Car privately sold- buyer says car unroadworthy

Car privately sold- buyer says car unroadworthy

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bluezedd

1,007 posts

81 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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Got to hate pricks who buy things private sale, but expect a warranty.

Tbh, while I do believe it's possible the car has a sticky caliper and you may not have noticed, he is definitely at it.

Block his number and ignore.

What's surprised me is that he has all the tools to work on cars, so he should have spotted this problem on purchase, or be willing to spend the £10 for a set of cheap pads, plus £20 for brake piston and seal kit to sort.

I've done similar to brakes on cars I've bought second hand.

He's definitely at it.

datum77

470 posts

120 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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I can only reiterate what others have said.

He has NO grounds whatsoever to ask for ANYTHING from you. In law he has NO comeback whatsoever.

He will not take you to court for the very simple reason that the law is totally on your side. In the same way that WBAC or Evans Halshaw cannot come back to you AFTER you have done the deal and demand money for something that you didn't tell them about. that's the chance THEY take.

Yet another brainless scammer,

AJB88

12,263 posts

170 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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I would hope its sorted now.... this was Feb.

Gad-Westy

14,521 posts

212 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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OddCat said:
Just out of interest, how much more than WBAC will pay would you need to get as a private sale price to make the extra money worth the hassle of going through the whole private sale process (complete with haggling, tyre kicking chavs and risk of selling to a chancer) ?

For me on, say, a £10k car it would have to be at least 10% more. Maybe 15%.
I'm at the point with private sales where I simply never want to do it again. I've actually not experienced any of the crap the OP (and many others) have had but the nuisance texters, the swap you for a quad bike brigade, the no-shows, the tyre kickers, the scammers... Eurgh, it's just not worth the hassle.

I more or less just consider trade in or WBAC price only when calculating depreciation.

Norrie1873

31 posts

134 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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It is very unlikely that in a court of Law the claimant will win, unless you are a car dealer, your are an automotive engineer, technician, mechanic or garage owner or trader. Therefore you sold the vehicle as seen and as a private seller there is not warranty, assurance or guarantee. You drove it without defect and had not intention to miss sell. He had an opportunity to view and drive, so notwithstanding the above he has no claim.

ashenfie

704 posts

45 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
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I think it basically it's for him to prove there is a fault. On the basis you have photos take the car apart and he is not a qualified mechanic, It would be for him to prove it was not his negligence when disassembling the car.

I would insist on a garage report and then with the court cost he would be in for £2000+

CRA1G

6,500 posts

194 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
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vickiebb22 said:
so he drove car , myself in passenger seat and his wife in the back.
So much for social distancing.......nonohehe

untakenname

4,953 posts

191 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
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The event happened before lockdown.

CRA1G

6,500 posts

194 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
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untakenname said:
The event happened before lockdown.
Good point....hehe

chris-govu8

8 posts

43 months

Saturday 1st August 2020
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I always put "as is where is" if I sell a cheap car, if the car is a little pricier then try to avoid being overly descriptive and include that no warranty is given or implied and that the buyer should assure themselves of the condition of the vehicle before removing.

littleredrooster

5,523 posts

195 months

Saturday 1st August 2020
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chris-govu8 said:
I always put "as is where is" if I sell a cheap car,
What on earth does that mean?? Is it English?

imperium

390 posts

83 months

Saturday 1st August 2020
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littleredrooster said:
chris-govu8 said:
I always put "as is where is" if I sell a cheap car,
What on earth does that mean?? Is it English?
Lol

Sidecar Man

581 posts

60 months

Sunday 2nd August 2020
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littleredrooster said:
What on earth does that mean?? Is it English?
, Sale of vehicles could be by auction or private treaty. In either situation, the sale could be on an “as is where is” basis.

When that term is used it implies the vehicle may not necessarily be new and therefore is a take it or leave it sale.

"As is" denotes that the seller is selling, and the buyer is buying an item in whatever condition it presently exists, and that the buyer is accepting the item "with all faults", whether or not immediately apparent.

alorotom

11,908 posts

186 months

Sunday 2nd August 2020
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Sidecar Man said:
littleredrooster said:
What on earth does that mean?? Is it English?
, Sale of vehicles could be by auction or private treaty. In either situation, the sale could be on an “as is where is” basis.

When that term is used it implies the vehicle may not necessarily be new and therefore is a take it or leave it sale.

"As is" denotes that the seller is selling, and the buyer is buying an item in whatever condition it presently exists, and that the buyer is accepting the item "with all faults", whether or not immediately apparent.
In the U.K. it should just be “as is” there is no need for the “where is” element since the former disclaims liability, the combination of the 2 is reasonably common in the Far East.

Sidecar Man

581 posts

60 months

Sunday 2nd August 2020
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alorotom said:
Sidecar Man said:
littleredrooster said:
What on earth does that mean?? Is it English?
, Sale of vehicles could be by auction or private treaty. In either situation, the sale could be on an “as is where is” basis.

When that term is used it implies the vehicle may not necessarily be new and therefore is a take it or leave it sale.

"As is" denotes that the seller is selling, and the buyer is buying an item in whatever condition it presently exists, and that the buyer is accepting the item "with all faults", whether or not immediately apparent.
In the U.K. it should just be “as is” there is no need for the “where is” element since the former disclaims liability, the combination of the 2 is reasonably common in the Far East.
I'm not getting into legal technicalities. Someone asked what "As is Where is" means.

Sammo123

2,103 posts

180 months

Sunday 2nd August 2020
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I agree with everyone else that it’s not your problem as it was a private sale, however that shape of Corsa does have a known fault where the ABS control module dies and stops the ABS pump from sending fluid to the N/S/F brake caliper. In normal everyday driving you’d likely not notice it but under slightly heavier braking the car will pull violently to one side. The only way to rectify this is to have the ABS control module rebuilt or replaced. The caliper generally doesn’t need to be replaced.

My garage is a Vauxhall approved repairer so we see at least three or four Corsas a year with this fault.

Still not your problem though! It’s his car, not yours.

jim barin

23 posts

49 months

Thursday 10th September 2020
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Its was a PRIVATE SALE - tell him to get stuffed.

eliot

11,364 posts

253 months

Thursday 10th September 2020
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jim barin said:
Its was a PRIVATE SALE - tell him to get stuffed.
op left the thread in february.

mph999

2,714 posts

219 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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"as he called the garage and they said will cost £800"

He did, really ... LOL

So a garage can quote on a fault they have never seen and only had described over the phone ...

The common faults for a car pulling to one side are either wheel alignment or a sticking calliper, neither of which are anywhere near £800.

All that said, he test drove, he made no mention of it pulling to one side. You gave ample chance for a test drive as long as he needed, but he stated he was happy, he hasn't got a leg to stand on.


anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 29th March 2022
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This is why you should always sell your car at a service station folks. Ok I’m joking. Please don’t do that.