RE: Suzuki forced to cut UK Jimny allocation
Discussion
PSB1 said:
+1. We voted for this, inadvertently. There are advantages and disadvantages of Brexit, so we'll just have to suck this one up. Just one example of an unintended consequence.
"We voted for this, inadvertently" is going to be oft repeated in the coming yearsAlmost like there was no point to this stupid palava in the first place.
Bagzie88 said:
I would wonder who's to blame for that though , The engine is not a Suzuki engine and Suzuki don't have a diesal engine in there entire lineup anymore.
They do have a 0.8L turbodiesel in some markets, their own 2-cyl E08A. It only does about 48hp but the SuperCarry uses it in Asia.
Hub said:
I don't really understand this - it is a relatively new model, and the EU regs haven't come suddenly out of the blue! Wasn't this thought about at the design stage, rather than shoving in what sounds like an ancient old n/a engine? I guess it isn't a large market for them.
Similar thing has hit the MX5- they upped the power of the NA 2.0, but as a result had to limit the amount sold. The EU seem to be really serious about the latest round of Co2 regs. Enjoy N/A where you can find it, because the limbo dance seems to be entering the finals where all the easy cuts have already been made.glazbagun said:
Hub said:
I don't really understand this - it is a relatively new model, and the EU regs haven't come suddenly out of the blue! Wasn't this thought about at the design stage, rather than shoving in what sounds like an ancient old n/a engine? I guess it isn't a large market for them.
Similar thing has hit the MX5- they upped the power of the NA 2.0, but as a result had to limit the amount sold. The EU seem to be really serious about the latest round of Co2 regs. Enjoy N/A where you can find it, because the limbo dance seems to be entering the finals where all the easy cuts have already been made.Don Roque said:
What a shame, a handy little 4x4 for people that might have actually used it for more than just double parking and cracking pavements outside schools. It's an important car for Suzuki too, being effectively their signature model.
Apparently they may turn it commercial and can then sell to hill farmers etc who need itIs there really a market for a teeny tiny commercial vehicle with minimal towing capability though? I suspect most people who buy the current version are the same urban cowboys who have made up the bulk of 4x4 ownership since the 80s.
I live in the deepest countryside and even with the floods we've have lately have never needed a daily driver any more off road oriented than a 2wd crossover (for the ground clearance). My Land rover rarely goes anywhere that would test it's off road capabilities.
Whether we are in the EU or not we are still signed up to the same market requirements as regards emissions and safety testing. I can't see that changing, we aren't a big enough market to have our own market specifications.
I live in the deepest countryside and even with the floods we've have lately have never needed a daily driver any more off road oriented than a 2wd crossover (for the ground clearance). My Land rover rarely goes anywhere that would test it's off road capabilities.
Whether we are in the EU or not we are still signed up to the same market requirements as regards emissions and safety testing. I can't see that changing, we aren't a big enough market to have our own market specifications.
Motormatt said:
otolith said:
Blib said:
Yet still emits 114g/km of CO2 - when they need to get their average down to sub-95. In fact, Fiat/Chrysler, because they don't sell so many massive lumbering SUVs, is only allowed 92g/km.
I think the weight allowance in the equation ends in 2021, thats when these regs will really start to bite.
ash73 said:
They don't even offer decent colours here, no dark green... just white, silver and black. Why would anyone buy a 4x4 in white?
Errrr for people who will use them properly white is the best colour as scratches from branches (known as pinstripes) are least seen on white paint.cailean said:
They don't, which is why they can do it. My local dealer claims to be getting a used press car and will be pricing it at 23k. I also heard sales staff are buying them new and selling/flipping privately through the dealer.
Not something we've seen much, it certainly wouldn't happen at our place. Heads would roll! I'm not saying it doesn't happen though!cailean said:
RenaultSport Clios are also no more due to EU emissions targets...
RS Clio has been gone for a while now, last ones registered were on 68 plates IIRC.cailean said:
They don't, which is why they can do it. My local dealer claims to be getting a used press car and will be pricing it at 23k. I also heard sales staff are buying them new and selling/flipping privately through the dealer.
This sort of thing used to happen with manufacturer head office staff buying cars on employee discount and flipping them. Understandably, HMRC took a dim view of this, and any 'privileged purchases' (i.e. something not available to Joe Public) have to be held for a minimum of 12 months at most places now.
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