RE: Porsche 718 GTS 4.0 | PH Review

RE: Porsche 718 GTS 4.0 | PH Review

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SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

233 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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flukey5 said:
SidewaysSi said:
av185 said:
Of course options make a huge difference on the residual value of mosts cars especially higher end stuff like Porsches.

With Porsche GTs options are crucial to value and saleability.

As ever there are a number of no brainer options which enhance the value of the car over and above the option cost.

Other options are a total waste and can often actually diminish the cars value.

Best advice depending on how long you intend keeping the car is always spec your Porsche for yourself but always have an eye on the market too.

Anyone who does otherwise is either a fool or likes depreciation.

Edited by av185 on Monday 17th February 12:09


Edited by av185 on Monday 17th February 12:11
Exactly. I had about £14k worth of options on my 981 GT4. Resale wasn't an issue.
I can't say I've owned a porsche before so perhaps it's different to every other car, but whenever I've taken my cars into a trade in I've always been told that options don't affect guaranteed future values nor any valuation they would give me.
Somewhat different in the Porsche world. I can't remember my full spec but went 918 seats, harnesses, cage, Sport Chrono etc i.e. all the track bits.

Didn't go PCCBs but some would want them..

I don't think a bare bones £65k 981 GT4 would have been that appealing on the used market.

CABC

5,529 posts

100 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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sounds like an epic engine and one that, quite rightly, needs to be worked rather than giving huge torque at 1800 revs.
the gearing is a travesty though, simply doesn't work for a fun car. of course it'll cover the ground quickly and effortlessly, but that's not always the point.

cerb4.5lee

30,185 posts

179 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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Court_S said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Everyone is happy. smile
Never! This is the internet! hehe
hehe

I was trying my best to be very positive for a change...and I turned a blind eye to the Porsche gear ratios and the expensive options! biggrin


Black S2K

1,462 posts

248 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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ghiblicup said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Its a thumbs up from me and I can certainly appreciate a car that has a NA engine/RWD and a manual gearbox/LSD. driving

Credit to Porsche for bringing back a NA engine when they are very much a dying breed of engine.

You have a nice choice now and if you want a modern(small turbo engine/DCT/no LSD) performance car you have the Alpine A110. Then you have this Cayman/Boxster that takes an older school approach(bigger NA engine/manual/LSD). Everyone is happy. smile
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PhantomPH

4,043 posts

224 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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Am I the only one who is waiting to order a PDK one when the books open? Now where is that 'hiding in a box' emoji....

russy01

4,693 posts

180 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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PhantomPH said:
Am I the only one who is waiting to order a PDK one when the books open? Now where is that 'hiding in a box' emoji....
Too right, love a manual in the right car. I.e an s2000 from 20yrs ago...

But these Modern Boxes are just so good nowadays... unfortunately I think a lot of people complain about them simply as they haven’t used a good one paired with a hot engine.

I.e you can’t compare an auto diesel mondeo to say a MDCT in a 500hp M4.

Give me a PDK porker over manual every day of the week.

dunc_sx

1,607 posts

196 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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Always get confused by the gearing too high people. 80+ mph in 2nd, yup and there are more gears after that thumbup

Unless you're planning on never breaking the speed limit, in which case a 180mph car is pointless for you - best get something a fair bit slower (100mph slower)?

A fast motorbike will do over 80 in 1st - Even more pointless than Cayman, totally useless.

Dunc.

Court_S

12,764 posts

176 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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cerb4.5lee said:
Court_S said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Everyone is happy. smile
Never! This is the internet! hehe
hehe

I was trying my best to be very positive for a change...and I turned a blind eye to the Porsche gear ratios and the expensive options! biggrin
hehe

I like it and would have one. It’s kind of an odd little car really because it’s almost in a class of its own. I’d rather a Cayman than a 911 these days.

