RE: McLaren 620R revealed as £250k GT4 clone
Discussion
Gameface said:
Well the GT3's use completely different engines to the Carrera for starters.
The ones you cannot get as much power or torque out of 
I think the point was that there is a hierarchy of sportiness which Mclaren is replicating here.
I'm going to be old fashioned and wait for the road testers views on whether it differentiates itself enough. I'm guessing it will be fantastic to drive, but then again it's a fair amount more than the 600LT.
It's not that difficult to tell apart a 570S from a 600LT from this, to be fair. And the difference in terms of driving dynamics between the 570S and the 600LT is substantial - GTS to GT3 substantial.
Having driven the 600LT, I am sure this will be fantastic as a track toy.
The criticism I have to agree with (as an ex McLaren owner and regular at their events) is that they have really mastered the art of pissing on and off their client base, in all sorts of ways. I could write a book about it by now.
Having driven the 600LT, I am sure this will be fantastic as a track toy.
The criticism I have to agree with (as an ex McLaren owner and regular at their events) is that they have really mastered the art of pissing on and off their client base, in all sorts of ways. I could write a book about it by now.
chris_at_mac said:
It's not that difficult to tell apart a 570S from a 600LT from this, to be fair. And the difference in terms of driving dynamics between the 570S and the 600LT is substantial - GTS to GT3 substantial.
Having driven the 600LT, I am sure this will be fantastic as a track toy.
The criticism I have to agree with (as an ex McLaren owner and regular at their events) is that they have really mastered the art of pissing on and off their client base, in all sorts of ways. I could write a book about it by now.
I may well be wrong but won't this and the 600LT be coming from different angles and because of this will inherently feel different anyway? It shouldn't be unfathomable that there is likely to be clearly definable differences in the sensations offered between one model that is aimed at road use predominantly but has more concessions to driver involvement/track usage than the standard cars and another model that appears to be aiming squarely towards track usage predominantly but still has all of the neccessary concessions expected to make it usable on road? It will then just be up to any individuals to decide which of the two cars suits their own style/aspirations of feel/prefrences for use best?Having driven the 600LT, I am sure this will be fantastic as a track toy.
The criticism I have to agree with (as an ex McLaren owner and regular at their events) is that they have really mastered the art of pissing on and off their client base, in all sorts of ways. I could write a book about it by now.
Edited by gigglebug on Monday 9th December 12:33
Great power to weight.
Sounds an interesting car.
Kick in the nuts for 600 and 720 owners though. Think I just heard an immediate recurring £30k price crash on these. Or is it the owners who bought new topping themselves.
Christmas sales come early.
Sounds an interesting car.
Kick in the nuts for 600 and 720 owners though. Think I just heard an immediate recurring £30k price crash on these. Or is it the owners who bought new topping themselves.
Christmas sales come early.
Edited by av185 on Monday 9th December 13:38
Edited by av185 on Monday 9th December 13:39
av185 said:
Great power to weight.
Sounds an interesting car.
Kick in the nuts for 600 and 720 owners though. Think I just heard an immediate recurring £30k price crash on these. Or is it the owners who bought new topping themselves.
Christmas sales come early.
Why? Is it a kick in the nuts to GT3 owners when Porsche release the GT3RS?Sounds an interesting car.
Kick in the nuts for 600 and 720 owners though. Think I just heard an immediate recurring £30k price crash on these. Or is it the owners who bought new topping themselves.
Christmas sales come early.
And 720S is a totally different type of car to a track day special with coil overs etc
For a lineup which are visually very difficult to differentiate between, could they not find the money for the redesigned deck lid and roof snorkel? At least it would have been something different!
I'm sure it'll be very good and competent and sell out and etc etc. - I'm not exactly their target audience!
I'm sure it'll be very good and competent and sell out and etc etc. - I'm not exactly their target audience!
I like this - they even sell you slicks with it, probably the closest to the track version you can get on a road car nowadays. Having said that, I would not buy it (too expensive for me)
And I kinda agree with others, it is a little like Carrera - GT3 - RS at Porsche. I guess at a stretch the 720 could then be compared to the Turbo S and the LT version of that to the GT2 RS. And Porsche has a lot more Carrera versions/iterations to choose from than the 5xx series at McL.
And I kinda agree with others, it is a little like Carrera - GT3 - RS at Porsche. I guess at a stretch the 720 could then be compared to the Turbo S and the LT version of that to the GT2 RS. And Porsche has a lot more Carrera versions/iterations to choose from than the 5xx series at McL.
J2daG1990 said:
Now we just need a Caterham 620R Vs McLaren 620R faceoff on track to see which is the better 620R 
Probably pretty close. A 2.5 Duratec Caterham race car with similar power to a 620R does a 2min09.970sec lap of the GP circuit.https://www.facebook.com/racelogic/videos/46851309...
Fastest qualifying 570S GT4 on slicks was a 2min12.720sec
https://www.tsl-timing.com/event/192305/session/qu...
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