taking delivery new CAyenne late dec - will i lose out??

taking delivery new CAyenne late dec - will i lose out??

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londonlaw

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92 posts

61 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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Local OPC tells me that 'if i don't take delivery by year end', they have been instructed by Porsche GB not to honour (previously agreed) fixed price on the year's price increase (since the order was put in).

Basically order for the Cayenne PHEV was put it late 2018; due to WLTP issues , production was delayed but the SM told me that they will honour the original 2019 price as since then, there has been slight increase - about £1800 overall.

Car has finally arrived & i've been sent porsche connect activation email/code.

but out of the blue, i had email from SA saying i HAVE to take delivery by latest by end of this month, otherwise, i'll have to pay the 'new' price.

Any advice??

LesMcQueen

319 posts

109 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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If you want it just get it?

aponting389

741 posts

178 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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Sounds reasonable

mikecassie

609 posts

159 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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Why wait, it'll be a 69 reg car anyway.
I think they are being fair, if you want, try getting some goodwill from the OPC to make taking the car before 2020 easier to swallow.

londonlaw

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92 posts

61 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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But i presume if i register the car december, in terms of re-sale, i'll lose out in say 5-6yrs time (ie how long i plan to keep it for) - 2019 vs 2020 car??

I asked for goodwill , because of above, but as expected from porsche, zilch.

OhThatHurtAbit

144 posts

78 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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In 5/6 years time the December 2019 to January 2020 used valuation will be almost no different.

londonlaw

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92 posts

61 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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Oh right, i didn't realise that.
I was merely using guestimates from parkers on previous model valuations - comparing one yr to the next within same number plate numeral, specifically 54 reg.

Cheib

23,245 posts

175 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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londonlaw said:
Oh right, i didn't realise that.
I was merely using guestimates from parkers on previous model valuations - comparing one yr to the next within same number plate numeral, specifically 54 reg.
Yup it’ll be no difference. Although I think your OPC is being economical with the truth....they want the car registered in 2019 because of performance bonuses etc. If they’ve agreed a price they have agreed a price....they can’t change it based on whether you take delivery within a few days.

Porsche GB wouldn’t be getting involved in when a single specific car is being delivered.

Been a tough year for OPC’s scrabbling to get sales booked.

Edited by Cheib on Tuesday 3rd December 21:40

londonlaw

Original Poster:

92 posts

61 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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Cheib said:
londonlaw said:
Oh right, i didn't realise that.
I was merely using guestimates from parkers on previous model valuations - comparing one yr to the next within same number plate numeral, specifically 54 reg.
Yup it’ll be no difference. Although I think your OPC is being economical with the truth....they want the car registered in 2019 because of performance bonuses etc. If they’ve agreed a price they have agreed a price....they can’t change it based on whether you take delivery within a few days.

Porsche GB wouldn’t be getting involved in when a single specific car is being delivered.

Been a tough year for OPC’s scrabbling to get sales booked.

Edited by Cheib on Tuesday 3rd December 21:40
Good point - i never thought of that - seeing from the OPC, or rather the individual saleperson's point of view.

So, if the car value is not going to be dented one bit in 5-6yrs time, in terms of resale value, presumably the earlier i get the car the better (instead of sitting outside the showroom for next 1month)?? i almost feel like taking the OPC to task for trying to pull a fast one. I'm originally from the States & the whole process seems a little more transparent.

jh001

615 posts

177 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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I’m sure the salesman is just pushing to get the sale complete prior to year end, as for the USA being more transparent, can’t a dealer charge over mrrp if they want to?

Porsche guy

3,465 posts

227 months

Wednesday 4th December 2019
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Cheib said:
Been a tough year for OPC’s scrabbling to get sales booked.
I've heard the same

mikecassie

609 posts

159 months

Wednesday 4th December 2019
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Porsche guy said:
Cheib said:
Been a tough year for OPC’s scrabbling to get sales booked.
I've heard the same
You'd not think that by my local OPC's attitude... 2 other OPC's were a lot more accommodating when I was looking at buying a car.

