Car privately sold- buyer says car unroadworthy

Car privately sold- buyer says car unroadworthy

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shtu

3,454 posts

146 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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Quoted just to reinforce this, the right approach,

Muzzer79 said:
This man is most likely a scammer.

Ignore him

Don’t respond to texts, mails, phone calls, anything.

If he comes to your house, tell him to leave or you will phone the police (do so, if he refuses to leave)
do not do anything other than this.

duckwhistle

276 posts

151 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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Deception, Pure and simple. He's jacked it up on gravel with his cheepo amazon rubbish £20 jack and removed the brake caliper ,10 min job, Big deal , means nothing, The garbage car stand , ebay lamp (it's daylight) and the toffee G clamp are designed to impress. The tools are all too clean and shiny to be even a good DIY er . The guy is a prize W--ker. Tell him to pi$$ of or you will inform plod about him harassing you . Another good reason to shove cars in the nearest Auction rather than get involved with the chavscum who infest the net with this pathetic rubbish. Give him anything and he will pop the caliper back on ,bleed the line and stick it back on for sale at a nice little profit. Could be a stealth trader, pass his details to the taxman . Nice surprise waiting , He's done this before , ' No one's a clean tattie.' ( quote from a Compliance and Enforcement guy I know.)
tattie = potato.

StuTheGrouch

5,732 posts

162 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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vickiebb22 said:


Apologies for doing another thread for this sort of thing, wouldn’t let me view the previous ones hence the new thread
That picture shows nothing of significance. He's jacked the car up and removed a brake caliper.

That jack isn't something a normal DIYer has, plus the tools show he's used to working on cars (doing the basics). He is hoping that a serious-looking picture of a car in bits convinces you that the car is fked. It really isn't.

Ignore him. Under no circumstances should you give him any money.

strath44

1,358 posts

148 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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This is all total non-sense but that doesn't make it less stressful.

As previously mentioned ignore and avoid, if he makes any face to face contact (which he won't) get the police further involved.

Even if there was an issue (which is impossible to tell without seeing the car) and I don't doubt you were unaware of anything then a new caliper is £115 less £30 surcharge for the old one plus max 2 hours labour you are talking £200-£250 max and the discs look ok, so he's inventing things from the outset.

He's a liar, move on!

ps do us all a favour and report back either way as to what happens - even if its nothing!


Davel

8,982 posts

258 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Just an aside, but did anyone give you a value in writing after looking at it? If so keep it.

Otherwise, as everyone says, ignore him.

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

135 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Davel said:
Just an aside, but did anyone give you a value in writing after looking at it? If so keep it.

Otherwise, as everyone says, ignore him.
Op has been ingnoring us for about 3 weeks now, so I've no doubt that she has the powers to ignore the buyer as well.

Jamescrs

4,479 posts

65 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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The picture doesn't indicate anything other than he has partially stripped down the brakes but doesn't show any fault that I can see, I believe as others have said he recognises you know very little about cars (no offence intended) and he's trying it on.

eldar

21,740 posts

196 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Jamescrs said:
The picture doesn't indicate anything other than he has partially stripped down the brakes but doesn't show any fault that I can see, I believe as others have said he recognises you know very little about cars (no offence intended) and he's trying it on.
I suspect the OP has decided to ignore all the advice had has refunded the buyer, allowed them to keep the car and coven the £1750.00 compensation. Or the buyer has buried them under the patio.

vickiebb22

Original Poster:

8 posts

50 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Hi, apologies I have been waiting to see if he came back to me but nothing as yet and no court papers! So fingers crossed that’s the end of it! Appreciate the help smile

swagmeister

382 posts

92 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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You done everything correctly.
CAB confirmed this - job done tell him to do one or yes you will be happy to see him in court. You will never hear from him again.

Dunno what outcome you expect from posting on here though.

RSTurboPaul

10,361 posts

258 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Pericoloso

44,044 posts

163 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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swagmeister said:
Dunno what outcome you expect from posting on here though.
She asked and received helpful advice.....for a change.smile

EarlofDrift

4,650 posts

108 months

Sunday 15th March 2020
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Stick Legs said:
Total chancer. Ignore.

I had this with a chap last year.

"This will not go away, I know where you live and work..."

Guess what. It went away.

Fret not, he is trying it on.
I had this a few years ago when I sold a five year old computer tower I had lying around, so I sold it on for a few hundred. Got a text a few days later saying the Windows installed wasn't genuine (it was). I said it was and that she didn't know what she was talking about.

Then she starts some bat st crazy stuff saying she knows were I live and where I work and who my family and friends are. She said she took the computer to a repair shop and they had found 'photos' and she would send them to my contact list unless I gave her £100 and she got to keep to tower.

I called her bluff because I had removed the original hard drive and replaced it with a brand new one, then installed Windows.

Some absolutely nutters about and some vulnerable people who would entertain her nonsense.

I work with computers everyday and keep a lot programmes to train businesses to deal with malware and ransomware, to the average person it would look like your computer had been infected. I was thinking of sending her one just to wind her up but in the end I just blocked her number.



