RE: 2020 Porsche Macan GTS | Driven

[Sport220]

drpep said:

Hats-off to them. Keeps the coffers full for development of the properly tasty stuff. As a fancy family wagon, you could do a lot worse. Front valence is a little visually challenging to these eyes though.

When you consider a Jaguar F-Type weighs in at something like 1750kg, this thing at 1835kg doesn't seem all that bad. Granted, CoG would be that much higher, but still.

Edited by drpep on Monday 10th February 23:58

1835 kg is the dry weight, kerb weight is 1985 kg or thereabouts

[gigglebug]

130R said:

gigglebug said:

GTEYE said:

I wonder how much it costs? Not £58k for sure. I’d guess the test car will be starting with an 8.

I specced one up, with all the bells and whistles, on the configurator that was nudging 90K so it wouldn’t surprise me.

You don't need to spend that much. That must be nearly every option! I was considering one and in the spec I wanted it was just under 68K

I think this is the best (smallish) SUV currently available and the GTS seems decent value to me

You wouldn’t have spec any options at all if you so desired, options rarely have anything to do with what you actually ‘need’, but the opportunity to spend 90K is there if you want to - and assuming folks are allowed to make different choices to yourself. I would naturally expect a press car to be pretty highly specified that is all, hence not being surprised if the car driven was 80K plus. It may of course be no where near in reality.

[cerb4.5lee]

I certainly wouldn't mind one of these as a family car.

The 2.9 V6 engine(minus the turbos) takes me back to my Sierra XR4x4's as well.

[thelostboy]

Vocht said:

Not that it seems to matter much nowadays, but what are these like off road? Do they have any ability at all?

Not really, because they have very much road biased tyres. I had my Macan Diesel slithering all over the place just getting out of a muddy overflow carpark at Brands.

I have a GTS on order so the review is good timing - I look forward to it even more now! I do have a 'free' off road course for the pleasure of ordering, so look forward to seeing what it'll do when you press all the right buttons.

[SidewaysSi]

re33 said:

SidewaysSi said:

What a cracking car. Porsche are masters - no matter what everyone else does, they always make something better.

Bravo.

Sounds like a great car but you know it's the same car mechanically as a Q5 right? It has more in common with a Superb than a 911. Not a bad thing.

I know. It shows what a crap job Audi engineers did..

[redroadster]

Just looks like a Kia Sportage to me .

[WCZ]

£58k isn't expensive for this kinda car imo

[Bam89]

£58k sounds great, but bear in mind that gives you the standard Porsche spec - ie F all!

I've been weighing up the Macan S vs GTS, by the time I spec up the S to what I would consider an average spec its around 57k already, and I wouldn't say any of it is excessive

Given my target deposit and monthlies, think I'll have to stick to the S

[nickfrog]

re33 said:

Sounds like a great car but you know it's the same car mechanically as a Q5 right? It has more in common with a Superb than a 911. Not a bad thing.

Looks like the equivalent Audi is the SQ5 but that's diesel only and £55k.

[vz-r_dave]

They really need to come up with a new category, if this is an SUV then so is every current hatch-back on the market today.

[HM-2]

gigglebug said:

GTEYE said:

I wonder how much it costs? Not £58k for sure. I’d guess the test car will be starting with an 8.

I specced one up, with all the bells and whistles, on the configurator that was nudging 90K so it wouldn’t surprise me.

This is my biggest issue with these- well, that and how well they hold their value

Throwing some options that should really have been standard, plus Mamba Green paint, sport chrono and air suspension into the configurator got me to £70k easily- and that was being cheap with leather/alcantara and not ticking any of the carbon or aluminium boxes.

Also, why offer those beautiful split-spoke wheels as standard...but only let you have them in black so you can't actually see them?
Madness.

[aeropilot]

thelostboy said:

Vocht said:

Not that it seems to matter much nowadays, but what are these like off road? Do they have any ability at all?

Not really, because they have very much road biased tyres.

The pre-facelift version at least had the option of choosing all-season tyres when new.........which did give a slight help in this regard.

However, with the 'new' facelift version, Porsche have chosen to fit BMW style staggered tyre sizes now, so there is now no all-season tyre option when new

[Pumpsmynads]

SQ5 with most of the items that Porsche charges extra for provided as standard from around £45k at DTD.
Diesel only now though as someone said but a compelling alternative.

[Charlie_1]

HM-2 said:

This is my biggest issue with these- well, that and how well they hold their value

Throwing some options that should really have been standard, plus Mamba Green paint, sport chrono and air suspension into the configurator got me to £70k easily- and that was being cheap with leather/alcantara and not ticking any of the carbon or aluminium boxes.

Also, why offer those beautiful split-spoke wheels as standard...but only let you have them in black so you can't actually see them?
Madness.

If i was to ask why should those options should be standard im guessing you will say they are standard on other brands , how's that relevant ?. Just lately a lot of posts seem to center around money not the car itself , Its not just Porsche (although they seem to fair the worst) it occurs on other brands too

Im not entirely sure it should read PistonHeads 'where pennies count'

[nickfrog]

Charlie_1 said:

Im not entirely sure it should read PistonHeads 'where pennies count'

It's really difficult to ignore price and value. I don't think we're talking about pennies in fairness.

[aeropilot]

nickfrog said:

re33 said:

Sounds like a great car but you know it's the same car mechanically as a Q5 right? It has more in common with a Superb than a 911. Not a bad thing.

Looks like the equivalent Audi is the SQ5 but that's diesel only and £55k.

£67k for the SQ5 with air-suspension........and I still bet that even with air, it rides like its got concrete for suspension, as that is what Audi and/or its buyers seem to want
Also, you're out of luck if you actually want a choice of colour other than monochrome, and even then its only a choice between 2 similar shades of dark blue

[CS Garth]

I looked at these a while back for my wife, ended up getting a GLC43 fully specced up for 49k.

Not as dynamically rewarding but like for like was 2/3rds of the price which I struggled to overlook

[HM-2]

Charlie_1 said:

If i was to ask why should those options should be standard im guessing you will say they are standard on other brands'

Not only are they standard on comparable models with other marques, they're standard on just about everything else on the market. I'm glad that Porsche haven't fallen into the trap of bundling everything into packs like other marques, but things like PDC should really be standard on a £60k car.

[Bam89]

CS Garth said:

I looked at these a while back for my wife, ended up getting a GLC43 fully specced up for 49k.

Not as dynamically rewarding but like for like was 2/3rds of the price which I struggled to overlook

That is a good deal. I'd really like a Macan S/GTS but its difficult not to look at the X3 M40i and GLC43 given the price difference

[gigglebug]

HM-2 said:

Also, why offer those beautiful split-spoke wheels as standard...but only let you have them in black so you can't actually see them?
Madness.

Does seem an oversight that having them painted in silver doesn’t show up as a no cost option under wheel accessories, it does on a lot of the other cars. To be fair if it’s really what you wanted then it’s only around £400 to have split rims professionally refurbished in a different colour so small change relative to the cost of the car itself.