Cheib

23,245 posts

175 months

Wednesday 4th December 2019
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mikecassie said:
Porsche guy said:
Cheib said:
Been a tough year for OPC’s scrabbling to get sales booked.
I've heard the same
You'd not think that by my local OPC's attitude... 2 other OPC's were a lot more accommodating when I was looking at buying a car.
I know taking to the Sales Exec at my OPC that some of his colleagues are having trouble getting their heads around the concept of making outgoing phone calls....it’s been a relatively easy job for the last five years...until this year.

I spoke to a Sales Exec at another OPC yesterday about a Panny Sporrt Turismo demonstrator they have.......really poor. Just no attempt to sell me the car/find out why I was buying it/whether I already owned a Porsche etc etc. Schoolboy stuff.

cayman-black

12,644 posts

216 months

Wednesday 4th December 2019
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OhThatHurtAbit said:
In 5/6 years time the December 2019 to January 2020 used valuation will be almost no different.
It will be worth fk all by then.

londonlaw

Original Poster:

92 posts

61 months

Wednesday 4th December 2019
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cayman-black said:
It will be worth fk all by then.
Which makes the case for a two x 3yr lease rather than outright purchase of anything from the standard range?

londonlaw

Original Poster:

92 posts

61 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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Cheib said:
I know taking to the Sales Exec at my OPC that some of his colleagues are having trouble getting their heads around the concept of making outgoing phone calls....it’s been a relatively easy job for the last five years...until this year.

I spoke to a Sales Exec at another OPC yesterday about a Panny Sporrt Turismo demonstrator they have.......really poor. Just no attempt to sell me the car/find out why I was buying it/whether I already owned a Porsche etc etc. Schoolboy stuff.
Just had a call, now offering free wrap if i take it off their hands by year end. So, they are desperate to make the end year figures, just not showing it.

Cheib

23,245 posts

175 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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londonlaw said:
Just had a call, now offering free wrap if i take it off their hands by year end. So, they are desperate to make the end year figures, just not showing it.
Ah so things have progressed and they’ve changed their tune ?

Ask for the first service free...something that has genuine fiscal value to you. They’ve probably offered the wrap (I assume PPF) as it will cost them bugger all. I also would not take that as you can get some really st jobs which you wouldn’t want to get in an argument about.

Free first service and I’d take the car.

londonlaw

Original Poster:

92 posts

61 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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Cheib said:
Ah so things have progressed and they’ve changed their tune ?

Ask for the first service free...something that has genuine fiscal value to you. They’ve probably offered the wrap (I assume PPF) as it will cost them bugger all. I also would not take that as you can get some really st jobs which you wouldn’t want to get in an argument about.

Free first service and I’d take the car.
you reckon i should reject the wrap ?
Cost-wise (to me), it seems to be more than a service, plus service is only at 20k but wrap i get now . Wonder anything else i could ask......

Cheib

23,245 posts

175 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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londonlaw said:
Cheib said:
Ah so things have progressed and they’ve changed their tune ?

Ask for the first service free...something that has genuine fiscal value to you. They’ve probably offered the wrap (I assume PPF) as it will cost them bugger all. I also would not take that as you can get some really st jobs which you wouldn’t want to get in an argument about.

Free first service and I’d take the car.
you reckon i should reject the wrap ?
Cost-wise (to me), it seems to be more than a service, plus service is only at 20k but wrap i get now . Wonder anything else i could ask......
Personally I’d reject it as the quality of application varies hugely....depends who is fitting it and whether you can see what they have done before. Badly done PPF can look awful as the edges trap dirt so it makes washing the car harder and you get lines of dirt so you need to wash the car more often.

I suggested a service as it’s not cheap and is something you definitely need. Roof box, winter tyres, roof bars etc ?!

danjp

129 posts

171 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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I'd suggest having a look at the approved used stock - there is a sudden rush of brand new, pre-reg cars, which have obviously been building up as they waited for emissions approval, come to dealers. They are all the same high-ish spec, and depending on how you play them off each other, you should be able to get at least 12k off list - I just did on a Cayenne Hybrid Coupe. Are you getting that off your order?

Just cancel your order, and buy one of these smile

for example: https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en_GB/Cayenne-EHybri...