Car privately sold- buyer says car unroadworthy
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Got to hate pricks who buy things private sale, but expect a warranty.
Tbh, while I do believe it's possible the car has a sticky caliper and you may not have noticed, he is definitely at it.
Block his number and ignore.
What's surprised me is that he has all the tools to work on cars, so he should have spotted this problem on purchase, or be willing to spend the £10 for a set of cheap pads, plus £20 for brake piston and seal kit to sort.
I've done similar to brakes on cars I've bought second hand.
He's definitely at it.
Tbh, while I do believe it's possible the car has a sticky caliper and you may not have noticed, he is definitely at it.
Block his number and ignore.
What's surprised me is that he has all the tools to work on cars, so he should have spotted this problem on purchase, or be willing to spend the £10 for a set of cheap pads, plus £20 for brake piston and seal kit to sort.
I've done similar to brakes on cars I've bought second hand.
He's definitely at it.
I can only reiterate what others have said.
He has NO grounds whatsoever to ask for ANYTHING from you. In law he has NO comeback whatsoever.
He will not take you to court for the very simple reason that the law is totally on your side. In the same way that WBAC or Evans Halshaw cannot come back to you AFTER you have done the deal and demand money for something that you didn't tell them about. that's the chance THEY take.
Yet another brainless scammer,
OddCat said:
Just out of interest, how much more than WBAC will pay would you need to get as a private sale price to make the extra money worth the hassle of going through the whole private sale process (complete with haggling, tyre kicking chavs and risk of selling to a chancer) ?
For me on, say, a £10k car it would have to be at least 10% more. Maybe 15%.
I'm at the point with private sales where I simply never want to do it again. I've actually not experienced any of the crap the OP (and many others) have had but the nuisance texters, the swap you for a quad bike brigade, the no-shows, the tyre kickers, the scammers... Eurgh, it's just not worth the hassle. For me on, say, a £10k car it would have to be at least 10% more. Maybe 15%.
I more or less just consider trade in or WBAC price only when calculating depreciation.
It is very unlikely that in a court of Law the claimant will win, unless you are a car dealer, your are an automotive engineer, technician, mechanic or garage owner or trader. Therefore you sold the vehicle as seen and as a private seller there is not warranty, assurance or guarantee. You drove it without defect and had not intention to miss sell. He had an opportunity to view and drive, so notwithstanding the above he has no claim.
I think it basically it's for him to prove there is a fault. On the basis you have photos take the car apart and he is not a qualified mechanic, It would be for him to prove it was not his negligence when disassembling the car.
I would insist on a garage report and then with the court cost he would be in for £2000+
I would insist on a garage report and then with the court cost he would be in for £2000+
littleredrooster said:
What on earth does that mean?? Is it English?
, Sale of vehicles could be by auction or private treaty. In either situation, the sale could be on an “as is where is” basis. When that term is used it implies the vehicle may not necessarily be new and therefore is a take it or leave it sale.
"As is" denotes that the seller is selling, and the buyer is buying an item in whatever condition it presently exists, and that the buyer is accepting the item "with all faults", whether or not immediately apparent.
Sidecar Man said:
littleredrooster said:
What on earth does that mean?? Is it English?
, Sale of vehicles could be by auction or private treaty. In either situation, the sale could be on an “as is where is” basis. When that term is used it implies the vehicle may not necessarily be new and therefore is a take it or leave it sale.
"As is" denotes that the seller is selling, and the buyer is buying an item in whatever condition it presently exists, and that the buyer is accepting the item "with all faults", whether or not immediately apparent.
alorotom said:
Sidecar Man said:
littleredrooster said:
What on earth does that mean?? Is it English?
, Sale of vehicles could be by auction or private treaty. In either situation, the sale could be on an “as is where is” basis. When that term is used it implies the vehicle may not necessarily be new and therefore is a take it or leave it sale.
"As is" denotes that the seller is selling, and the buyer is buying an item in whatever condition it presently exists, and that the buyer is accepting the item "with all faults", whether or not immediately apparent.
I agree with everyone else that it’s not your problem as it was a private sale, however that shape of Corsa does have a known fault where the ABS control module dies and stops the ABS pump from sending fluid to the N/S/F brake caliper. In normal everyday driving you’d likely not notice it but under slightly heavier braking the car will pull violently to one side. The only way to rectify this is to have the ABS control module rebuilt or replaced. The caliper generally doesn’t need to be replaced.
My garage is a Vauxhall approved repairer so we see at least three or four Corsas a year with this fault.
Still not your problem though! It’s his car, not yours.
My garage is a Vauxhall approved repairer so we see at least three or four Corsas a year with this fault.
Still not your problem though! It’s his car, not yours.
"as he called the garage and they said will cost £800"
He did, really ... LOL
So a garage can quote on a fault they have never seen and only had described over the phone ...
The common faults for a car pulling to one side are either wheel alignment or a sticking calliper, neither of which are anywhere near £800.
All that said, he test drove, he made no mention of it pulling to one side. You gave ample chance for a test drive as long as he needed, but he stated he was happy, he hasn't got a leg to stand on.
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