M4cruiser

3,630 posts

150 months

Sunday 15th March 2020
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vickiebb22 said:
He has threatened me , the police have a report but won’t do anything unless he comes round etc.
The ad said:
The mileage
Mot date
Air con
Good condition ( as this is what I was told by Evans helshaw and we buy any car)

That was it. I gave him all documents and service book etc and didn’t say anything about mechanics of the car as I don’t know anything really so let him look it over and answers questions honestly. He said to me ‘ your brave doing this by yourself’ which after the fact is really weird.
Always best to stick to facts in an advert, not opinions like "good condition".
My adverts are detailed, but are "facts", like this example "Ford Fiesta 1.6 S 5dr 1999 , Mot until XXX, red, 95000 miles, two keys, service history including lots of documents, old MoTs from 2002, & service/repair invoices; serviced by main dealer up to 78,000 miles, including cambelt; many stamps in the service book. Black leather seats, satin red pearlescent paint, fully automatic transmission, radio/cassette, 2 airbags, power steering, electric front windows, electric & heated mirrors, sunroof with sliding blind, central locking, deadlocking, alloy wheels, driver's seat height adjuster, 60/40 split rear seats, boot light, lights-on warning buzzer, high-level brake light, new catalytic converter fitted last year (emissions test gave CO as 0.01%, HC as 8 ppm); "


survivalist

5,663 posts

190 months

Sunday 15th March 2020
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EarlofDrift said:
Stick Legs said:
Total chancer. Ignore.

I had this with a chap last year.

"This will not go away, I know where you live and work..."

Guess what. It went away.

Fret not, he is trying it on.
I had this a few years ago when I sold a five year old computer tower I had lying around, so I sold it on for a few hundred. Got a text a few days later saying the Windows installed wasn't genuine (it was). I said it was and that she didn't know what she was talking about.

Then she starts some bat st crazy stuff saying she knows were I live and where I work and who my family and friends are. She said she took the computer to a repair shop and they had found 'photos' and she would send them to my contact list unless I gave her £100 and she got to keep to tower.

I called her bluff because I had removed the original hard drive and replaced it with a brand new one, then installed Windows.

Some absolutely nutters about and some vulnerable people who would entertain her nonsense.

I work with computers everyday and keep a lot programmes to train businesses to deal with malware and ransomware, to the average person it would look like your computer had been infected. I was thinking of sending her one just to wind her up but in the end I just blocked her number.
I bought a used Sony Vaio laptop about 10 years ago. Arrived in immaculate condition and I assumed the previous owner had re-installed windows as there was no password. Nope, had just sent his laptop, complete with all his files, photos etc Outlook was still collecting his emails. Amazing that someone wouldn’t even password protect their laptop, never mind sending it off to a stranger in that state.

EarlofDrift

4,650 posts

108 months

Sunday 15th March 2020
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survivalist said:
EarlofDrift said:
Stick Legs said:
Total chancer. Ignore.

I had this with a chap last year.

"This will not go away, I know where you live and work..."

Guess what. It went away.

Fret not, he is trying it on.
I had this a few years ago when I sold a five year old computer tower I had lying around, so I sold it on for a few hundred. Got a text a few days later saying the Windows installed wasn't genuine (it was). I said it was and that she didn't know what she was talking about.

Then she starts some bat st crazy stuff saying she knows were I live and where I work and who my family and friends are. She said she took the computer to a repair shop and they had found 'photos' and she would send them to my contact list unless I gave her £100 and she got to keep to tower.

I called her bluff because I had removed the original hard drive and replaced it with a brand new one, then installed Windows.

Some absolutely nutters about and some vulnerable people who would entertain her nonsense.

I work with computers everyday and keep a lot programmes to train businesses to deal with malware and ransomware, to the average person it would look like your computer had been infected. I was thinking of sending her one just to wind her up but in the end I just blocked her number.
I bought a used Sony Vaio laptop about 10 years ago. Arrived in immaculate condition and I assumed the previous owner had re-installed windows as there was no password. Nope, had just sent his laptop, complete with all his files, photos etc Outlook was still collecting his emails. Amazing that someone wouldn’t even password protect their laptop, never mind sending it off to a stranger in that state.
Happens often, a lot of people don't take personal security seriously enough. I bought a big iMac off a fashion designer last year and she'd just dragged folders in the Trash Can but everything was still there. It had all her designs for her upcoming launch, all her personal photos with her husband and family, nothing intimate but all her holiday snaps, her meeting and plans, names and addresses of all her contacts including some famous folk and even a photo of her debit card. It would have been a cyber criminals dream.

MartinCostin

2 posts

81 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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Tell him to get lost, sold as seen....👍

ChrisNic

592 posts

146 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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MartinCostin said:
Tell him to get lost, sold as seen....??
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Shazamus

1 posts

46 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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Bro
Tell him to do 1
Legally he has no leg to stand on
Morally sounds like a right idiot
Generally this sounds like he is trying it on.
Garage reports can be made by friends as its private companys that make em hense a friend with a garage would do that
Wait for the court papers
No call Will entertain this type of case it's a private sale and is not bound by any sales act in legislation hope it helps n gives you some peace

OddCat

2,526 posts

171 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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Just out of interest, how much more than WBAC will pay would you need to get as a private sale price to make the extra money worth the hassle of going through the whole private sale process (complete with haggling, tyre kicking chavs and risk of selling to a chancer) ?

For me on, say, a £10k car it would have to be at least 10% more. Maybe 15%.