RE: Audi RS6 Avant review | PH Video

RE: Audi RS6 Avant review | PH Video

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popeyewhite

11,254 posts

70 months

Baldchap said:
I've not seen that. The gist is the Bentley isn't crass then? I don't agree.

tomw2000

2,299 posts

145 months

To the grumpy “2 tonne, performance car, what’s the point” naysayers, I’d say “try one”.

Due to various circumstances I’ve found myself in a E63s for the last Year or so. And of course it’s a tad “ph powerfully built, company director” costly. But for all the “night club” interior and “what’s the Point” comments, when you mash your foot to the floor it’s (imo) every inch an petrolhead car.

Do a want a new RS6? No.
Am I glad they exist? Yes?

Next for me? Dunno. Maybe just keep the old defender. But boy, do I love the Sleeperness of those “vile” alpina jobbies smile

Court_S

1,917 posts

127 months

Yesterday (07:57)
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Has anyone else seen the CarWow drag race against the Tesla Model 3 Performance?

These really are sodding fast. I like estates and I like fast estates so I’m glad this exists even if I’m not sold on the OTT, cartoonish looks.

Dave Hedgehog

12,306 posts

154 months

Yesterday (08:12)
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Court_S said:
Has anyone else seen the CarWow drag race against the Tesla Model 3 Performance?

These really are sodding fast. I like estates and I like fast estates so I’m glad this exists even if I’m not sold on the OTT, cartoonish looks.
they have been sodding fast for a long time, gentle breath on the loud pedal at 70 to pass a car on a m-way and it will be showing 120 before you can blink lol

its also dead easy to spin all 4 wheels going around a corner in the wet in third biggrin

Court_S

1,917 posts

127 months

Yesterday (08:17)
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Dave Hedgehog said:
Court_S said:
Has anyone else seen the CarWow drag race against the Tesla Model 3 Performance?

These really are sodding fast. I like estates and I like fast estates so I’m glad this exists even if I’m not sold on the OTT, cartoonish looks.
they have been sodding fast for a long time, gentle breath on the loud pedal at 70 to pass a car on a m-way and it will be showing 120 before you can blink lol

its also dead easy to spin all 4 wheels going around a corner in the wet in third biggrin
True.

I’ve not driven a C7, but my uncle’s C6 was bloody impressive especially the way it pulled once over 100.

On paper the Model 3 is quicker to 60, but it looks like the C8 as some very healthy horses in that video. It’s one of the few ICE cars to beat the Model 3 which had become king of the drag races.

Chris der Kerl

5 posts

15 months

Yesterday (09:20)
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I absolutely get it, but for me, it's too large and consequently too heavy. So no, it's not for me. Would love to drive one once though .... wink

rxe

2,944 posts

53 months

Yesterday (09:39)
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Tim bo said:
Yeah, I've never got these either, the Audis in particular, or performance estates in general.

Doesn't matter how wide its wheel arches are, how many bhp exist under the bonnet, how aggressive its styling, an estate always looks to me like something your crusty old grandad uses to drive his crusty old dogs at 12 mph to the local park for a walk.
I get performance estates, like I get performance anything.

My problem is that the whole point of an estate is a workhorse. You put stuff, sometimes horrible stuff, in the back. I really don’t get spending 130K on a car, and then sticking 2 large German Shepherds in the back. I happen to like the unique “moulted dog fur boot liner”, but most people wouldn’t be ticking that option. If the car is so nice that you can’t put German Shepherds in the back, then what’s the point?

So, yeah, I’m grateful that people buy these things new, so that I can buy them in 10 years and carry my dogs about.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

24,050 posts

162 months

Yesterday (10:07)
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rxe said:
Tim bo said:
Yeah, I've never got these either, the Audis in particular, or performance estates in general.

Doesn't matter how wide its wheel arches are, how many bhp exist under the bonnet, how aggressive its styling, an estate always looks to me like something your crusty old grandad uses to drive his crusty old dogs at 12 mph to the local park for a walk.
I get performance estates, like I get performance anything.

My problem is that the whole point of an estate is a workhorse. You put stuff, sometimes horrible stuff, in the back. I really don’t get spending 130K on a car, and then sticking 2 large German Shepherds in the back. I happen to like the unique “moulted dog fur boot liner”, but most people wouldn’t be ticking that option. If the car is so nice that you can’t put German Shepherds in the back, then what’s the point?

