RE: Porsche Taycan 4S | Driven

RE: Porsche Taycan 4S | Driven

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Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

189 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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PBCD said:
Schermerhorn said:
If I bought one of these could I charge it at home from my mains plug and how long would it take to fully charge the battery?
Out of curiosity, why would you drop £83k on a car like this but not spend £300 or so to get a dedicated charger fitted?? confused

Schermerhorn said:
I was expecting a fully charged battery in 1 hour...
Unless you are an uber/private hire driver(rather unlikely with a Taycan!), why would you need to charge at home in an hour?






Edited by PBCD on Thursday 12th December 05:21
Why not? I'm paying £83k.

lukeyman

1,009 posts

135 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Schermerhorn said:
Why not? I'm paying £83k.
No you're not.

Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

189 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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lukeyman said:
Schermerhorn said:
Why not? I'm paying £83k.
No you're not.
Its hypothetical. Look at my first post.

If I am paying £80k+ on an electric car that claims to be cutting edge is it wrong to expect it to charge, from the luxury of my own home, in a quick time?

dvb70

118 posts

107 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Twoshoe said:
Why don't manufacturers of electric cars cover roofs, bonnets and boots (and possibly side panels too) with solar panels? I appreciate they would only provide a small proportion of the required power (and some may not like the look), but it would of course be free, and if you left the car outside all day during the summer (even a British one), it's got to be worth something surely?
I would love to see a technical answer on this from an expert on EV's.

It seems to me if you only get a few percent a day it would still be worth while and actually having the car get a very small trickle of charge while driving around would surely do something for range. Even if it's only a mile or two.

donteatpeople

831 posts

274 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Schermerhorn said:
lukeyman said:
Schermerhorn said:
Why not? I'm paying £83k.
No you're not.
Its hypothetical. Look at my first post.

If I am paying £80k+ on an electric car that claims to be cutting edge is it wrong to expect it to charge, from the luxury of my own home, in a quick time?
Of course it’s wrong. It doesn’t matter how quickly the car can accept the energy if your home can’t deliver it.

That’s like buying a fire engine and complaining that it doesn’t fill fast enough from your garden hose.

Dave Hedgehog

14,550 posts

204 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Schermerhorn said:
Its hypothetical. Look at my first post.

If I am paying £80k+ on an electric car that claims to be cutting edge is it wrong to expect it to charge, from the luxury of my own home, in a quick time?
buy a fast charger at home then, 50k will cover it

Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

189 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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donteatpeople said:
Schermerhorn said:
lukeyman said:
Schermerhorn said:
Why not? I'm paying £83k.
No you're not.
Its hypothetical. Look at my first post.

If I am paying £80k+ on an electric car that claims to be cutting edge is it wrong to expect it to charge, from the luxury of my own home, in a quick time?
Of course it’s wrong. It doesn’t matter how quickly the car can accept the energy if your home can’t deliver it.

That’s like buying a fire engine and complaining that it doesn’t fill fast enough from your garden hose.
Well then surely it's pointless having fast charging capabilities within the car's hardware itself but not then having the means or facilities to completely make use of it, no?

I understand there are charging stations here and there but if electric cars become more mainstream and there aren't enough "stations" in place, there is a problem.

Genuinely I'm not trying to troll here, I'm totally clueless about EV's and how the whole charging capabilities work. The Taycan is the first electric car I've ever taken an interest in so I have all these questions.

Dave Hedgehog

14,550 posts

204 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Schermerhorn said:
Well then surely it's pointless having fast charging capabilities within the car's hardware itself but not then having the means or facilities to completely make use of it, no?

I understand there are charging stations here and there but if electric cars become more mainstream and there aren't enough "stations" in place, there is a problem.

Genuinely I'm not trying to troll here, I'm totally clueless about EV's and how the whole charging capabilities work. The Taycan is the first electric car I've ever taken an interest in so I have all these questions.
the charging infrastructure, especially rapid/faster chargers, will expand as EV update increases, rapid chargers are aimed at mid journey use

In the same way as petrol stations did

Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Thursday 12th December 13:53

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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I recently has a shot in Tesla 3.

Made my petrol feel obsolete within the first mile.

I'm ready to go electric next time, not because of Greta, but because it is epic.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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I drove a Model 3 and thought it was a POS. Fine if you just want to get places but not for me.

donteatpeople

831 posts

274 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Schermerhorn said:
donteatpeople said:
Schermerhorn said:
lukeyman said:
Schermerhorn said:
Why not? I'm paying £83k.
No you're not.
Its hypothetical. Look at my first post.

If I am paying £80k+ on an electric car that claims to be cutting edge is it wrong to expect it to charge, from the luxury of my own home, in a quick time?
Of course it’s wrong. It doesn’t matter how quickly the car can accept the energy if your home can’t deliver it.

That’s like buying a fire engine and complaining that it doesn’t fill fast enough from your garden hose.
Well then surely it's pointless having fast charging capabilities within the car's hardware itself but not then having the means or facilities to completely make use of it, no?

I understand there are charging stations here and there but if electric cars become more mainstream and there aren't enough "stations" in place, there is a problem.

Genuinely I'm not trying to troll here, I'm totally clueless about EV's and how the whole charging capabilities work. The Taycan is the first electric car I've ever taken an interest in so I have all these questions.
It would be pointless if there was no way of fast charging at all. Fast chargers exist but they need industrial style power supplies that normal homes would have no need for. Most people that charge at home are there for hours anyway so a slower charge rate isn't the inconvenience it would be half way through a road trip.


RemarkLima

2,374 posts

212 months

Thursday 19th December 2019
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SidewaysSi said:
I drove a Model 3 and thought it was a POS. Fine if you just want to get places but not for me.
I've just been loaned a bmw 320i and it's pretty anodyne to be honest... The Model 3 test drive I felt was comparable in pretty much every way. That before you get on to VW products with vague steering.

So unless you're in a porsche, lotus or Caterham, everything is just about getting to places it seems to me.

Maybe I was just pretty disappointed with the 420i...