RE: Audi RS6 Avant review | PH Video

[Nik Gnashers]

FFS Pistonheads thread comments are just the same as youtube now.
Nobody is allowed to have an opinion anymore without being jumped on by the over-inflated ego posse.
I don't like this, because for £100k I'd rather spend £95k on a proper sports car, and £5k on a sheddy estate for the dogs/bikes/tipruns.
Just my opinion of course.

[m5wagon]

The video still suggests B roads in Snowdonia... the actual video is, er, a less relevant to UK drivers... was I the only one disappointed?
On more relevant topics, I’d quite like one of these. I’ve had two M5 estates now (3.8 and 5lt), and I think this might be the perfect replacement.

[ChocolateFrog]

Nik Gnashers said:

FFS Pistonheads thread comments are just the same as youtube now.
Nobody is allowed to have an opinion anymore without being jumped on by the over-inflated ego posse.
I don't like this, because for £100k I'd rather spend £95k on a proper sports car, and £5k on a sheddy estate for the dogs/bikes/tipruns.
Just my opinion of course.

Some people have lots of money but for whatever reason can only run one car, or one car per person. In that case a RS6 would be perfect.

[Shiv_P]

Mr-B said:

Max_Torque said:

Is it really £2k for the 'upgraded' headlining? I mean, who looks at or touches the headlining in their car? Anyone? I've owned my car for 8 years, i couldn't even tell you what colour the headlining is, let alone have actually interacted with it in any way in that time?

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Yes I noticed that. They take the pee with these prices. Audi not the only one, I think it was the new Jag F-Type, I think their headlining was a grand, bearing it mind it had a panoramic roof there actually can't be that much headlining that needs to go in, yet it's a grand! WTF is it made out of? Gold leaf?

Don't spec it then?

[TyrannosauRoss Lex]

ChocolateFrog said:

Nik Gnashers said:

FFS Pistonheads thread comments are just the same as youtube now.
Nobody is allowed to have an opinion anymore without being jumped on by the over-inflated ego posse.
I don't like this, because for £100k I'd rather spend £95k on a proper sports car, and £5k on a sheddy estate for the dogs/bikes/tipruns.
Just my opinion of course.

Some people have lots of money but for whatever reason can only run one car, or one car per person. In that case a RS6 would be perfect.

I know someone who has a car like this. They could afford more than 1 car. Has it never occurred to you that some people who can afford these cars want to drive home in something nice, and not some shed at the end of a long working day? They don't want to pop to the shops in some crappy car. They work hard, and want to enjoy something nice whenever they drive. Not that hard to understand, is it?

[Shiv_P]

Terminator X said:

Nubiann said:

Spec an E63s and it gets to almost the same price but it still looks like a hearse outside and a cheap disco inside. It would also get stomped by the RS6 in a cross country sprint; spec up the M5 its almost the same but no option of an estate!

Both the afore mentioned have a RWD mode which is nothing but a chav shopping centre carpark drift mode but no criticism that neither can be driven fast on public roads in "drift" mode.

So yes its expensive but not more or less so than its competitors but Audi seems to get a bashing for its options. If you criticize one criticize all.

What the hell did anyone expect from this car its an RS6 it meant to be aggressive and ferociously fast, that the C8 can still despatch continents with ease but now adds focus and ability on the twisty stuff makes it my choice, minus a few options it is comparatively good value.

There are obviously too many potting shed pipe smoking morgan hankerers here. Zzzzzzzzzzzzz

Edited by Nubiann on Thursday 13th February 17:33

No one pays £100k for the M5 though + it is also 250kg less in weight and arguably more powerful eg 659hp on the dyno etc. Unless you are hooked on the RS6 looks not sure why you'd pay so much more for a car that seems already beaten up by rivals.

TX.

No one pays list for RS6 either. The M5 is of course available with more discounts, it's an older car with a more yawn inspiring interior, sounds worse, no estate format etc etc

[Blue62]

Terminator X said:

Where as Carwow was no discount from all 5 dealers?

TX.

I was offered a launch car less 10% unregistered and if you trip over to RS246 you will see that others have done the same and better with online brokers. Somebody mentioned the Alpina B5, great car, little discount and heavy finance deals.

In the real world very few pay list or just under for this sort of tackle, especially given the depreciation. It’s a major factor for me in the buying process.

[Terminator X]

Shiv_P said:

No one pays list for RS6 either. The M5 is of course available with more discounts, it's an older car with a more yawn inspiring interior, sounds worse, no estate format etc etc

Sounds worse? Worse than what?

TX.

[spookly]

I've never quite understood the pricing for the really fast estates. A new A6 estate starts from £41k. The RS6 estate starts from £93k.
I get that it is much faster and has some more kit on it. But is the engine, suspension, wheels, bodykit etc really worth £52k??? More than the price of a whole A6?

And over 2 tons..... crazy.

[Kasperoff]

Let's have it right, it's a quite astonishing piece of engineering, as many cars are these days. The stats are becoming scarcely believable. 3.6s to sixty in a 2 tonne estate!?