So, yeah, I’m grateful that people buy these things new, so that I can buy them in 10 years and carry my dogs about.
Whilst not an RS6, a mate of mine had an RS4 Avant, absolutely fully specced. Always used to put his 2 muddy dogs in the back. You can get things called boot liners. Remarkable things smile

Baldchap

2,177 posts

42 months

Yesterday (10:40)
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Tim bo said:
I really don’t get spending 130K on a car, and then sticking 2 large German Shepherds in the back... If the car is so nice that you can’t put German Shepherds in the back, then what’s the point?
My dogbus is a <4000 mile old RS4. It was bought specifically for the dog and family duties that my Elise is incapable of. It's a tool for a job. If the RS6 was physically smaller I'd happily buy one and stick the dog in that. Chuck a load liner in and get the cleaning guy to do the boot once a month. Where's the problem?

Surely it's far crazier to buy an RS6 as a dogbus and not let the dog in. At that point you bought the wrong car.

MC Bodge

12,126 posts

125 months

Yesterday (11:14)
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Court_S said:
I’ve not driven a C7, but my uncle’s C6 was bloody impressive especially the way it pulled once over 100.
It is one of those things that might be great, but is risky in the Uk. From riding bikes, I know how easy it is to get carried away.

Court_S

1,917 posts

127 months

Yesterday (11:38)
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rxe said:
Tim bo said:
Yeah, I've never got these either, the Audis in particular, or performance estates in general.

Doesn't matter how wide its wheel arches are, how many bhp exist under the bonnet, how aggressive its styling, an estate always looks to me like something your crusty old grandad uses to drive his crusty old dogs at 12 mph to the local park for a walk.
I get performance estates, like I get performance anything.

My problem is that the whole point of an estate is a workhorse. You put stuff, sometimes horrible stuff, in the back. I really don’t get spending 130K on a car, and then sticking 2 large German Shepherds in the back. I happen to like the unique “moulted dog fur boot liner”, but most people wouldn’t be ticking that option. If the car is so nice that you can’t put German Shepherds in the back, then what’s the point?

So, yeah, I’m grateful that people buy these things new, so that I can buy them in 10 years and carry my dogs about.
I don’t know, some people don’t care.

I went out on my bike Wednesday night and a new Bentley Continental was parked next to me, the chap got beak at the same time, opened the passenger door and let his muddy dog hop onto the passenger seat.

Court_S

1,917 posts

127 months

Yesterday (11:40)
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MC Bodge said:
Court_S said:
I’ve not driven a C7, but my uncle’s C6 was bloody impressive especially the way it pulled once over 100.
It is one of those things that might be great, but is risky in the Uk. From riding bikes, I know how easy it is to get carried away.
Yeah, not my cleverest move, but it was a one off.

Terminator X

8,430 posts

154 months

Yesterday (11:45)
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Tim bo said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
Maybe people buy estate cars for their practicality rather than their looks?
Sure. Everyone buys their cars for a whole spectrum of different reasons.

Looks are high in the spectral order for me, which is why I wouldn't buy an estate as to my eyes they look like a grandad car. Other people have different aesthetic tastes and place higher import on other criterion for buying their cars; practicality being one of them. smile
Old Saab in the garage though fella wink

TX.

Blue62

4,157 posts

102 months

Yesterday (11:58)
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A wide set of opinions and I understand most, except for the idiotic ‘cock waving’ post, presumably from someone with issues when it comes to expensive cars. The only thing that would give him any sense of balance would be to put a chip on the other shoulder as well.

I’m now in my 50s and have been very fortunate to have owned some great cars. For many years I had weekend cars which progressively saw less use as my family grew up and my priorities changed. Eventually I started looking for a car that did everything on the basis that the financial pain would be reduced and today’s roads ain’t what they used to be. That’s how I come to be in an RS6 now, it doesn’t handle like my last GT3 and doesn’t attract attention in the way that my F430 did (which I now consider to be a good thing before pencil dick chimes in), but it does most things very well indeed and in Daytona grey with no badges it largely goes unnoticed.