But I’d also hang in for the PDK version like some of the other posters getmecoat

ZX10R NIN

27,490 posts

124 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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Let's be honest the only reason (but it's a handy by product) the flat6 has been reintroduced is because US sales tanked with the 4pot.

bcr5784

7,102 posts

144 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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dunc_sx said:
Always get confused by the gearing too high people. 80+ mph in 2nd, yup and there are more gears after that thumbup

Unless you're planning on never breaking the speed limit, in which case a 180mph car is pointless for you - best get something a fair bit slower (100mph slower)?

A fast motorbike will do over 80 in 1st - Even more pointless than Cayman, totally useless.

Dunc.
Absolutely true. Most Supersports and Superbikes are both too fast and too high geared to be sensible on the road. We used to have genuinely quick 250 or 350 two strokes and 400 4 strokes (eg Honda VFR 400RR) capable of 0-100mph in about 11 seconds but now any 600 is VASTLY quicker and Superbiikes are on a par with any Hypercar evern at vaguely insane road speeds,

ducnick

1,765 posts

242 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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The list price on this puts it squarely up against some genuinely fast NA machinery with manual boxes and proper engines. Not sure how the vw would fair against a gt350 or 1le at similar list price.

bcr5784

7,102 posts

144 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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ducnick said:
The list price on this puts it squarely up against some genuinely fast NA machinery with manual boxes and proper engines. Not sure how the vw would fair against a gt350 or 1le at similar list price.
Accepting that American muscle are far more sophisticated than they once were, I really can't see many agonising between a Mustang and a Cayman GTS 4.0

ZX10R NIN

27,490 posts

124 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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bcr5784 said:
Accepting that American muscle are far more sophisticated than they once were, I really can't see many agonising between a Mustang and a Cayman GTS 4.0
I'd say drive a GT350R before saying that because as a drivers steer they're a lot closer than you think.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

233 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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A GT350R in the UK is even more than a Cayman, even with most of the option boxes ticked.

https://www.clivesutton.co.uk/listings/ford-shelby...

And you need to live with LHD. But the Mustang does sound great and has been getting some cracking reviews.

Plate spinner

17,649 posts

199 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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ZX10R NIN said:
bcr5784 said:
Accepting that American muscle are far more sophisticated than they once were, I really can't see many agonising between a Mustang and a Cayman GTS 4.0
I'd say drive a GT350R before saying that because as a drivers steer they're a lot closer than you think.
Whilst I agree with, I’d still hazard a guess that the conquest sales across each other are still quite low.

cerb4.5lee

30,185 posts

179 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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Court_S said:
But I’d also hang in for the PDK version like some of the other posters getmecoat
Because I'm in a good mood...I will let you off! biggrin


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cib24

1,115 posts

152 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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SidewaysSi said:
A GT350R in the UK is even more than a Cayman, even with most of the option boxes ticked.

https://www.clivesutton.co.uk/listings/ford-shelby...

And you need to live with LHD. But the Mustang does sound great and has been getting some cracking reviews.
That dealer adds about 30% profit onto each car. You could import it yourself for 25-30% less every time.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

233 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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cib24 said:
SidewaysSi said:
A GT350R in the UK is even more than a Cayman, even with most of the option boxes ticked.

https://www.clivesutton.co.uk/listings/ford-shelby...

And you need to live with LHD. But the Mustang does sound great and has been getting some cracking reviews.
That dealer adds about 30% profit onto each car. You could import it yourself for 25-30% less every time.
True but that is even more of a ball ache than getting a GT car... wink

Electric

7 posts

56 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Had a 718 4 turbo which disappointed as couldn’t live with the low down coarseness and vibrations — then tried an Alpine 110 it was smooth and was a very good especially at going round corners but lacked a presence in the cabin and to my eyes it wasn’t that pretty- The 400 answers most of the questions but has to be a dual clutch for me , so nice not to have leg ache or the concentration needed to navigate in everyday traffic— Before I get criticised for that remark no modern race car has a clutch and gearbox so us boy racers have to be seen backing the latest trend—

av185

18,433 posts

126 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Racing drivers dont normally drive for pleasure.