Born in the UK?

[saaby93]

Just found this link
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50782411
showing that for Blyth
5% of live births in 2018 were to non-UK mothers. England's average is 29.1%


29.1% of kids in England are born to non-UK mothers?

[Crumpet]

saaby93 said:

29.1% of kids in England are born to non-UK mothers?

Two recent(ish) experiences of hospitals and their maternity wards would suggest to me that your figure sounds a bit low!

We honestly felt a bit lost amongst the underclass natives and the non English speaking immigrants. Middle-class, white and British was definitely the minority.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Crumpet said:

Two recent(ish) experiences of hospitals and their maternity wards would suggest to me that your figure sounds a bit low!

We honestly felt a bit lost amongst the underclass natives and the non English speaking immigrants. Middle-class, white and British was definitely the minority.

How do you know they aren't British, even if they aren't white?

[Crumpet]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

How do you know they aren't British, even if they aren't white?

To be fair I didn’t say they weren’t white! And yes, I realise there are native Brits who don’t speak English, so there’s a huge amount of generalisation going on in my comment.

But it’s a reasonably fair assumption that if they’re requiring translators they’re likely to be recent immigrants.

And, for balance, I’m not saying this situation is right or wrong or whether I indeed actually care. But it is what I saw and it does relate to the figures in the original post. And as middle-class, white people we were definitely the minority.

[i4got]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

How do you know they aren't British, even if they aren't white?

Maybe he judged them? Thats OK though isn't it? It's a free country.

TwigtheWonderkid said:

i4got said:

You're not and the fact that you think you are give, suggests you may be better suited to mumsnet.

I really am, just in the same way you're entitled to judge me, and just have.

It's a free country (for the time being).

[saaby93]

Steady


Would 29.1% be similar across other countries?
Remember that's an average so with Blyth on 5% there may be other places much higher than 29.1%

[Murph7355]

saaby93 said:

Steady

Would 29.1% be similar across other countries?
Remember that's an average so with Blyth on 5% there may be other places much higher than 29.1%

There is no "may" about it. There definitively will be.

This is why averages mask many things... And why the recent phenomena in our politics and society have taken hold with large swathes not understanding, or worse entirely dismissing, the "problem" (of this particular facet of life).

I suspect there's always been a challenge with the differences between multiculturalism and integrated immigration. It just happens to be coming to a had.

This is not unique to the UK. Very far from it.

[KrissKross]

If I and my wife had a baby in China, would it make our baby Chinese?

[Vanden Saab]

saaby93 said:

Just found this link
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50782411
showing that for Blyth
5% of live births in 2018 were to non-UK mothers. England's average is 29.1%


29.1% of kids in England are born to non-UK mothers?

May be I am missing something but why would the BBC even mention live birth statistics in a piece about why a Labour seat was won by the Tories...

[i4got]

Vanden Saab said:

saaby93 said:

Just found this link
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50782411
showing that for Blyth
5% of live births in 2018 were to non-UK mothers. England's average is 29.1%


29.1% of kids in England are born to non-UK mothers?

May be I am missing something but why would the BBC even mention live birth statistics in a piece about why a Labour seat was won by the Tories...

To get their subtext across that it's a white racist area.?

[TCX]

Crumpet said:

saaby93 said:

29.1% of kids in England are born to non-UK mothers?

Two recent(ish) experiences of hospitals and their maternity wards would suggest to me that your figure sounds a bit low!

We honestly felt a bit lost amongst the underclass natives and the non English speaking immigrants. Middle-class, white and British was definitely the minority.

Lost amongst the underclass natives,what ho,no punkawallahs to control the climate during tiffin?
Would the gift the power give you,to see yourself as other see you

[saaby93]

more here
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunit...

[Crumpet]

saaby93 said:

more here
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunit...

Quite a correlation on this chart with when Labour came into power in 1997 and supposedly opened the borders to uncontrolled immigration.

[Countdown]

KrissKross said:

If I and my wife had a baby in China, would it make our baby Chinese?

If you or your wife were Chinese nationals then yes, it would.

[anonymous-user]

i4got said:

Vanden Saab said:

saaby93 said:

Just found this link
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50782411
showing that for Blyth
5% of live births in 2018 were to non-UK mothers. England's average is 29.1%


29.1% of kids in England are born to non-UK mothers?

May be I am missing something but why would the BBC even mention live birth statistics in a piece about why a Labour seat was won by the Tories...

To get their subtext across that it's a white racist area.?

Did either of you actually read the article ?

For your own sakes I am almost hoping you didn’t because if you did and don’t understand the relevance you really are either exceptionally stupid or somewhat paranoid.

[i4got]

Brooking10 said:

Did either of you actually read the article ?

For your own sakes I am almost hoping you didn’t because if you did and don’t understand the relevance you really are either exceptionally stupid or somewhat paranoid.

Person who peddles the narrative that Tory/Brexit voters are dumb racists is not surprised by article that peddles the narrative that Tory/Brexit voters are dumb racists.

[motco]

Gromm said:

Countdown said:

KrissKross said:

If I and my wife had a baby in China, would it make our baby Chinese?

If you or your wife were Chinese nationals then yes, it would.

My mate and his missus never been to China but lo and behold, their daughter who is now 3 looks very Chinese. They had a chap from Hong Kong staying with them three and half years ago or something.

Caught it off the lavatory seat I guess...

[motco]

Of those who were not UK born and gave birth here, how many were actually resident here rather than giving birth en passant or as a health tourist?

[Sheepshanks]

saaby93 said:

Remember that's an average so with Blyth on 5% there may be other places much higher than 29.1%

75.4% in Brent.

[Jinx]

KrissKross said:

If I and my wife had a baby in China, would it make our baby Chinese?

Depends - did you want another one after ten minutes......