RE: Toyota MR2 GT-S | Spotted

RE: Toyota MR2 GT-S | Spotted

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White-Noise

3,807 posts

201 months

Monday 3rd February
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fullleather said:
Had the exact car back in 2002 on a 94 plate, the usual yellow fogs, side lights, red-flare thing in the passenger foot well. speed limiter set at the 112mph mark. It was reliable all the way to 100,000 miles on the original clutch even. sold on ebay for £8000 to a German buyer who flew over here to collect it.
Coming from a regular AW11 into this 3SGTE was nothing short of a great thing indeed. I'll never forget the surge in third gear as the sales chap demonstrated how you had to floor it in order to get the boost.....imho it never looked better than in pure white.
Funny I sold mind to a guy from Germany (Kaho was his name)

I had a white rev3 turbo, was an incredible car with the right mods, outpaced my dads c5 vette, so much fun, had it for a decade and then sold it to the guy from Germany but it's now in Belgium.

He imported lots of them from the UK, said the low prices compared to other Jap cars like skylines etc as these didnt feature in Fast and furious. I guess the weak pound contributed to his position.

They are a bargain for the performance. Mine sold for 5k£ at 94k. I paid under 4k originally but it definitely owed me money as they always do

Ian Geary

1,893 posts

145 months

Monday 3rd February
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I had a steel mist grey 1994 gts, from 2005 to 2010.

I rebuild the engine and with the tb developments decat and a few other bits it made 280bhp.

I never quite trusted the handling though, especially in the wet.

Undecided on the tbars...they leaked, squeaked, were unbearably hot to remove in summer after being left in the sun, and intolerable to drive the car over 60 with them out (stuff in the car would float up and out)


I sold it for peanuts, but it was well used and would never have attracted this sort of money.

The alternatives I was pondering at the time of buying were a 200sx or st205, but both were a bit more pricey. However, both of those models have held their value really well.

mikey P 500

1,134 posts

140 months

Monday 3rd February
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Had a very similar white rev3 turbo hard top a few years ago. Mine was also fairly stock when bought but did add some modifications. They are nice cars but crazy how much old JDM cars cost. At the time a good mr2 turbo was £2.5k but a boxster S was £20k plus now you can buy a boxster S or even Cayman for far less than a mr2. So can't see the appeal at this price as the cheap JDM sports car is now more expensive than the prestige cars they aiming to mimic. The boxster mid engine handling is far superior to the MK2 mr2.

PartOfTheProblem

1,872 posts

124 months

Tuesday 4th February
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Guvernator said:
Always liked the idea of these and keep thinking one would make a great weekend\track car.

At £10k I'd probably be tempted by a clean Beams version instead though. Pretty rare with a 220bhp Yamaha tuned NA engine that revs to 8K. The turbo would be a bit quicker and easier to tune but I just think the highly tuned NA makes the Beams version just a little bit more special.
I agree, the Rev5 BEAMS is a peach and really does seem to be the pick of the range imho. If this one is as nice as it sounds then I think it's a bargain.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324052427835

Bibbs

3,674 posts

163 months

Tuesday 4th February
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CDP said:
It's a more grown up car and feels significantly more expensive, which is probably because it was...
Using Celica parts, instead of cheaper Corolla parts like the mk1 and mk3.

I had 2, a rev1 UK car, and then a heavily modded rev2 import.

Loved it. But after having a serious heater matrix leak, 5th and reverse fall out the gearbox, and then constant overheating I got rid of it.

s m

19,040 posts

156 months

Tuesday 4th February
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PartOfTheProblem said:
Guvernator said:
Always liked the idea of these and keep thinking one would make a great weekend\track car.

At £10k I'd probably be tempted by a clean Beams version instead though. Pretty rare with a 220bhp Yamaha tuned NA engine that revs to 8K. The turbo would be a bit quicker and easier to tune but I just think the highly tuned NA makes the Beams version just a little bit more special.
I agree, the Rev5 BEAMS is a peach and really does seem to be the pick of the range imho. If this one is as nice as it sounds then I think it's a bargain.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324052427835
That’s a rare thing
Bit like the engine in the RS200 Altezza

PartOfTheProblem

1,872 posts

124 months

Tuesday 4th February
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s m said:
PartOfTheProblem said:
Guvernator said:
Always liked the idea of these and keep thinking one would make a great weekend\track car.

At £10k I'd probably be tempted by a clean Beams version instead though. Pretty rare with a 220bhp Yamaha tuned NA engine that revs to 8K. The turbo would be a bit quicker and easier to tune but I just think the highly tuned NA makes the Beams version just a little bit more special.
I agree, the Rev5 BEAMS is a peach and really does seem to be the pick of the range imho. If this one is as nice as it sounds then I think it's a bargain.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324052427835
That’s a rare thing
Bit like the engine in the RS200 Altezza
The Altezza R200 is the 'black top' BEAMS. The 'red top' BEAMS is only found in the MR2, Celica and Caldina.

From Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_S_engine

The fourth-generation 3S-GE, also known as the 'Red Top BEAMS' 3S-GE began production in 1997. BEAMS is an acronym which stands for Breakthrough Engine with Advanced Mechanism System.

The first version was equipped with VVT-i and produced 200 PS (147 kW; 197 hp) at 7,000 rpm when coupled to a manual transmission. The automatic version produced 190 PS (140 kW; 187 bhp) at 7000 rpm; this is believed to be an ECU restriction implemented by Toyota due to gearbox limitations. It was available in a few models sold only in Japan: the MR2 G and G-Limited, the Celica ST202 SS-II and SS-III and the Caldina.

The second version generation 4 3S-GE, the 'Grey Top BEAMS' 3S-GE, was an available engine option in the RAV4 and second-generation Caldina Active Sports GT in Japan. Even though the valve cover on this engine is black, it is referred to as the "Grey Top", taking its name from the grey intake plenum colouring. This naming is as such to differentiate it from the fifth-generation Dual-VVTi "Black Top" in the Altezza. Power output is 180 PS (132 kW; 178 hp) at 6,600 rpm in the RAV4 and 190 PS (140 kW; 187 hp) in the Caldina GT. The mechanical differences between the Red Top and Grey Top is the headers and the ECU. Wiring is identical.

Casting provisions exist in the heads for Exhaust VVT solenoid, and RWD water gallery is open, behind the alternator mount. Rear oil drain at the back of the head is in a different position.

Gen 4 also runs a manual throttle body.

This engine was used in some TTE WRC Corollas (modified for Turbo).

CDP

5,904 posts

207 months

Tuesday 11th February
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Bibbs said:
CDP said:
It's a more grown up car and feels significantly more expensive, which is probably because it was...
Using Celica parts, instead of cheaper Corolla parts like the mk1 and mk3.

I had 2, a rev1 UK car, and then a heavily modded rev2 import.

Loved it. But after having a serious heater matrix leak, 5th and reverse fall out the gearbox, and then constant overheating I got rid of it.
My N/A had a catalogue of expensive faults with engine, gear selection, suspension, brakes, steering. I still loved it.

I bet the person who bought it got a bargain because so much of the car was replaced...

I really prefer the Toyota to the MG but I'd rather stick with the reliability of a Rover product...