Six cars we can't wait to drive in 2020
Discussion
Grindle said:
big_rob_sydney said:
Grindle said:
richthebike said:
seanyboyy said:
yawn, not much innovation in that lot.
TBH unless we can afford to buy stuff costing a fortune, all that exotica above is irrelevant. On the wider point here, i never have got why people get so excited about an upcoming car costing X amount of £££ zillions that the likes of me and 99% of other people are probably never going to see on the road, let alone drive or (hell freezes over) OWN!
I would rather stick to what i have a chance of owning.
''Latest McLaren has 40 bhp more than last year's and through the use of titanium and carbon weighs 40 kgs less''. Well my life will be so much better for that!
Do you currently enjoy a car with ABS? How about something with a Sat Nav, or maybe even something as fancy as electric windows? Would it surprise you to learn that these items were once on top end models, but then found their way to more mainstream models?
Something that will be installed on top end cars today will eventually find its way to normal cars tomorrow.
If your complaint is you wont ever afford a Ferrari, then I get it. But if your complaint is you'll never afford certain features, then I don't understand that.
SidewaysSi said:
But this article is what the PH guys can't wait to drive. And they obviously aren't excited about what may tickle your cherry.
It's a bit like sex. Some people find shagging the average girl missionary style to be the height of filthy excitement. Whilst others may find an orgy with 15 models a bit dull..
Kindly put my name down for the Yaris and the orgy. Thanks.It's a bit like sex. Some people find shagging the average girl missionary style to be the height of filthy excitement. Whilst others may find an orgy with 15 models a bit dull..
robsa said:
Onehp said:
The GR Yaris for me.
It's something I haven't seen before, a small, light, driver focused 4wd car, much more than a hot hatch.
I knew a guy who had a Mazda 323 GTR(?) in 1989 I think it was - 4x4, 1.6 turbocharged 16v. 30 years ago! And it was mental too - mind you it was a rally car with hand-cut slicks... It's something I haven't seen before, a small, light, driver focused 4wd car, much more than a hot hatch.
FaNtheMaN26 said:
MikeM6 said:
My theory is to make a bespoke rally-car-for-the-road is probably much cheaper to develop than a bespoke 350hp (ish) coupe.
It must also be much more easy to develop a 250hp small car that is is complaint with modern legislation than a larger higher power model. Team up with the expensive project, go solo on the cheaper one.
Yeah fair enough... Let's hope the production version gets a bit better than the topgear review though https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/yaris/first-dr...It must also be much more easy to develop a 250hp small car that is is complaint with modern legislation than a larger higher power model. Team up with the expensive project, go solo on the cheaper one.
This one is, imho, confused about the suspension - a good rally suspension is compliant, expecting it to be hard is what is wrong with many a (lowered) hot hatch - drivers think they are super sporty (and better than stock), while in fact they are st for going fast on a bumpy b-road. It's number one reason for me to
As for the grown up bit - hope they keep that (legislation if anything makes it compulsary now). For me, I'm not 20 and single anymore and don't feel any need for 'aural exitement', annoying pops and bangs and a loud cabin for the sake of it. If you like that, there will surely be aftermarket solutions - toyota keeps that in mind from the start just as with the gt86 and the Supra. The interior engine note seems just right to me, offbeat 3 sounds great if not loud.
As for it being not so playful, other reviews disagree. Also 4wd is always going to feel stable unless you provoke it properly.... The optional limited slip differentials fore and aft will make it a bit larier once you push hard enough...
Edited by Onehp on Sunday 5th January 23:43
Onehp said:
robsa said:
Onehp said:
The GR Yaris for me.
It's something I haven't seen before, a small, light, driver focused 4wd car, much more than a hot hatch.
I knew a guy who had a Mazda 323 GTR(?) in 1989 I think it was - 4x4, 1.6 turbocharged 16v. 30 years ago! And it was mental too - mind you it was a rally car with hand-cut slicks... It's something I haven't seen before, a small, light, driver focused 4wd car, much more than a hot hatch.
