RE: 2020 Jaguar F-Type revealed!

RE: 2020 Jaguar F-Type revealed!

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cerb4.5lee

30,529 posts

180 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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Fittster said:
How much is a fairly basic 911 going to set someone back today?
I think that they are around the £90k mark.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,068 posts

212 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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cerb4.5lee said:
Fittster said:
How much is a fairly basic 911 going to set someone back today?
I think that they are around the £90k mark.
I think this really sits between the 911 and Cayman/Boxster. It it cheaper than a 911 and doesn't have back seats, it also can be had with a 4 cylinder engine - like the Cayman/Boxster....but it can also be specced much higher with a big, powerful engine, like a 911. So I think strictly comparing to a 911 isn't necessarily accurate....maybe.

My old man has an F Type R. The engine is mega (if a bit OTT for noise for early morning starts!) but some of the interior is really low rent IMO.

R400TVR

543 posts

162 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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I've never been a fan of these, and think that JLR would have been better placed releasing a lower priced car to compete in the Z4 area. But this upgrade looks good. I still find it a shame that a motoring page rates an infotainment upgrade as important in a sports car.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,068 posts

212 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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R400TVR said:
I still find it a shame that a motoring page rates an infotainment upgrade as important in a sports car.
For a car costing as much as it does, and for a car that will almost certainly be someone's daily driver, it is important. The system in the original was poor, and even the updated one isn't great. Compared to the. BMW M6 idrive (the car we had in the family before the F Type R) the infotainment system is pretty crap and frustrating, it shouldn't be like that in a car that cost around £100k.

MellowshipSlinky

14,695 posts

189 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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bluemason

1,070 posts

123 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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MellowshipSlinky said:
Best looking f type imo.

superlightr

12,856 posts

263 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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MellowshipSlinky said:
does look good - is that the new front or old front?

MellowshipSlinky

14,695 posts

189 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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superlightr said:
MellowshipSlinky said:
does look good - is that the new front or old front?
New

cerb4.5lee

30,529 posts

180 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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MellowshipSlinky said:
superlightr said:
MellowshipSlinky said:
does look good - is that the new front or old front?
New
I thought it was the new XE Convertible! biggrin

ZX10R NIN

27,592 posts

125 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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MellowshipSlinky said:
I have to say that it definitely looks better than the original imo.

MellowshipSlinky

14,695 posts

189 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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Whilst I quite like it, I think it’s a lazy design where the bonnet line meets the headlights.




ultrastapler

197 posts

155 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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Wow, side by side it really looks Gash compared to the original

cerb4.5lee

30,529 posts

180 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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ultrastapler said:
Wow, side by side it really looks Gash compared to the original
My thoughts too and I much prefer the original.

A1VDY

3,575 posts

127 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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Angry depressing look to it..

Jimny33

55 posts

97 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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Love it. If only I didn’t have a 5 month old!

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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cerb4.5lee said:
ultrastapler said:
Wow, side by side it really looks Gash compared to the original
My thoughts too and I much prefer the original.
Ditto. The new nose just looks more like the rest of the saloon range.

R400TVR

543 posts

162 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Thenedski said:
Nice enough update. But come on. This car is already 7 years old and wasn't brilliant at launch. Far too heavy for a supposedly 2 seater sportscar and now they've ditched the 375bhp 6 pot engine in favour of a 300bhp 4 pot engine. The sooner they replace this model with an electric version with over 500 hp the better..
Please hand your ph credentials in at the for on your way out.
It's a sad day when any sports car is reduced to an automatic gearbox.

R400TVR

543 posts

162 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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RacerMike said:
23 years since the original XK, but the F Type was an evolution of the X150 XK which launched 12 years ago. The chassis in the original 96-06 XK was basically an updated XJS chassis with carry over suspension. The X150 was the then new aluminium monocoque which eventually went on to become the X351 XJ after being fairly substantially modified.

Whilst I agree that the F Type is a bit old school now, it’s a little unfair to try and suggest it’s underpinnings are any less old than its competition. Really the 991 and 981 series Porsche’s are heavily revised 997 and 987 chassis architecture with carry over suspension, and I suspect there’s a lot in common with the 992 too.

For me what the F Type lacks is a modern interior and modern engines. I suspect if the interior had been fully refreshed with infotainment equivalent to Porsche, there’d be less complaints on here that it was old fashioned.
Does it really matter where the origins of the chassis come from if it still works? Does the fact that the engine is a real characterfull engine matter? Does the infotainment really matter in a sports car?
If you are more focused on the gadgets the car offers, but you'll hardly ever need, please buy elsewhere.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,068 posts

212 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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R400TVR said:
Does it really matter where the origins of the chassis come from if it still works? Does the fact that the engine is a real characterfull engine matter? Does the infotainment really matter in a sports car?
If you are more focused on the gadgets the car offers, but you'll hardly ever need, please buy elsewhere.
As I've said above, I think it does matter. These are almost always daily drivers. We have an R coupe in the family. The engine is mega but the infotainment system is poor compared to the idrive in the M6 this car replaced. When you're spending the thick end of £100k that is not acceptable and to use the argument "it doesn't matter, it's a sports car" is ridiculous. For that price, it should be a good sports car AND have good creature comforts. It's not designed to be a Lotus Elise.

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

225 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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I really like the new design. Especially the cabrio version. Makes the old one look dated (which is the sign of good design) and in the above side-by-side shot, actually makes the old one look big and un-gainly! (although that's likely just the angle of the photo).