts

204 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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an auto box, esp, fake sound through the speakers

Pica-Pica

13,783 posts

84 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
Cotty said:
Autonomy said:
An engine at the back. Or front.
It would be a bit slow if it did not have an engine.
I think he's implying it should be mid-engined.
Indeed, put it down to inexperience.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

261 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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As many seats as cylinders.

grumpy52

5,579 posts

166 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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Surely most modern sports cars are more like Grand Tourers of old than sports cars .

CrossMember

2,988 posts

139 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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...a strict definition. smile

Tickle

4,917 posts

204 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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Fixed hardtop;
More than 2 seats;
A diesel engine;
A kerb weight over 1200kg, ideally sub-1000kg;
Non-mechanical interface from driver to gears.


nickfrog

21,140 posts

217 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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I associate sport with track use so providing it is reasonably adept at track work without cooking its tyres and brakes after 2 hot laps and is set up to cope then it's a sports car. Which eliminates loads of sporty road cars.

If we eliminate power steering and turbo than that means that a Formula 1 doesn't qualify.

raceboy

13,097 posts

280 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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deeen said:
Automatic gearbox.
Dave Hedgehog said:
an auto box
Don't think you can buy a current Ferrari or Lamborghini with a manual box. scratchchin

stuartmmcfc

8,662 posts

192 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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More than two doors

Tickle

4,917 posts

204 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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raceboy said:
Don't think you can buy a current Ferrari or Lamborghini with a manual box. scratchchin
Are they sports cars though scratchchin supercars, SUV's or GT's maybe in the Lambo and Ferrari lineup.

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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nickfrog said:
IIf we eliminate power steering and turbo than that means that a Formula 1 doesn't qualify.
I don't think many people would class an F1 car as a "sport car".

Racing cars and sports cars have fundamentally different remits - for me at least, a sports car's primary purpose is to be fun whereas a racing cars primary purpose is to be fast (within whatever rules it competes under).

MKnight702

3,109 posts

214 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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Anything that didn't get fitted to a proper Lotus Elan.

I will allow for modern replacements for things like EFI over carbs, and modern ICE over a FM stereo, but drivers "aids" - out, automatic or flappy paddles - out, electric windows - out. Anything else that removes driver input or adds weight - out.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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Cotty said:
Autonomy said:
An engine at the back. Or front.
It would be a bit slow if it did not have an engine.
Really? Tell that to Tesla...

You knew what I meant. Mid-engined.

Hol

8,409 posts

200 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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raceboy said:
deeen said:
Automatic gearbox.
Dave Hedgehog said:
an auto box
Don't think you can buy a current Ferrari or Lamborghini with a manual box. scratchchin
to be fair to the OP, the answer to this is in the question:

A sportscar shouldn’t have...



Hol

8,409 posts

200 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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Electrically adjustable seats, or sat nav.

Edited by Hol on Thursday 28th November 16:34

2Btoo

3,424 posts

203 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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CrossMember said:
...a strict definition. smile
Controversial.

LJKS maintained that a 'Sports Car' is one that you could buy and use competitively in a racing series straight from the showroom; the only modifications being those for safety as necessitated by the series scrutes.

Does that qualify as a strict definition? smile

RDMcG

19,142 posts

207 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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It would appear that the only possible sport car is a Caterham then.

ericmcn

1,999 posts

97 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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A clattery diesel engine....

Monkeylegend

26,385 posts

231 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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A PH know-it-all driving god in the drivers seat.

nickfrog

21,140 posts

217 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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kambites said:
nickfrog said:
IIf we eliminate power steering and turbo than that means that a Formula 1 doesn't qualify.
I don't think many people would class an F1 car as a "sport car".

Racing cars and sports cars have fundamentally different remits - for me at least, a sports car's primary purpose is to be fun whereas a racing cars primary purpose is to be fast (within whatever rules it competes under).
I reckon motorsport is a form of sport. I don't think many people can argue with that.

I have no idea how one can have fun on the road, particularly in SE England where it is s basically pot holes, traffic congestion and speed traps. Or at least compared to how much fun can be had on track. We are blessed with a plethora of amazing tracks, no idea why you wouldn't want to use them as a keen driver.

A fast car can be fun too, the two are not mutually exclusive.


Edited by nickfrog on Thursday 28th November 16:47