Made for competition too
s m said:
Pre-dating the Mazda and Nissan by 5 or 6 years there was also the Citroen Visa Mille Pistes - small hot hatch and 4wd
Made for competition too
Cool, didn't realise they made this. Neighbour had a Visa which he drove like an utter nutter, almost literally on its doorhandles, it just took it. This special 112hp, 850kg and 4x4 is quite unique. Made for competition too
Reminds me a bit of the original Subaru Justy, fun little 4x4 three pot car that too even if officially a 'normal' car...
Actually see this Yaris in similar ethos, if not obviously a lot more serious piece of kit
Pvapour said:
None of the above anymore, they’re dinosaurs, still love them (and drive them) but not the future
For me..
Jaguar XJ ev
Audi GT
Any luxury ev saloon offering in fact..
Wow yeah. I too often wake in the night thinking when oh when will yet more ‘luxury saloons’ get here...For me..
Jaguar XJ ev
Audi GT
Any luxury ev saloon offering in fact..
Each is more thrilling than the last.
SidewaysSi said:
But this article is what the PH guys can't wait to drive. And they obviously aren't excited about what may tickle your cherry.
It's a bit like sex. Some people find shagging the average girl missionary style to be the height of filthy excitement. Whilst others may find an orgy with 15 models a bit dull..
Am I not allowed to enjoy both? It's a bit like sex. Some people find shagging the average girl missionary style to be the height of filthy excitement. Whilst others may find an orgy with 15 models a bit dull..
Onehp said:
There are more reviews.
This one is, imho, confused about the suspension - a good rally suspension is compliant, expecting it to be hard is what is wrong with many a (lowered) hot hatch - drivers think they are super sporty (and better than stock), while in fact they are st for going fast on a bumpy b-road. It's number one reason for me tolike love this car, similarly to why an A110 is great - suspension travel is not an enemy....
As for the grown up bit - hope they keep that (legislation if anything makes it compulsary now). For me, I'm not 20 and single anymore and don't feel any need for 'aural exitement', annoying pops and bangs and a loud cabin for the sake of it. If you like that, there will surely be aftermarket solutions - toyota keeps that in mind from the start just as with the gt86 and the Supra. The interior engine note seems just right to me, offbeat 3 sounds great if not loud.
As for it being not so playful, other reviews disagree. Also 4wd is always going to feel stable unless you provoke it properly.... The optional limited slip differentials fore and aft will make it a bit larier once you push hard enough...
A lot to agree with here! What's good for ride on a B-road is invariably good for the handling.This one is, imho, confused about the suspension - a good rally suspension is compliant, expecting it to be hard is what is wrong with many a (lowered) hot hatch - drivers think they are super sporty (and better than stock), while in fact they are st for going fast on a bumpy b-road. It's number one reason for me to
As for the grown up bit - hope they keep that (legislation if anything makes it compulsary now). For me, I'm not 20 and single anymore and don't feel any need for 'aural exitement', annoying pops and bangs and a loud cabin for the sake of it. If you like that, there will surely be aftermarket solutions - toyota keeps that in mind from the start just as with the gt86 and the Supra. The interior engine note seems just right to me, offbeat 3 sounds great if not loud.
As for it being not so playful, other reviews disagree. Also 4wd is always going to feel stable unless you provoke it properly.... The optional limited slip differentials fore and aft will make it a bit larier once you push hard enough...
Edited by Onehp on Sunday 5th January 23:43
The pops and bangs from young Barry's Corsa are quite amusing, but with a middle-aged Barry in a Lamborghini Urine or somesuch it's just embarrasingly sad.
Bobby Lee said:
Pvapour said:
None of the above anymore, they’re dinosaurs, still love them (and drive them) but not the future
For me..
Jaguar XJ ev
Audi GT
Any luxury ev saloon offering in fact..
Wow yeah. I too often wake in the night thinking when oh when will yet more ‘luxury saloons’ get here...For me..
Jaguar XJ ev
Audi GT
Any luxury ev saloon offering in fact..
Each is more thrilling than the last.
You obviously own fun cars and have done most fun cars to death and are looking to add luxury to your collection as well, well done and lucky you
Edited by Pvapour on Monday 6th January 11:34
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