I have considered a 992 and maybe an A6 estate or similar, but the batteries in the man maths calculator are running low these days and I’d rather blow the extra on travel. I will probably go M5 or RS6 again, something I wouldn’t have dreamt of doing 25 years ago but we all change, as much as we’d like to deny it.

popeyewhite

11,254 posts

70 months

Yesterday (12:10)
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Blue62 said:


I have considered a 992 and maybe an A6 estate or similar, but the batteries in the man maths calculator are running low these days and I’d rather blow the extra on travel. I will probably go M5 or RS6 again, something I wouldn’t have dreamt of doing 25 years ago but we all change, as much as we’d like to deny it.
I've found huge speed available on tap exists in direct proportion to comfort and the Range Rover ticks more 'everything almost as well' boxes. Same criteria as you set, but actually offers a relaxing ride. I used to keep an E63S for the odd blast, but ended up using it so infrequently... .

Blue62

4,157 posts

102 months

Yesterday (12:35)
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popeyewhite said:
I've found huge speed available on tap exists in direct proportion to comfort and the Range Rover ticks more 'everything almost as well' boxes. Same criteria as you set, but actually offers a relaxing ride. I used to keep an E63S for the odd blast, but ended up using it so infrequently... .
I had an RRS four years ago as my daily, when it was running it was a good everyday car and in those days we were living in the Peak District, so I had no issue justifying an SUV. Alas, it suffered a multitude of problems, mostly electrical and some of which were never really cured and it put me off the brand for life. It did ride well, but on a motorway the RS6 is surprisingly pliant and far better than my previous daily, an RS4. All that said, I think the pick of the sleeper barges is probably the Alpina B5 (without the livery), just difficult to locate and very little discount to offset the inevitable depreciation.

popeyewhite

11,254 posts

70 months

Yesterday (13:17)
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Blue62 said:
I had an RRS four years ago as my daily, when it was running it was a good everyday car and in those days we were living in the Peak District, so I had no issue justifying an SUV. Alas, it suffered a multitude of problems, mostly electrical and some of which were never really cured and it put me off the brand for life. It did ride well, but on a motorway the RS6 is surprisingly pliant and far better than my previous daily, an RS4. All that said, I think the pick of the sleeper barges is probably the Alpina B5 (without the livery), just difficult to locate and very little discount to offset the inevitable depreciation.
I've had three of JLR's products, none have cost me as much to own (although one came close) as my RS6 - hoses, rad, condenser, oil cooler etc etc. A RR Autobiography is a very different prospect to an RRS in terms of refinement, but I do understand some people have a problematic time with Range Rovers biggrin. Funnily enough the car I had most electrical gremlins with was an S8.... .

Tickle

3,506 posts

154 months

Yesterday (16:01)
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Baldchap said:
So subtle that you can't look at them or test drive them. Salesman tried to put me in a 340i estate when I enquired. I'm meant to spend £65k on 'trust in the brand'. The one they could potentially get their hands on for me to buy unseen was a foul green and looked like a Rover 75 estate. I'm amazed they ever sell any. rolleyes



It would be OK if you were in your 60s, I guess.

Edited by Baldchap on Friday 14th February 17:00
That's really nice!

TyrannosauRoss Lex

24,050 posts

162 months

Yesterday (16:11)
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Tickle said:
Baldchap said:
So subtle that you can't look at them or test drive them. Salesman tried to put me in a 340i estate when I enquired. I'm meant to spend £65k on 'trust in the brand'. The one they could potentially get their hands on for me to buy unseen was a foul green and looked like a Rover 75 estate. I'm amazed they ever sell any. rolleyes



It would be OK if you were in your 60s, I guess.

Edited by Baldchap on Friday 14th February 17:00
That's really nice!
I still don't understand how people think these are any more subtle than the M, RS or AMG versions....with their ALPINA decals on the different/more aggressive splitters, the decals along the length of the car, the (in my opinion) over-sized and over-fussy wheels and the 4 exhausts. They're nice enough, but more subtle than their equivalent BMW they are not.

gigglebug

1,492 posts

72 months

Yesterday (16:24)
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
I still don't understand how people think these are any more subtle than the M, RS or AMG versions....with their ALPINA decals on the different/more aggressive splitters, the decals along the length of the car, the (in my opinion) over-sized and over-fussy wheels and the 4 exhausts. They're nice enough, but more subtle than their equivalent BMW they are not.
You do realise that you don't have to have any of the decals don't you? This may well not be a shrinking violet but it is no where near as cartoonish as the Audi, which I don't mind to be fair but I'd always personally go for subtle aggression as oppose to in your face.

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