But they are starting to become an answer to a question no-one seems to be asking. The performance simply isn't needed. 186mph FFS! I just can't understand why anyone would pay a massive premium to have that type of speed when they would very rarely (if ever) get to use it. It's all cock waving I suppose, which I kind of understand.

The price is subjective. I can't afford it, but many can. Yet even if I could, I don't think I could bring myself to spend that type of money on this type of car. Surely stick to the theme and get the value out of it being a comfy load lugger? Spend the big money on something a bit more exotic?

I'm driving to the Alps tomorrow in my cooking, last gen A6 estate, packed to the gills. 2 litre diesel 170bhp. Very comfortable and capable of well over 100mph (which I won't be doing).

[jon-yprpe]

The constant dilemma I struggle with driving in the UK is when would this have a purpose?

You can’t use the speed on motorways or most A A roads - bar very short blasts - and they’re too heavy and wide for B-roads, and frankly doing 100mph feels like 50mph in a very clinical and unexciting way.

I’m struggling with this - I sold my C63 after 10 months and bought the new diesel A6 because I just can’t get excited by uber fast ‘heavy’ cars now so I may as well be bored in a cheap fuel efficient car that looks nice. Sad, I’m really trying to think of what would excite me, but this isn’t it.

[ghost83]

130k for a glorified A6 estate

Or 89k start price, lol

I’d say it’s worth 60-70k but not 89 or 130k

[MC Bodge]

Monumentally fast and an estate car, but....

Really, what is the point?

It's a big, hefty car. Where can you use anything like the potential of it?

You need to be quite restrained nowadays in even a 150bhp car.

I saw an RS4? Estate in the work car park earlier.it looked quite menacing, but had the look of a car that had been modified with (expensive) plastic tat.

[PhilboSE]

Andy20vt said:

What more could you want from a family car

Maybe something that:
- seats 7 rather than 4
- something with decent towing capacity
- does 40mpg rather than 20mpg
- has 25% more carrying capacity
- isn't a target for violent theft

Take your pick. It's just a different set of compromises to choose from, making one car more suitable than another for a given situation.

[NGK210]

Why the fuss about price?
According to the Audi UK configurator: RWS, 10-pot brakes, 21in wheels, LSD, leather heated/vented sports seats, 4-zone climate, ally cabin trim, metallic paint, LED Laserlight headlamps, etc, etc - all are standard.
I just specced one in Navarra blue metallic (which somehow makes it look less 'in yer face'), standard air suspension - it's an estate car, so who wants the nose in the air when the rear is loaded? - with the Comfort and Sound Pack (aka the B&O sound system - £1,895), body-coloured door mirrors (gratis), and rear side airbags (£475).
ROTR price: £93,225.
Compared to a similarly specced Cayenne Turbo, 'my' RS6 is a bargain. And faster, and narrower, and less prone to 'toppling'

[TyrannosauRoss Lex]

spookly said:

I've never quite understood the pricing for the really fast estates. A new A6 estate starts from £41k. The RS6 estate starts from £93k.
I get that it is much faster and has some more kit on it. But is the engine, suspension, wheels, bodykit etc really worth £52k??? More than the price of a whole A6?

And over 2 tons..... crazy.

Because the RS6 is so far different from a normal A6 you need to remember they need to factor in development costs as well as the fact they're sold in smaller numbers.

When you consider the performance on tap, one could argue something like a 911 is ridiculously over-priced. A base 911 won't be cheaper than this, isn't really much faster in the real world and has 2 very tiny back seats and boot compared to this.

Horses for courses. I wouldn't buy one, but I don't think anyone who does is stupid for doing so.

[MC Bodge]

TyrannosauRoss Lex said:

When you consider the performance on tap, one could argue something like a 911 is ridiculously over-priced. A base 911 won't be cheaper than this, isn't really much faster in the real world and has 2 very tiny back seats and boot compared to this.

A fair point.

I would add that "in the real world" in the UK, a modern hot hatch would be just as fast, and unable to use its potential, 99.9% of the time.

The level of performance of cars like this is now enormous and impressive on paper, but is becoming increasingly academic. Ref the "I hate Driving" thread.

[popeyewhite]

TyrannosauRoss Lex said:

Because the RS6 is so far different from a normal A6 you need to remember they need to factor in development costs as well as the fact they're sold in smaller numbers.

When you consider the performance on tap, one could argue something like a 911 is ridiculously over-priced.

It is. A 911 is basically a go-cart with some rewarding driver/chassis/pedal interaction at most speeds. A very expensive go-cart.

[MercedesClassic]

Lovely wagon, think it looks better in the gold metallic or a rich blue. However I don't see what it offers over the previous gen which is probably around £50k now. Although one owner has commented it's an improvement.
Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't these the same underpinnings as the Continental, Panamera although they seem to be PDK equipped, better?
So how about the Panamera Turbo S Sport Tourismo? Big 4wd estate, same engine, PDK, full electric mode, looks cool? Used they are around £100k nice alternative.

I'll stick with my E class estate for now as I can't afford any of them. Unfortunately!
Happy weekend folks.

[MercedesClassic]

I forgot to add the link but something like this. Even has the upgraded carbon ceramics. Being a hybrid maybe more tax efficient?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...