RE: Alpine A110S vs. Porsche 718 GT4 vs. Audi R8 RWS

RE: Alpine A110S vs. Porsche 718 GT4 vs. Audi R8 RWS

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Dr G

15,173 posts

242 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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DoubleD said:
Arsecati said:
£95k for a Cayman?????? I don't care how good it is - that price is INSANE!
Its £75k.

This one has a load of options fitted.
Given that Porsche sold everything they could make (and could have sold more) the price was clearly on point.

A modest Golf is 30k. A decent mid-size SUV is 50. That's just what stuff costs.

Lexington59

974 posts

65 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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Dr G said:
DoubleD said:
Arsecati said:
£95k for a Cayman?????? I don't care how good it is - that price is INSANE!
Its £75k.

This one has a load of options fitted.
Given that Porsche sold everything they could make (and could have sold more) the price was clearly on point.

A modest Golf is 30k. A decent mid-size SUV is 50. That's just what stuff costs.
Yes. £60k for a Renault is a bit much though ! eek

DoubleD

22,154 posts

108 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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Lexington59 said:
Yes. £60k for a Renault is a bit much though ! eek
You called the Alpine a Renault on another thread, all it did was make you look like you don't understand cars.

Now you are doing it again on this thread.

Tickle

4,919 posts

204 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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DoubleD said:
Lexington59 said:
Yes. £60k for a Renault is a bit much though ! eek
You called the Alpine a Renault on another thread, all it did was make you look like you don't understand cars.

Now you are doing it again on this thread.
I suppose we could reduce it to two Skoda's and a Dacia then?


Edited by Tickle on Saturday 8th February 10:10

Ray_Aber

481 posts

276 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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If you’re more bothered about the badge than the car, you probably have some serious self-esteem issues.

If anyone judged me for driving a “Renault”, I’d ignore them. Their views are irrelevant to me. I decide what I drive, not them.

The Alpine A110 is generally recognised to be a better drive than the (basic or S) 718 Cayman. To my eyes, it’s more attractive too.

Badge? Irrelevant. Car? Everything.

(I’d still love that R8 though. The engine....)

Lexington59

974 posts

65 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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DoubleD said:
Lexington59 said:
Yes. £60k for a Renault is a bit much though ! eek
You called the Alpine a Renault on another thread, all it did was make you look like you don't understand cars.

Now you are doing it again on this thread.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpine_(automobile)

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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A good test and a seriously enjoyable read.

Again, the weakness of the Alpine is highlighted as the gearbox. An auto may be fine for pootling to the shops, but when tackling these driving roads, for fun, then Renault really need to do one with a decent manual box.

The GT4 is already a legend - would love to see a test of one tested as close to list price as possible - ie, a stripper, nothing on it.

As for the R8, that's a supercar. I'm not surprised it's the best. Still amazed to think Audi build these.

Great article.

Trikster

823 posts

202 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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Phew, glad to finally see the Alpine not winning something as I thought I was going mad

Don’t get me wrong, great car and fab handling but didn’t get on with mine - the engine/gearbox combo just didn’t work for me - I know the guys who bought it off me though is loving it and giving it some proper mileage, but even he has tweaked the suspension etc

That said, I sold my (981) GT4 too and kept my 9 year old Spyder that it was meant to replace so what do I know...

Nightshade

77 posts

186 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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Amazing photography - who's the photographer? Couldn't see them mentioned

Tickle

4,919 posts

204 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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Nightshade said:
Amazing photography - who's the photographer? Couldn't see them mentioned
I think, came up on my feed this morning

https://instagram.com/simmaineyauto?igshid=1fvx09g...


Sim Mainey

7 posts

103 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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Nightshade said:
Amazing photography - who's the photographer? Couldn't see them mentioned
Thank you, that'll be me! I guess the photography byline got lost somewhere.

Miserablegit

4,021 posts

109 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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Helicopter123 said:
A good test and a seriously enjoyable read.

Again, the weakness of the Alpine is highlighted as the gearbox. An auto may be fine for pootling to the shops, but when tackling these driving roads, for fun, then Renault really need to do one with a decent manual box.

The GT4 is already a legend - would love to see a test of one tested as close to list price as possible - ie, a stripper, nothing on it.

Great article.
Ha. Don’t let the facts get in the way of a fanboy point..
”aided by tightly stacked ratios that expose the Porsche's needlessly long ones; the brakes rival the GT4's for feel and the steering does as well;”
Alpine manages without carbon brakes and without 20k of extras.
If you want a real track car get some KW coil overs fitted to an Alpine. There are some good videos of a KW equipped 110 vs a GT4 on that German circuit.

NGK210

2,926 posts

145 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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Good article, clever post’ work on the lovely pics.
Alpine, please.
I’m amazed how everyone turns a blind eye to the GT4’s absurd gearing. In effect, on a B-road it’s a car with a 2-speed gearbox jester

saxy

258 posts

124 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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Gosh, those R8 RWS are selling for a decent discount. And since it has the latest infotainment system, it should stand the test of time for a while. (As long as it has Apple CarPlay, I’ll be good). I’m definitely gonna buy one in the future

macky17

2,212 posts

189 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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Agree with earlier post: Evora conspicuous by its absence. That’s what I’d have - either a used 400 at £50k+ or a discounted 410 at £70kish. They are sublime.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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macky17 said:
Agree with earlier post: Evora conspicuous by its absence. That’s what I’d have - either a used 400 at £50k+ or a discounted 410 at £70kish. They are sublime.
Or an Exige. Would kill the Cayman for fun on road.

ghiblicup

605 posts

214 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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SidewaysSi said:
macky17 said:
Agree with earlier post: Evora conspicuous by its absence. That’s what I’d have - either a used 400 at £50k+ or a discounted 410 at £70kish. They are sublime.
Or an Exige. Would kill the Cayman for fun on road.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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Miserablegit said:
Helicopter123 said:
A good test and a seriously enjoyable read.

Again, the weakness of the Alpine is highlighted as the gearbox. An auto may be fine for pootling to the shops, but when tackling these driving roads, for fun, then Renault really need to do one with a decent manual box.

The GT4 is already a legend - would love to see a test of one tested as close to list price as possible - ie, a stripper, nothing on it.

Great article.
Ha. Don’t let the facts get in the way of a fanboy point..
”aided by tightly stacked ratios that expose the Porsche's needlessly long ones; the brakes rival the GT4's for feel and the steering does as well;”
Alpine manages without carbon brakes and without 20k of extras.
If you want a real track car get some KW coil overs fitted to an Alpine. There are some good videos of a KW equipped 110 vs a GT4 on that German circuit.
I like the Alpine, I just think it would be a better sports car with a proper gearbox.

john41901

713 posts

66 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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Helicopter123 said:
I like the Alpine, I just think it would be a better sports car with a proper gearbox.
Or any other engine than a wheezy little 1.8T...laugh

Porsche have utterly destroyed them now with their new GTS, which is currently manual only just to rub salt into the wound...

Like the R8 though, awesome engine.


HokumPokum

2,051 posts

205 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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don't see the fuss about audi rws. regular r8 has 15% drive MAX to the front. sure it is lighter without the front driveshaft but it's not like the regular version is an understeering 4X4 pig.

more a marketing effort imo.

I like the alpine. weight is everything